Leon LED headlights wont self level in the cold?

Leon LED headlights wont self level in the cold?

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Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

130 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I have a mk3 leon with the LED headlights.

I’ve noticed recently that when it’s cold ( under about 5 degrees) that the drivers side headlight does the start up routine but then drops to its lowest level, so projects hardly any light onto the road.

If you turn the lights on and off A few times it works fine, it will also level fine on a cold day if the engine is warm.

At all other times when it’s warmer than about 5 degrees the headlight levels fine?

All the other features work fine and I get no warning issues.

Any ideas?

Drive Blind

5,093 posts

177 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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if its still under warranty you could try the dealer - however my experience of them is they are hopeless. It being an intermittent issue I'd expect them to try and wriggle out of it.

I've got a Leon with said headlights and mine have done it once or twice in the past year. A switch off and back on allowing them to re level fixed it for me.

I did a bit of googling and at this time it's a full headlight replacement to fix. The leveling motor is not currently available as a separate part.

Sixpackpert

4,557 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Have exactly the same issue on my Skoda Superb.

Haven't bothered with the dealership yet as it could be with them all day and never do it!

I usually have to turn off the engine and restart it, then it seems to work okay.

Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Thanks guys, the car is 3 years old now so not under warrantee, its good to know that it’s a widespread issue not just my car

Must be a rubbish sensor or something!

Rtype

366 posts

105 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Hi Nick,

I understand this to be a small fault with the levelling motor. You can rectify if the fault gets more terminal for approx £120 per motor. No need to buy new headlights. Stumbled across this issue when trying to resolve mine!

Chris

Nickbrapp

Original Poster:

5,277 posts

130 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Cheers Chris, thought it would be a motor! Will look into that if it goes wrong when it’s warm. Not happened today funny enough!

budgie smuggler

5,376 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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IGxToxicology said:
Sorry I just came across this thread. I have a 2015 Cupra which only has 9000 miles on the clock. About 6 months ago my front o/s led unit wouldn’t self level correctly. In that it would lower and not raise back up to the correct height.

Took it back to my local seat dealer who hadn’t come across this before.

The vehicle had a new running program loaded for the lights. No fix.

They replaced the light Motor. No fix.

In the end Seat uk watched the videos of the fault. Spoke to their technical team. As the car is still in warranty. They fitted two brand new units free of charge saving me around two grand.

If the led light doesn’t self level. No program will fix it, nor will replacing the motor. The whole unit needs replacing. I was without my car for nearly 3 weeks in total. But they got there in the end and since then sorted.

But I must say, my local dealer are pretty epic!!!!
Good result for you, but two grand for a pair of headlights, wow! eek

barry246

2 posts

65 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Hi, new to the forum and found this thread as I was having the same issue. I realise this threads a bit old now but thought I’d ad my pennies worth. I’ve got a 2014 Leon FR ST and about 6 months ago had a warning come up on the dash for ‘auto headlight range error’ or something to that effect. I turned it off and on again and it stayed away for a few days. Anyway, over time it kept coming back until it reached the stage where it comes on everytime a start the car.

What I noticed was occasionally the drivers side LED headlight done the range sweep up and down but didn’t always finish in the right place. Also, when going to full beam the same headlight didn’t rise up slight like it should. I was convinced it wasn’t the motor as the sweep happens every time I start the car.

Took the car to an auto electrician and he narrowed it down to a sensor within the headlight itself. I was hoping it was the one on the rear axle but he assured me it wasn’t. He tried, unsuccessfully to open the headlight into to see if the sensor inside the headlight could be replaced but decided it wasn’t an option. (According to him there’s a sensor in each headlight and one on the rear axle).

He said the only real option was to replace the headlight unit entirely. So after saving my penny’s I’ve bought a genuine Valeo unit online in the Cyber Monday sales. £440 delivered.

I’ll let you all know how it goes when it arrives and is installed.

Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

130 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I had forgotten about this, but it was cold on Sunday and low and behold it’s hsppened again, It’s very odd that it only happens when it’s cold, once you drive a bit and the engines warm again you can turn the engine off and on again and they will self level fine.

Must be a batch fault or something as yours is a 2014 too

barry246

2 posts

65 months

Thursday 29th November 2018
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Yes mine self level fine when it’s warm but the error message comes up everytime and I get the little orange warning triangle on the dash.

Did you have the error message too?

Seems to be a more common issue than I thought.

r3plaY

1 posts

54 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Hi by any chance is this issue resolved by now? I have mk3 2014 leon fr with said headlamps the same issue here auto level starts up but drivers side fails to raise to correct position. Happened first time. Its cold today thats the reason for it from what i could dig around.
Engine off on doesnt solve it it fails again and again. No error on dash.

Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

130 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Have you driven the car for a while before you turn it off again? I would have to drive mine for about 10 mins till the engine became warm on the dash.

As others have said seems to be the motor, but I think that’s all inside the headlight, you might be able to get a headlamp from a damaged car to replace it but I doubt that will be cheap even 2nd hand

Mile.muncher

1 posts

51 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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I have this problem on the o/s in that it's slow to move and sometimes doesn't come up properly in the cold. Seems like the motor seizes in the headlight or something. My lights don't do the sweep if I turn off the lights and engine, I have to open the door then shut it again for it to perform a sweep after starting the engine.
Mines a 2017 FR with 18k miles on the clock

Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

130 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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Must be a well known issue then, I would take a video and show the dealer it and ask to replace the motor or headlight, you can guarantee if you don’t show them the video they won’t find a fault as it only happens in the cold and when the engine is cold which it wouldn’t be after going to a dealer.

Is it a facelift if it’s a 17 plate?

Funny enough my sister has a Ibiza with LED headlights and she gets a lot of condensation in the units too

AI1694

854 posts

94 months

Sunday 5th January 2020
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I think condensation is an issue with LED headlights as it doesn’t get hot enough inside the enclosure compared to xenon HID. Correct me if I’m wrong though.