cupra R shaking steering wheel

cupra R shaking steering wheel

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Hi all,

Have a 54 plate cupra r (bam) anything above 50mph when I put the brakes on the steering wheel starts to shake as soon as I lift off the peddle it stops.

Have done the following:
  • Have new brake discs and pads front and rear
  • Wheel balancing (wouldn't be anyway, as doesn't do it all the time only when braking above 50mph)
  • brake fluid checked and brakes bled.
  • tyre pressure???
New discs are not warped (have been checked using run out or whatever.. Can't remember the name of the machine)

Any ideas?

Really pissing me off to be honest.

Happy saturday all hehe

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Bump!

Any sunday foke have any ideas? frown

Trev450

6,320 posts

172 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Was the disc mating surface to the hub cleaned up and checked for run-out prior to fitting?

LuS1fer

41,130 posts

245 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Local Ford dealer tried everything to stop a similar issue on my 13 Fiesta ST.
New brakes, pads, a new wheel, at least 3 balances and alignments, all to little effect.

The solution was yet another pair of front discs as they said the new discs they had fitted had a manufacturing defect. No idea what and as it was all under their warranty, I have only their word. I assume you don't have loose tyre pressure sensors or ABS sensors.

Discombobulate

4,824 posts

186 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Discs still the most likely culprit despite “no run out”.
Next stage for me would be skimming with Pro cut https://skimmydiscs.co.uk

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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Hi all,


Yes disc surface was cleaned up prior to installing of new disc, you couldve eaten off it! smile

It's annoying because my discs were expensive 323mm brembos, I got them from a supplier in germany, check authenticity when they arrived so I'm going to struggle to get another set of discs without paying out, assumed brembo was a reputable brand frown

The car has been driven very calmy since all discs and pads fitted so they could bed in, including brake cycles!

I guess I could try having the brand new discs skimmed.

Annoyed.

bigvanfan

378 posts

132 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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So you had the wobble before the new discs?, if so I’d say a worn suspension joint or bush

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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bigvanfan said:
So you had the wobble before the new discs?, if so I’d say a worn suspension joint or bush
Yep, mistook it for 'warped' discs.

Do you think track rod ends? I've had a look at wishbones and they seem very sturdy, but that's when I was led under the car didn't think to look at track rod ends.

No knocking over bumps so ball joints are okay?

Tracking is also out, which I guess would relate to track rod ends?

Discombobulate

4,824 posts

186 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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BAM225 said:
Yep, mistook it for 'warped' discs.

Do you think track rod ends? I've had a look at wishbones and they seem very sturdy, but that's when I was led under the car didn't think to look at track rod ends.

No knocking over bumps so ball joints are okay?

Tracking is also out, which I guess would relate to track rod ends?
Sorry, missed the fact that the wobble preceded the new discs. Change TREs if knackered and cross your fingers.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 19th February 2018
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Discombobulate said:
Sorry, missed the fact that the wobble preceded the new discs. Change TREs if knackered and cross your fingers.
Ordered some, will install and have tracking done same time.

Heres to hoping beer


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Hi all,

Just to update this thread as I spent many hours trying to google my exact problem and couldn't find alot so hopefully this will help anyone in the future with the same problem.

Went for a spur of the moment wheel balancing, they pointed out one of my front wheels is slightly buckled, 40 grams later and all the shaking is gone!!

It's a different car for sure!!

Now just to get the wheel straightened out and it will be perfect.

Thanks all for your help

beer


aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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BAM225 said:
Hi all,

Just to update this thread as I spent many hours trying to google my exact problem and couldn't find alot so hopefully this will help anyone in the future with the same problem.

Went for a spur of the moment wheel balancing, they pointed out one of my front wheels is slightly buckled, 40 grams later and all the shaking is gone!!

It's a different car for sure!!

Now just to get the wheel straightened out and it will be perfect.

Thanks all for your help

beer
Glad it's sorted, very very good cars. My dad had one brand new, I'm looking for one now. Aged extremely well, high quality interior, alot of car for the money. Not my dads but it was exactly like this, hope you enjoy it.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
Glad it's sorted, very very good cars. My dad had one brand new, I'm looking for one now. Aged extremely well, high quality interior, alot of car for the money. Not my dads but it was exactly like this, hope you enjoy
Thanks! smile

If you are looking at a prospective one, check the brake discs have been changed recently as the 323mm brake discs are quite expensive for a hatchback (side note always go genuine brembo's!) Check cambelt and waterpump have been carried out, other than that they're like any 1.8T vag, only faster and with better brakes and suspension!

My dad also had a red leon albiet a FR 150bhp.

smile

Eta: I don't have any photos of mine yet, even I've owned it 3 months. Otherwise it would be a case of, any excuse to post hehe just moved on a edition 35 gti which was replaced by the cupra r.


aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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BAM225 said:
Thanks! smile

If you are looking at a prospective one, check the brake discs have been changed recently as the 323mm brake discs are quite expensive for a hatchback (side note always go genuine brembo's!) Check cambelt and waterpump have been carried out, other than that they're like any 1.8T vag, only faster and with better brakes and suspension!

My dad also had a red leon albiet a FR 150bhp.

smile

Eta: I don't have any photos of mine yet, even I've owned it 3 months. Otherwise it would be a case of, any excuse to post hehe just moved on a edition 35 gti which was replaced by the cupra r.
Thanks for the tips, the brakes were something I remember being especially good. We had what was at the time the new Cupra as a courtesy car in 2007ish while ours was being serviced, didn't feel too much quicker and apparently felt much softer. Was the 225 not just a FWD S3 that cost less and was quite a bit lighter? I know the S3 had some nicer materials in the interior and had the 4WD whether that's a plus or not is selective I guess. What's the steering like on one?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
Thanks for the tips, the brakes were something I remember being especially good. We had what was at the time the new Cupra as a courtesy car in 2007ish while ours was being serviced, didn't feel too much quicker and apparently felt much softer. Was the 225 not just a FWD S3 that cost less and was quite a bit lighter? I know the S3 had some nicer materials in the interior and had the 4WD whether that's a plus or not is selective I guess. What's the steering like on one?
The brakes are spot on! (Especially as I've just replaced all discs and pads when I didn't need too hehe )

Never driven a mk2 cupra, but have read that is was a flop compared with the mk1 R.

The audi has 'better' materials and Is Haldex, so when the front wheels slip it transfers power to the back so not 'true' 4WD in a sense.

The seats are nicer in the audi (IMO)

The steering is not the last word in handling but it heavy in a good way.

You drive a ST170? In the way of the ford when you fly into corners and you grip the steering and its dull but heavy, basically like that. Couldn't of chosen a better car for comparison actually biggrin

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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BAM225 said:
You drive a ST170? In the way of the ford when you fly into corners and you grip the steering and its dull but heavy, basically like that. Couldn't of chosen a better car for comparison actually biggrin
Funny you mention it, my dad owned the ST170 I own, he replaced it with the Leon which he liked much much more. If ti steers anything like an ST170 then I can see it being a real option to explore. Sorry for hijacking your thread btw biggrin

Discombobulate

4,824 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Odd.If it was just balance why would it come on with braking?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
Funny you mention it, my dad owned the ST170 I own, he replaced it with the Leon which he liked much much more. If ti steers anything like an ST170 then I can see it being a real option to explore. Sorry for hijacking your thread btw biggrin
If you're anything like your dad you will enjoy the cupra R smile no worries about the hijack, this is exactly what car forums were built for!


Discombobulate said:
Odd.If it was just balance why would it come on with braking?
Couldn't agree more, I had numerous people telling me (not on here) that it's almost impossible to be balancing or buckled wheel (or both!!) As it only happens when braking, hence the expensive brake change!

Still at least they're new and shiny now smile

Pennypants

1 posts

74 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Hi BAM225, sorry if I shouldn’t be posting this here but I’m unable to message/email you directly until I’ve been registered 24hrs - I think I’m in the process of buying your old GTi (!) and wanted to have a chat about it - Are you able to direct message me on here if possible please? smile
Thanks in advance,
Penny

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Pennypants said:
Hi BAM225, sorry if I shouldn’t be posting this here but I’m unable to message/email you directly until I’ve been registered 24hrs - I think I’m in the process of buying your old GTi (!) and wanted to have a chat about it - Are you able to direct message me on here if possible please? smile
Thanks in advance,
Penny
Hello, feel free to drop me a line:


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Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 22 February 07:23