Audi V10 plus - values, running costs, opinions!

[dank]

I have seen a very nice 2015 R8 V10 plus, and just wanted some info and opinions as to what people think would be a likely depreciation for the car over the next 2-3 years. For the same money i'd be getting a much older Lamborghini Gallardo, so the Audi is becoming more attractive, although i am thinking will it drop20-30k in 3 years, where as the Gallardo would perhaps stay at the same money or increase!?

Also, recently speaking to Audi Tech they said the v10's aren't cheap to fix, and a lot of jobs are engine out jobs, which is very very expensive. What are peoples thoughts, real world views on running the v10.

The sounds of the v10, especially with an after market exhaust is just incredible, and i am thinking the plus will be a far quicker car then the normal v10, which i didn't think was crazy fast!

any opinions welcomed,

thanks

[Pvapour]

Interested to, id imagine the same complexity in repairs for the lambo but there to be more of them due to age and to be more expensive which’d off set the lack of depreciation, maybe..

[PompeyReece]

Depreciation will be most on the Audi IMHO but you’ll get a younger car for your money.

However disagree on the “engine out” mantra - a failed AC compressor on a V8 is an engine out job but not on a V10. I’m not aware of any job that’s specific to an V10 R8 that needs the engine removed.

Also the Audi will be more reliable and less of a burden on your pocket.

It all depends what you want - reliable super car where you get more for your money with less attention (R8) or a true supercar with all the drama, costs and attention?

[Trev450]

Adding to what Reece has already said, labour costs will be higher for a Lamborghini unless using an independant, and although spares for the Audi are not cheap, they don't carry the same level of 'supercar tax' that the L cars do.

On the point of the Plus being a lot quicker than the base R8, a well-proven remap on the base model will give you similar power and for around £1200.

[Dr G]

PompeyReece said:

I’m not aware of any job that’s specific to an V10 R8 that needs the engine removed.

Ooooh oooooh ooooooh! Changing half of the wiring loom after a rat decided to eat it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFdZp3eefM

[dank]

I wasn't hugely impressed with the normal V10, have a 911 turbo which i'll be keeping alongside the R8, so need it to be quicker ideally!

Can you buy Audi warranty for older R8's and would people recommend an Audi inspection of any potential car purchase that's not sold through Audi?

[Trev450]

A pre-purchase inspection is vital imo and can easily pay for itself in the long run. You can quickly rack up £5k on consumables, let alone any other work that may be required. Audi warranties are available on vehicles up to 10 years old iirc. Alternatively, Warranty Direct, who I'm with incidently, offer very comprehensive cover and considerably cheaper.

[Trevor555]

Trev450 said:

Warranty Direct, who I'm with incidently, offer very comprehensive cover and considerably cheaper.

Have you had to claim for anything?

[Trev450]

Trevor555 said:

Trev450 said:

Warranty Direct, who I'm with incidently, offer very comprehensive cover and considerably cheaper.

Have you had to claim for anything?

Not yet, fortunately. Why is that?

[Trevor555]

Trev450 said:

Trevor555 said:

Trev450 said:

Warranty Direct, who I'm with incidently, offer very comprehensive cover and considerably cheaper.

Have you had to claim for anything?

Not yet, fortunately. Why is that?

They do try to get out of most claims.

[Easternlight]

Trev450 said:

Trevor555 said:

Trev450 said:

Warranty Direct, who I'm with incidently, offer very comprehensive cover and considerably cheaper.

Have you had to claim for anything?

Not yet, fortunately. Why is that?

Probably referring to this.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=17...

[Caddyshack]

Try a normal V10 that has had the throttle locks mapped out. They then make a lot more power. Audi had to tame them a little due to the Lambo pricing / speed comparison.

I went out in my friends V10 that had been done and was blown away by how well it went.

[RSbandit]

Had a 2014 V10+ which I owned for two yrs from mid 2016 to 2018, total deprec on car was quite reasonable paid 78k originally and dealer offered me 68k as part exchange this yr. Apart from some new tyres car didn't cost anything other than servicing during time I owned it. Awesome machines and prob one of the best engines ever made, they sound superb and stronic gearbox well suited to the car. V quick also and car got alot of positive comments and attention from the general public...would highly recommend owning one.

[dank]

RSbandit said:

Had a 2014 V10+ which I owned for two yrs from mid 2016 to 2018, total deprec on car was quite reasonable paid 78k originally and dealer offered me 68k as part exchange this yr. Apart from some new tyres car didn't cost anything other than servicing during time I owned it. Awesome machines and prob one of the best engines ever made, they sound superb and stronic gearbox well suited to the car. V quick also and car got alot of positive comments and attention from the general public...would highly recommend owning one.

I see that Audi main dealer have several V10+ with 12 month warranty and option to extend for 2 years after, that sounds like a safer place to pout 75k+ - just wondering what expected deprecation would be in say 3 years, maybe still get £60k or is that un realistic !?

also £5k of consumables, what exactly would that entail? My 911 Turbo doesn't cost that much per year, is the v10plus vastly more expensive to run?

[Trev450]

Trevor555 said:

Trev450 said:

Trevor555 said:

Trev450 said:

Warranty Direct, who I'm with incidently, offer very comprehensive cover and considerably cheaper.

Have you had to claim for anything?

Not yet, fortunately. Why is that?

They do try to get out of most claims.

Thanks for the heads-up. Hopefully I won't have to put it to the test.

[Trev450]

dank said:

also £5k of consumables, what exactly would that entail? My 911 Turbo doesn't cost that much per year, is the v10plus vastly more expensive to run?

Discs, pads, tyres and a major service will run close to that. Clearly this is not going to occur every year, but if a previous owner had been a little shabby with maintenance then this could come as an unwelcome surprise if a ppi had not been carried out

Edited by Trev450 on Saturday 22 December 19:11

[Nuttcase]

2015 was the gen1/ gen 2 switchover year. Are you looking at a gen2?

[ninepoint2]

Also, though the Audi Tech was telling you it's expensive to repair etc, It won't be anywhere near as expensive if you use a decent Indie to do any work. Main dealers, (especially Audi) are to be avoided for repairs/servicing IMHO

[dank]

there's a 2013 and a 2015 car i am looking at, so gen 1 and 2!

hopefully test driving the 2013 car today, so will report back with my feelings on it. It's not the perfect colour / spec but is lower price and main dealer, I do like Sepang blue, but Nardo grey looks so amazing!

[Nuttcase]

Your depreciation assumptions seems fair. There is the dealer buy/sell margin plus normal depreciation, I can see the gen 2 R8 depreciating to around 50% of the original sales price after 5 years.

There is not a huge difference in the second gen v10 vs plus, about 70hp on paper but less on a dyno. The Plus is lower geared from 3rd to 7th, and you would be cruising closer to 3,000 rpm on the motorway compared to 2000 rpm on the standard V10. You say you've tested the standard v10 and it didn't feel that quick, that surprises me! A turbo S may be marginally faster but the V10 should feel quick as long as you rev it out, you won't have the low down torque of the turbo. The R8 also has the tendency to select a higher gear as soon as it's mechanically possible, I've seen 7th gear at 33mph. This is in comfort mode or auto mode. You need to select dynamic mode or pull back the shifter into sport mode, the car should feel a lot more urgent.

I would recommend extending the audi warranty if you buy a gen2 at least for a year. Don't remap the car if it's under warranty, you will not be covered if you have a major drivetrain problem.

Auto express did a air strip test of the gen2 v10 vs Plus.

https://youtu.be/7u80vnfY3Xs