Just got a new S4 b9 want to to remap?

Just got a new S4 b9 want to to remap?

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Alsouthon1234

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2 posts

88 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Ive just got my self a new b9 s4 really happy with the car, however thinking of he getting it remapped so it pushes over 400hp. Is this safe to do for the car? There are so many people do this can an anyone recommend or has done it already?

Cupramax

10,469 posts

251 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Hold on for a few weeks and Audi might remap it for you for free rofl

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/audi-s...

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

169 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Good luck with your warranty if you do.

fatboy b

9,492 posts

215 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Why not just buy an RS4?

TimmyMallett

2,811 posts

111 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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fatboy b said:
Why not just buy an RS4?
For the same reason that you put an extension on a smaller house because you can't afford a huge house.

Not terribly difficult to work out is it?

A remap is probably a twentieth of the price delta between the models.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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A mapped S4 is actually faster than the RS4


That said clearly it never will be an RS4 but then again a bit of a Q car.

hoegaardenruls

1,218 posts

131 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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You could probably do a lot worse than have a chat with MRC Tuning..

catso

14,771 posts

266 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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TimmyMallett said:
fatboy b said:
Why not just buy an RS4?
For the same reason that you put an extension on a smaller house because you can't afford a huge house.

Not terribly difficult to work out is it?

A remap is probably a twentieth of the price delta between the models.
Indeed, under a grand gets 400hp+ spend a bit more and 500hp is available. I don't know how much more an RS4 costs than an S4 but I'm guessing you'd need £20k?

MRC or Revo seem to get good results.

AudiSport

1,458 posts

215 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Seems a sensible request and solution to me.
Enjoy: https://youtu.be/2KfMY96v_Gc

Alsouthon1234

Original Poster:

2 posts

88 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Thanks guys appreciate your feedback, dealing with one of the best people, is there any significant risks to the car?

marcosgt

11,011 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Alsouthon1234 said:
Thanks guys appreciate your feedback, dealing with one of the best people, is there any significant risks to the car?
If it's new, your warranty will probably be void if they detect the remap. Given the fluid state of S4/S5s, I'd hold off doing anything for a while in case a ECU reprogramme is in the works!

Any tuning puts increased load on the engine - A simple remap (by a reputable company) is probably not going to reduce the life dramatically, but look at some of the money people spend on regularly rebuilding Skyline GTR engines pumping out crazy power for an example of how you can over do it! smile

I suspect what you're asking for will be fine, provided you go with a reputable company who've been around a while and offer a warranty.

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catso

14,771 posts

266 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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marcosgt said:
Any tuning puts increased load on the engine - A simple remap (by a reputable company) is probably not going to reduce the life dramatically, but look at some of the money people spend on regularly rebuilding Skyline GTR engines pumping out crazy power for an example of how you can over do it! smile
I'm thinking a stage 1 map (as per the Chris Harris video) wouldn't stress the engine too much and it's not as if a road car is likely to be driven at 10/10ths all the time anyway.

Going the whole 500hp+ (checkout MRC's video) maybe a different story? Especially on a B8 with the s-tronic box? (is it the same gearbox as an RS4?) but I understand the B9 has a stronger autobox?

I'm certainly tempted with my B8, although I don't really want to be tied to having to use 98+ octane fuel all the time which is one reason the Revo 'SPS' system looks attractive as it can switch between maps for 95, 98, race fuel and back to standard.

I'd be wary with a new car regarding the warranty. I've still got a few months warranty left on mine so it's not such an issue, although I would have some concerns over any potential 'goodwill' in the event of a gearbox failure that may or may not be caused by a remap but a reason that Audi might decline?

As an example, I had the camchain tensioner failure on my old A3, 3.2 and although it happened out of warranty, Audi covered most of the cost as a goodwill gesture - I bought it new and had it serviced by a main dealer and it was unmodified...

IJB1959

2,139 posts

85 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Alsouthon1234 said:
Ive just got my self a new b9 s4 really happy with the car, however thinking of he getting it remapped so it pushes over 400hp. Is this safe to do for the car? There are so many people do this can an anyone recommend or has done it already?
A remap is fine and a better option if you are out of warranty, but on a new B9 S4 definitely not as it will be voided. You really would not want to risk it if anything went majorly wrong with the car and needed a warranty repair as a physical ECU remap is detectable. Also it will flag up on any service done.
I have a B9 S5 and purchased a TDI Tuning box for this very reason. It is very easily removable and undetectable. The car produces 408bhp & 565nm torque on setting seven, and believe me it goes like a rocket (0-60 in 3.8-3.9 seconds). Have done 3k miles with it installed and no issues at all. Checked the ECU with it unplugged using VCDS and nothing shows (no flags) whatsoever.
The unit is reprogrammable for any other SENT system vehicle and you just need to change the harness. Also TDI will ‘tweak it’ to your liking. It isn’t cheap though at around £700.00.
There are other tuning boxes out there to choose from with varying quoted performance figures and prices, but I can only report on the one I have installed.
Also, in either case you MUST inform your insurance company!


Gio G

2,945 posts

208 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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I believe that b9 remaps have not been developed yet. However I imagine it will be pretty impressive when they do come out..As mentioned MRC are experts..

I bet there are plenty of remapped cars out there still in warranty, with relatively few failure rates or issues. OP, I would wait to see if there is a recall on the engine SW first.

Out of interest, why the remap, you looking for more torque, better response?

G

IJB1959

2,139 posts

85 months

Friday 21st July 2017
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Gio G said:
I believe that b9 remaps have not been developed yet. However I imagine it will be pretty impressive when they do come out..As mentioned MRC are experts..

I bet there are plenty of remapped cars out there still in warranty, with relatively few failure rates or issues. OP, I would wait to see if there is a recall on the engine SW first.

Out of interest, why the remap, you looking for more torque, better response?

G
Here is an S4 B9 ECU re-map company should you want to risk it. Not much improvement over a tuning box as yet though.
http://shop.amdtuning.com/audi-a4-b9-2015-s4-3-0-t...


NabS5

2 posts

79 months

Tuesday 1st August 2017
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Alsouthon1234 said:
Ive just got my self a new b9 s4 really happy with the car, however thinking of he getting it remapped so it pushes over 400hp. Is this safe to do for the car? There are so many people do this can an anyone recommend or has done it already?
I have been looking at Remaps for a good 6 months. It is best to go with an MTM Cantronic Box. its a plug and play and won't affect warranty. it costs a lot more than a normal remap but well worth it.

ManicMunky

525 posts

119 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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APR have a sale on at the moment

Glasgowrob

3,232 posts

120 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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had one of my cars albeit not a vw group car mapped at 3 days old,

now on 95k with a few warranty jobs under her belt with no issues.

again reputable company decent map and understand there is a definite albeit small risk of being financially out of pocket if you do run into problems and you'll be fine

JonChalk

6,469 posts

109 months

Wednesday 2nd August 2017
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Abt have a remap for ~425hp, but suspect it is very pricey.

Nothing on Revo website yet; listed as in development.

Nothing on APR.

Custom from the likes of MRC, or other far less reputable stuff, would seem to be only options right now.

Been keeping eye on market for my B9 S5.

Panclan

879 posts

237 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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Celtic Tuning have one. 333 - 400bhp https://www.celtictuning.co.uk/services/performanc...

With a stage 1 map, they took my BMW 520D from 177 to 254.