MK5 GTI's, any good ?

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J4CKO

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41,558 posts

200 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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Think I fancy going back to a hot hatch form my CLS, something a bit smaller and maybe a little less thirsty so the Golf GTI seems the logical choice given my limited budget of six grand or so.

Anything to watch out for, I know the 2.0 engine had some issues with oil consumption but thinking thats more an Audi problem ?

The Edition 30 seems to be just about in budget, or for not much more.

My other option is a TT, always liked them, would be a 225 Coupe.

Any suggestions ?


Belle427

8,951 posts

233 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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I think they all burn a little oil to a certain degree, some more than others. I think most people change the oil to a 5w 40 instead of a 5w 30 to help with the problem.
I bought a 2006 model a few months back as id always fancied one, its a very capable car. I do find the suspension a bit harsh on our roads but i did move over from a soft highline passat!
Quite difficult to find an unmolested example but not impossible, i too liked the edition 30 but didnt think it was worth the premium over a standard Gti.
Its still a fine drivers car but does look a little dated these days.


justinio

1,152 posts

88 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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I've had mine (Mk5 GTi DSG) for a few weeks. So far I'm enjoying it. Pretty refined when you want it to be, but also good fun when the mood takes.

Things to look out for.

Front wings can rust, but can be repaired/replaced under dealer warranty (12 years)
If DSG, ensure regular services have been done
Cambelt etc.
Aircon compressors can fail
Cam follower in fuel pump is worth replacing (easy DIY and cheap)
Diverter valve if faulty can result in loss of boost (another easy DIY).

p4cks

6,909 posts

199 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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I've got a MK5 GTI, it's good.

Very well built and it does everything pretty well. Someone described them as a jack of all trades and master of none, which I think is very apt.

Mine is a leggy 137K example and its worn the miles very well, it's still a very solid thing.

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

159 months

Saturday 1st July 2017
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I asked a couple of local VAG specialists when considering one a while back, oil pumps appeared to be a issue, normally no warning and costly to repair. One has had one or two a month coming in recently, a quick google confirmed it wasnt all that uncommon so I moved on. I'm sure many have no issues but it was enough to put me off.

Shame since they appear to offer a decent bang to buck, look tidy and are nice inside.

pinseeker

144 posts

195 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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Had an ed30 for the last 3years and I absolutely love it. No plans to change, great reliability and only perishables have needed changing. I have a good spec with remap, it is very quick (Inc dsg) pulling hard to the redline and handles very well with it.

Negatives? Hmmmm......... Firm ride, laggy low down before full boost kicks in and er.....


manracer

1,544 posts

97 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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pinseeker said:
Had an ed30 for the last 3years and I absolutely love it. No plans to change, great reliability and only perishables have needed changing. I have a good spec with remap, it is very quick (Inc dsg) pulling hard to the redline and handles very well with it.

Negatives? Hmmmm......... Firm ride, laggy low down before full boost kicks in and er.....
Snap!
Ed30 Stage 1 + V Power = lots of fun!
I've updated the brakes and fitted PS3 tyres.

cheddar

4,637 posts

174 months

Sunday 2nd July 2017
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ED 30's a great all rounder has everything except soul

MissChief

7,109 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Also most Ed 30's are £8k+. Don't discount the Pirelli special editions either. Same engine as the Ed. 30.

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,558 posts

200 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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The Ed 30's do seem pricey, seems bizarre that they are so much and I dont seem to be able to raise much interest for my CLS at £6500 which cost twice as much when new, but I guess that is V8 barges for you.

Other option would be a TT, yes, I know, I know but I do have a thing for them.

The VAG stuff does hang onto value.

chrisb92

1,051 posts

124 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Hi

I am also on the hunt for a Mk5 GTi for around 6-7k. I want to get out the finance loop and get rid of my a3.

Is the manual or DSG likely to be more reliable? I currently drive a DSG a3 and previously had a mk6 GTi in manual and for the Gti would prefer another manual I think.

Hub

6,434 posts

198 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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I was always topping up the oil on mine! Quite annoying.

Manual is probably a more sensible option at the age these cars are now.

Aircon is flaky, and not just due to the compressor, though that is the most expensive failure.

Interiors aren't that hard wearing - soft touch plastics peel off, bolsters wear, digits dash display fades etc

Sensors go - coolant level sensor went on mine and needs a new expansion tank.

Thermostat gets weak with age and is quite a big expensive job to replace - check if the temp gauge gets to centre of the dial and stays there.

Cambelt every 4 years/60k

The larger monza alloys aren't worth seeking out particularly in my view.


chrisb92

1,051 posts

124 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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Would you say these are likely to be more reliable/cheaper to run than any other £7k hot hatch?!

There's loads on Auto trader with over 100k miles. I'd be looking for around 40-60k on the clock.

m3lover74

5 posts

84 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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I have a GTI Pirelli DSG (58k miles). I have owned it for about 2 months now and love it. It is running at about 300 bhp and is quite brutal when the turbo kicks in, especially when in auto.

My E46 M3 would struggle to keep up, mid range. If getting a MKV i would get either the Pirelli or ED30 as VW uprated a number of items making the engines more robust, including a larger turbo, which helped to increase the power unto around 225bhp in standard form.

The DSG box has been a dream and have had no reliability issues. One thing I have been made aware of, is to change the cam follower every 5k or so as the engine has been modified. Unmolested cars don't need to have them changed so frequently, apparently.

After driving the M3 for so long, my biggest criticism was that the Golf seemed a bit skittish from a standing start and also seemed light on the steering. Once I got used to it, I found that the car is actually well balanced for a FWD and feels assured going into corners.


p4cks

6,909 posts

199 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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chrisb92 said:
Would you say these are likely to be more reliable/cheaper to run than any other £7k hot hatch?!

There's loads on Auto trader with over 100k miles. I'd be looking for around 40-60k on the clock.
Mine's got 137K miles on it (bought it for £2,850 @ 132K miles) and it's not needed anything other than a coil pack which was actually a recall anyway so I needn't have done it.

the-photographer

3,486 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd July 2017
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1.Buy on condition
2. Consider:

a. TT
b Seat Leon
c Skoda VRS
d Audi A3 2.0T (pretty rare)

bigvanfan

378 posts

132 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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If you do get one don't mess with the suspension, uprated struts , poly bushes etc just ruin it imo, vw got the suspension spot on on the 5gti, so chuckable if you push it harder than you think is possible.
Only upgrade worth doing is an insert for the dog bone at the back of the engine , it transforms the gearchange,
Mine did use a bit of oil but was still going strong at 180k and try and find one with the recaro bucket seats they are brilliant

Faisal_uk

51 posts

100 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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Definitely also consider the Skoda VRS if you don't mind the badge.
Might be selling mine in a couple of months! Probably about half the price of the Golf and still easily modded with it being the same engine.

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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I just bought a Mk5 GTI last week.

5 door, DSG, leather.

It's been great so far, took it for a good test on Saturday, comfortable and easy to drive in traffic like any other Golf but decent turn of pace and reasonable grip and handling when on more interesting roads.


chrisb92

1,051 posts

124 months

Tuesday 4th July 2017
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I'm looking for <60k on the clock. Am I being too cautious with mileage? Also looking for a pretty solid service history and no modifications