Audi V10 plus - values, running costs, opinions!
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OP, I am not sure whether this is for finance deals only, however many of the main dealers have special finance offers with 2 years warranty included.. I recently got a low rate on my S1 plus 2 years warranty for an end of month deal.. I do know they sometimes exclude RS and R8 from these offers, but worth a look..
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So the ceramic discs should last the lifetime of the car? Insanely expensive to replace as I have seen...
I have seen there can be issues with the Mag ride, but assume any issues would be covered by the warranty, i'd be looking to extend the warranty fr 3 years, to cover any issues with suspension, S tronic gearbox or the V10 itself...
So the ceramic discs should last the lifetime of the car? Insanely expensive to replace as I have seen...
I have seen there can be issues with the Mag ride, but assume any issues would be covered by the warranty, i'd be looking to extend the warranty fr 3 years, to cover any issues with suspension, S tronic gearbox or the V10 itself...
Yeah they are such good value for money huge performance capability, I still miss that top end V10 howl even tho I switched to an equally aurally pleasing V12 AM..the Gen 1 V10 plus didn't have mag ride not sure about the Gen 2. Ceramics were standard on all plus models great stopping power tracked mine a few times and no hint of fade ( wasn't driving balls out every lap of course), hope you find a nice example!
Very close to making my decision about the V10 plus / gen1 2013 - few things slightly holding me back, I was just wondering if the car was hugely overpriced, Parker’s suggests around £50k not the over £65k it’s priced at!
Also I wonder if it’s a good time to buy such a car with brexit looming, not sure how or if this would affect a car purchase / or owning such an expensive car.....
Seems like older R8’s loose around £4K per year - 2008 car priced at £40k
Also the car I am interested in doesn’t have the napa leather seats or the buckets, just quite decent but more normal seats, wondering if those are must have options?
Also I wonder if it’s a good time to buy such a car with brexit looming, not sure how or if this would affect a car purchase / or owning such an expensive car.....
Seems like older R8’s loose around £4K per year - 2008 car priced at £40k
Also the car I am interested in doesn’t have the napa leather seats or the buckets, just quite decent but more normal seats, wondering if those are must have options?
dank said:
Very close to making my decision about the V10 plus / gen1 2013 - few things slightly holding me back, I was just wondering if the car was hugely overpriced, Parker’s suggests around £50k not the over £65k it’s priced at!
Also I wonder if it’s a good time to buy such a car with brexit looming, not sure how or if this would affect a car purchase / or owning such an expensive car.....
Seems like older R8’s loose around £4K per year - 2008 car priced at £40k
Also the car I am interested in doesn’t have the napa leather seats or the buckets, just quite decent but more normal seats, wondering if those are must have options?
Price sounds about right. If you know anyone who can predict with 100% confidence what'll happen with Brexit and car market, give me their number! Also I wonder if it’s a good time to buy such a car with brexit looming, not sure how or if this would affect a car purchase / or owning such an expensive car.....
Seems like older R8’s loose around £4K per year - 2008 car priced at £40k
Also the car I am interested in doesn’t have the napa leather seats or the buckets, just quite decent but more normal seats, wondering if those are must have options?
Personally buckets don't bother me, leather a little more so but not that much. I'd say it wouldn't be in my top 5 list of options but might be a deal breaker if two cars are equal on other specs.
If I were you, I'd buy it and enjoy it - now is a good time to purchase and life is too short. You never know what's round the corner.
The Parkers price seems way under - traded my 38k mile mint 2013 V10 plus for £58k in October.
Very little to criticize on mine, nothing of any consequence went wrong in 22k miles and 2 years.
I bought mine for £75.5k so lost £17.5 in around 20 months
Running costs are very reasonable compared to my Gallardo for example though similar to your Turbo I would say.
Always made me laugh that Audi owners talk about an "R8 tax" on parts and servicing - they should see what Lamborghini charge for the very same thing.
But they do depreciate and older equivalent Gallardos don't, so in 3 years time the R8 will be worth considerably less in comparison. I found the Gallardo to be made every bit as well as the Audi, just as reliable, made so much more of that fabulous engine which is too mute in the R8 IMO, and undeniably got MUCH more attention. That's not for everyone though and the R8 will get more (positive) attention than any Porsche 911 variant.
R8 handles better though , better to drive
Very little to criticize on mine, nothing of any consequence went wrong in 22k miles and 2 years.
I bought mine for £75.5k so lost £17.5 in around 20 months
Running costs are very reasonable compared to my Gallardo for example though similar to your Turbo I would say.
Always made me laugh that Audi owners talk about an "R8 tax" on parts and servicing - they should see what Lamborghini charge for the very same thing.
But they do depreciate and older equivalent Gallardos don't, so in 3 years time the R8 will be worth considerably less in comparison. I found the Gallardo to be made every bit as well as the Audi, just as reliable, made so much more of that fabulous engine which is too mute in the R8 IMO, and undeniably got MUCH more attention. That's not for everyone though and the R8 will get more (positive) attention than any Porsche 911 variant.
R8 handles better though , better to drive
Ah also few other questions
Can gravel / rough loose surfaces potentially damage ceramics ?
And is an R8 ok to live outside and not garaged - are the batteries crap and need jumping if not used for a week or so ?
Can they be used in snow / ice / slippery cold conditions - I know they are AWD but isn’t there a 70/30 rear bias, but tail happy in slipper conditions ??
Can gravel / rough loose surfaces potentially damage ceramics ?
And is an R8 ok to live outside and not garaged - are the batteries crap and need jumping if not used for a week or so ?
Can they be used in snow / ice / slippery cold conditions - I know they are AWD but isn’t there a 70/30 rear bias, but tail happy in slipper conditions ??
a bit of a spanner in the works now...
Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them....[perhaps their checks on the car aren't as thorough as I would expect, Audisport.net and google have both left numerous reviews saying to avoid the dealer for servicing and general lack of any support, so i am wondering if there are any issues will i get the same problem....not making me feel confident
Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them....[perhaps their checks on the car aren't as thorough as I would expect, Audisport.net and google have both left numerous reviews saying to avoid the dealer for servicing and general lack of any support, so i am wondering if there are any issues will i get the same problem....not making me feel confident
dank said:
a bit of a spanner in the works now...
Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them....[perhaps their checks on the car aren't as thorough as I would expect, Audisport.net and google have both left numerous reviews saying to avoid the dealer for servicing and general lack of any support, so i am wondering if there are any issues will i get the same problem....not making me feel confident
If this car is really the one, then have an independent PPI done for a clear and thorough picture of the car's health. Service history is available from Audi, previous owner(s) and MOT history from the DVLA, and there are plenty of companies that will sell you a full background check. Finally, I assume the warranty is an Audi one and if so you should be able to take it to any Audi dealer if the need arises.Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them....[perhaps their checks on the car aren't as thorough as I would expect, Audisport.net and google have both left numerous reviews saying to avoid the dealer for servicing and general lack of any support, so i am wondering if there are any issues will i get the same problem....not making me feel confident
dank said:
so how would i go about getting a PPI, who would be suitable to do it, and how would it work with regards to the dealer, will they be ok with it? would i need a deposit on the car before they'd allow it, would it happen on the dealer premises???
thanks for your help!
My experience with the likes of AA inspections is varied, but on the whole poor.thanks for your help!
If the garage wont lend them a ramp they just use jacks on the ground to have a look underneath.
An Audi main dealer is unlikely to free up a ramp for them, and is very unlikely to allow anyone to jack up a £50,000 plus motor car.
It's all down t the individual who turns up, but I've had AA inspections point out trivial stuff like corrosion on the exhaust and miss more important stuff that was seen by my mechanic once the car's up in the air.
Some dealers wont allow an independent check.
If that's the case, take it for a check once you've picked it up.
Find a local specialist who has experience of R8's and pay them an hours labour to take a look.
That's what I'd do anyhow.
Back to the AA checks, the last straw for me was a lovely Audi A4 I was selling.
It was one of those cars, absolutely mint.
AA tester found some trivial corrosion, brake discs, exhaust etc... Made the customer think the whole car was rusty underneath.
I challenged the AA chap "do you not think this is the cleanest 8 year old A4 you've ever seen?"
His reply "yes, but we're not allowed to say anything positive"
Edited by Trevor555 on Saturday 5th January 10:38
dank said:
a bit of a spanner in the works now...
Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them...
Try not to let that sway you if the car looks ok.Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them...
Even the rubbish dealers can find good cars, they don't go out looking for rough cars only.
If it's an Audi main dealer then you'll be able to return the car if you find it has faults on once you've picked it up.
They have to refund your money, or put it right.
Edited by Trevor555 on Saturday 5th January 10:40
I wouldn’t worry about the dealer so much you are getting a warranty
However you need to make sure you depreciate over a few years and don’t do what I did last year
Bought a 2014 v10 plus blind. Picked it up from Audi and after a few months realised i couldn’t drive it with terrible back pain. I found the plus to stiff as it was on springs and the buckets had no adjustment. The loss on that was eye watering. So if you do go into it go in eyes open for a 3 year purchase to even out the initial depreciation
Incidentally later last year I bought a older v10 manual on mag ride with sports seats and not buckets and had zero issue at all.
I can also say if you are using as a daily the interior of a gen 1 is getting very very dated. Even a 2014 doesn’t have Bluetooth streaming for example.
I have just moved to a gen 2 2015 and it’s completly different to drive and really is two personality’s with the comfort modes etc much improved imo although the looks are not as smooth
If I was you I would do my best to stretch to a early gen 2 non plus I think the 2014 autos are really going to drop as the gen 2’s come down
However you need to make sure you depreciate over a few years and don’t do what I did last year
Bought a 2014 v10 plus blind. Picked it up from Audi and after a few months realised i couldn’t drive it with terrible back pain. I found the plus to stiff as it was on springs and the buckets had no adjustment. The loss on that was eye watering. So if you do go into it go in eyes open for a 3 year purchase to even out the initial depreciation
Incidentally later last year I bought a older v10 manual on mag ride with sports seats and not buckets and had zero issue at all.
I can also say if you are using as a daily the interior of a gen 1 is getting very very dated. Even a 2014 doesn’t have Bluetooth streaming for example.
I have just moved to a gen 2 2015 and it’s completly different to drive and really is two personality’s with the comfort modes etc much improved imo although the looks are not as smooth
If I was you I would do my best to stretch to a early gen 2 non plus I think the 2014 autos are really going to drop as the gen 2’s come down
Audi dealers will provide a warranty regardless of their performance/reviews.
However as alluded to, get a PPI done - any seller worth their salt and with confidence in the car will allow it on their premises.
But I'm fairly sure the AA won't do a PPI on an R8 therefore your choices are:
- RAC - £500 but you get a fully documented, written report with photographs
- Independent - £200 but usually only receive a verbal summary although likely to have more experience of R8s
However as alluded to, get a PPI done - any seller worth their salt and with confidence in the car will allow it on their premises.
But I'm fairly sure the AA won't do a PPI on an R8 therefore your choices are:
- RAC - £500 but you get a fully documented, written report with photographs
- Independent - £200 but usually only receive a verbal summary although likely to have more experience of R8s
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