Petition open for citizens to vote for EU Passports

Petition open for citizens to vote for EU Passports

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///ajd

Original Poster:

8,964 posts

205 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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Sign up to support in the link below.

http://ec.europa.eu/citizens-initiative/public/ini...

Subject matter:
Guaranteeing European citizens free movement by a Universal Instrument

Main objectives:
For the better functioning of a free market, in the interest of the Union and in order to comply with the duty of care towards all its citizens, we beg the Commission to delineate a method by which all Europeans of good standing may be granted a signal & permanent instrument of their status and of their right to free movement throughout the Union by way of a unified document of laissez-passer as permitted by Article (4) of Council Regulation 1417/2013, or by another method

Only 17,000 signatures so far, so some way to go.

Note - there is no guarantee this will provide a solution for UK citizens post brexit, but it could be a useful vehicle.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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I think the EU will eventually offer a level of EU citizenship to those living in a post Brexit Britain however it will come at a cost - some kind of EU wide NI-style tax system perhaps? Wonder how many people will still be interested then.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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The EU is not a country.

In order to issue a passport, you have to be recognised as a country.

Robertj21a

16,475 posts

104 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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///ajd said:
Sign up to support in the link below.

http://ec.europa.eu/citizens-initiative/public/ini...

Subject matter:
Guaranteeing European citizens free movement by a Universal Instrument

Main objectives:
For the better functioning of a free market, in the interest of the Union and in order to comply with the duty of care towards all its citizens, we beg the Commission to delineate a method by which all Europeans of good standing may be granted a signal & permanent instrument of their status and of their right to free movement throughout the Union by way of a unified document of laissez-passer as permitted by Article (4) of Council Regulation 1417/2013, or by another method

Only 17,000 signatures so far, so some way to go.

Note - there is no guarantee this will provide a solution for UK citizens post brexit, but it could be a useful vehicle.
Not surprising there's only 17,000 - that's probably about the total number of nutters out there who don't understand what is going on, but just sign anything regardless.

alock

4,224 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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///ajd said:
Guaranteeing European citizens free movement by a Universal Instrument.
Europe is not the EU. What exactly is being asked for and who will manage/administer it?

Sounds like more fuss from people who don't understand the differences between Europe and the EU.

Craigyp79

586 posts

182 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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jsf said:
The EU is not a country.

In order to issue a passport, you have to be recognised as a country.
Nope, wrong.

chow pan toon

12,356 posts

236 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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I knew being half Irish would come in useful eventually.

MikeyC

836 posts

226 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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on R4's More Or Less some months ago, there was some info regarding obtaining an EU passport
If you have Irish parents/Grandparents (born in either Ireland or Northern Ireland), you can apply for an Irish passport (EU) passport
They estimated that this could apply to approx 7m in UK


anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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MikeyC said:
on R4's More Or Less some months ago, there was some info regarding obtaining an EU passport
If you have Irish parents/Grandparents (born in either Ireland or Northern Ireland), you can apply for an Irish passport (EU) passport
They estimated that this could apply to approx 7m in UK
That's a passport issued by Ireland.

There is no such thing as an EU passport, all passports are issued by a country.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?

chow pan toon

12,356 posts

236 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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fblm said:
///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?
It seems fairly obvious that if there are any additional restrictions/requirements imposed after Brexit then an Irish passport is an easy way to avoid them.

JawKnee

1,140 posts

96 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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fblm said:
///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

92 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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JawKnee said:
fblm said:
///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
I'm not interested in that so I won't be signing.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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JawKnee said:
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
India isn't in the EU.

sidicks

25,218 posts

220 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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JawKnee said:
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
Fortunately those of us who have something to offer other countries won't need this in order to work abroad!!

///ajd

Original Poster:

8,964 posts

205 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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FN2TypeR said:
JawKnee said:
fblm said:
///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
I'm not interested in that so I won't be signing.
Its all too evident many brexiteers don't care about it at all.

Some do.

Its interesting to see how as well as not seeing the point themselves, many are very eager to deny that right to others.

chow pan toon

12,356 posts

236 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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sidicks said:
JawKnee said:
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
Fortunately those of us who have something to offer other countries won't need this in order to work abroad!!
Well as long as they can still work abroad its probably best to deny it to the plebs.

anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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///ajd said:
FN2TypeR said:
JawKnee said:
fblm said:
///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
I'm not interested in that so I won't be signing.
Its all too evident many brexiteers don't care about it at all.

Some do.

Its interesting to see how as well as not seeing the point themselves, many are very eager to deny that right to others.
It would be the EU who will be denying any non-EU citizen the right to work within the EU. It's not the UK who makes that decision.

Just as is the case now, where predominantly white Europeans have rights denied to predominantly non-white people from non-EU nations.

Where is your revolt against the racist policies of the EU?

Biker 1

7,690 posts

118 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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///ajd said:
Its all too evident many brexiteers don't care about it at all.

Some do.

Its interesting to see how as well as not seeing the point themselves, many are very eager to deny that right to others.
confused My missus is from a non-EU country, my car is from the far East, I don't particularly want to up sticks to some EU country as I find it quite pleasant here in the UK. Does anybody really think that the usual sunny holiday destinations in the EU, Spain, greek islands etc. will suddenly be closed to British tourists after Brexit? Weird, unworkable 'idea'.....

don'tbesilly

13,900 posts

162 months

Sunday 23rd April 2017
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///ajd said:
FN2TypeR said:
JawKnee said:
fblm said:
///ajd said:
...a solution for UK citizens post brexit...
A solution for what?
A solution to losing the automatic right to free movement, freedom to work and vote in the largest political union on the planet.
I'm not interested in that so I won't be signing.
Its interesting to see how as well as not seeing the point themselves, many are very eager to deny that right to others.
You mention 'many', can you put a number on it and the source of the number, or are you doing your usual twisting of what people write and the reality.

Perhaps you could also point out how the 'many' are trying to deny such a right, and how the 'many' could deny the right?

Personally I don't have a problem with it, although I have no desire to follow your lead.