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HI lads i have put my griffith up for sale i am not using this to sell just need some info with regards to prices i have put it up for sale for a fair price i think i have 1 offer trader of£14000 as it is with no mot ,it will fly an mot so not worried i also had this morning a gent came to view ,loved the car spent 4 hours checking and talking tea /cake went over it with a tooth comb chassis shocks every thing loved the color wheels told him the little things that need putting right happy with paper work ,its had a list off new thing done to it got new hood.new respray £4250 new wheels and tyres new exhaust system seats dash colour changed any way been looked after by me over the 9,and ahalf years that i have had it 41,000 miles on clock he offered me £13,500 so am i being to greedy asking a few grand more i have looked at the ads the private ones are going for about 20.000 to 26.000 garage are about 22000 to 32,000 the 400 are at least 18,000 the car is in great condition its not concurs but it is nice with no major things wrong with it so can someone give me some info /ball park figure as what i should be asking any help would grateful many thanks paul
Many thanks lads i agree with what you both say on both counts and we are thinking along the same lines so it looks like i am be fair in my price as i have done alot of looking around the web and agree with the factors that you mention bonnet ,so i am going to keep to my guns and wait and see how things unfold many ,many thanks again paul
I guess a lot would depend on how quick you want to sell the car. The bonnet vents would certainly be a factor as they wont appeal to the majority of people and getting them gone could work out expensive. £15000 does sound like a very fair price though for a Griff 500 I'm guessing its a Pre Serp with it being 93 does it have the T5 or the Rover box as these would also be a factor in its value. Is it power steering?
If your happy to wait I would stick it out, someone will come along who wants one.
If you can wait a year then it will be 25 years old which opens up a bigger market in the US.
Chris
If your happy to wait I would stick it out, someone will come along who wants one.
If you can wait a year then it will be 25 years old which opens up a bigger market in the US.
Chris
non standard parts can put buyers off but don't let that be an excuse to sell too cheap. If a private buyer is knocking you on something they don't like style wise then just tell them that's there opinion. We all chance our arm but you have to be fair. One thing though is get an mot before offering for sale. If it takes a couple of months to sell it can always be done again if it's a deal clincher but if offered with no mot and saying it will sail through doesn't always come across he best way no matter how honest you are. 
your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offer
your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offerRobXjcoupe said:
non standard parts can put buyers off but don't let that be an excuse to sell too cheap. If a private buyer is knocking you on something they don't like style wise then just tell them that's there opinion. We all chance our arm but you have to be fair. One thing though is get an mot before offering for sale. If it takes a couple of months to sell it can always be done again if it's a deal clincher but if offered with no mot and saying it will sail through doesn't always come across he best way no matter how honest you are. your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offer
Are we really thinking service history with a TVR dealer or 'others' adds to the value of a car?.. LOL your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offerFrom what I've seen over the years and the stories that come from everyone you talk to who can't do their own, I'm glad I can DIY for sure...
I can spend the time the cars deserve and I can make sure it's done correctly and not just do what the schedule askes for... TBH, if I was looking for a car and it had only ever been 'TVR' services.. I'd be more concerned.
TVR Beaver said:
RobXjcoupe said:
non standard parts can put buyers off but don't let that be an excuse to sell too cheap. If a private buyer is knocking you on something they don't like style wise then just tell them that's there opinion. We all chance our arm but you have to be fair. One thing though is get an mot before offering for sale. If it takes a couple of months to sell it can always be done again if it's a deal clincher but if offered with no mot and saying it will sail through doesn't always come across he best way no matter how honest you are. your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offer
Are we really thinking service history with a TVR dealer or 'others' adds to the value of a car?.. LOL your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offerFrom what I've seen over the years and the stories that come from everyone you talk to who can't do their own, I'm glad I can DIY for sure...
I can spend the time the cars deserve and I can make sure it's done correctly and not just do what the schedule askes for... TBH, if I was looking for a car and it had only ever been 'TVR' services.. I'd be more concerned.
TVR Beaver said:
RobXjcoupe said:
non standard parts can put buyers off but don't let that be an excuse to sell too cheap. If a private buyer is knocking you on something they don't like style wise then just tell them that's there opinion. We all chance our arm but you have to be fair. One thing though is get an mot before offering for sale. If it takes a couple of months to sell it can always be done again if it's a deal clincher but if offered with no mot and saying it will sail through doesn't always come across he best way no matter how honest you are. your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offer
Are we really thinking service history with a TVR dealer or 'others' adds to the value of a car?.. LOL your car looks more than £13.5k and that is a rough 2004 price. I think £15k if it has no history other than yourself and a possible £20k if you have a complete history from new. If the re-paint and re-trim has been done by a tvr firm with receipts then you could push the value higher but at the end of the day it's what you are willing to accept and how long to wait for the next offerFrom what I've seen over the years and the stories that come from everyone you talk to who can't do their own, I'm glad I can DIY for sure...
I can spend the time the cars deserve and I can make sure it's done correctly and not just do what the schedule askes for... TBH, if I was looking for a car and it had only ever been 'TVR' services.. I'd be more concerned.
Not a lot of tvrs have diy maintenance from day 1 though. Cars that have history from day one will command higher prices. So realistically I would look for a car with a mixed dealer and diy service history. A purely stamped record isn't good as is someone that just talks a good talk about the car they are selling.
If a car for sale only has history from the current owner then that is usually a cheaper buy.
HI lads i have paper work from the very start 1st owner then paper work from the other,s also loads of MOT,s a huge pile of invoices load of money spent on car by others and myself it will pass an mot as it has not been any where since the last one and i have had a pre MOT check i agree with you about the bonnet but thats an easy fix many thanks again paul OH paint work was done by Glamorgan Classic Cars south wales cost was £4250
Edited by paul2000 on Tuesday 18th July 21:37
paul2000 said:
HI lads i have paper work from the very start 1st owner then paper work from the other,s also loads of MOT,s a huge pile of invoices load of money spent on car by others and myself it will pass an mot as it has not been any where since the last one and i have had a pre MOT check i agree with you about the bonnet but thats an easy fix many thanks again paul OH paint work was done by Glamorgan Classic Cars south wales cost was £4250
Then in my opinion you have a good car worthy of a better price than you have been currently offered. Edited by paul2000 on Tuesday 18th July 21:37
( my 77 jag coupe and 95 griff both have history from day 1
Hmmm, the Elephant in the room for me for a long time has been:
For many purists the only Griff to have is a pre-cat due to possessing one of the best sound tracks ever to grace a car. Also it has a more 'natural' way of putting the power down, ie not overwhelming the light short chassis with such a huge slug of torque as with the 500
The fact that the 4.3 and above has similar performance and is Much rarer raises the question of when the cognoscenti opinion starts to shift in favour of the pre-cat (whereas presently, the 500 appears wildly over valued / 400s undervalued)
Personally, I believe that the 430 and above pre-cats will soon switch places with the 500 value wise, if only because they are much rarer (the sound and similar performance making the demand outstrip supply far more within a couple of yrs)
No offence intended to 500 guys - I test drove near new examples of both back to back in the 90s - despite the 430 throttle linkage breaking requiring trailering back it gave me an ear to ear smile from the moment it powered up - i took the 500 back with none of the excitement
Also one of the original TVR engine tuners, and very highly respected in the field to this day (John Eales) commented that the 430 is the purest and most optimal capacity for the Rover V8 - when asked about the BV and 4.5, he said that he still preferred the 430 state of tune and capacity
IMPO
For many purists the only Griff to have is a pre-cat due to possessing one of the best sound tracks ever to grace a car. Also it has a more 'natural' way of putting the power down, ie not overwhelming the light short chassis with such a huge slug of torque as with the 500
The fact that the 4.3 and above has similar performance and is Much rarer raises the question of when the cognoscenti opinion starts to shift in favour of the pre-cat (whereas presently, the 500 appears wildly over valued / 400s undervalued)
Personally, I believe that the 430 and above pre-cats will soon switch places with the 500 value wise, if only because they are much rarer (the sound and similar performance making the demand outstrip supply far more within a couple of yrs)
No offence intended to 500 guys - I test drove near new examples of both back to back in the 90s - despite the 430 throttle linkage breaking requiring trailering back it gave me an ear to ear smile from the moment it powered up - i took the 500 back with none of the excitement
Also one of the original TVR engine tuners, and very highly respected in the field to this day (John Eales) commented that the 430 is the purest and most optimal capacity for the Rover V8 - when asked about the BV and 4.5, he said that he still preferred the 430 state of tune and capacity
IMPO
gbox? --notchy & nice
I guess its down to taste - pre-cat for character, purity and sound + exclusivity and 500 presumably for those who want mod con options like power steering and aircon...and obviously, I cant agree that the 500 is best of breed having driven them back to back, just a more modern evolution with more capacity to overcome extra weight and emissions gear
IMHO
I guess its down to taste - pre-cat for character, purity and sound + exclusivity and 500 presumably for those who want mod con options like power steering and aircon...and obviously, I cant agree that the 500 is best of breed having driven them back to back, just a more modern evolution with more capacity to overcome extra weight and emissions gear
IMHO
griffster said:
gbox? --notchy & nice
I guess its down to taste - pre-cat for character, purity and sound + exclusivity and 500 presumably for those who want mod con options like power steering and aircon...and obviously, I cant agree that the 500 is best of breed having driven them back to back, just a more modern evolution with more capacity to overcome extra weight and emissions gear
IMHO
A then brand new 500 was very quiet on the exhaust noise front but most 500's have straight through exhausts and sports cats fitted now. When looking to buy my example I drove a bog standard 500 and then a taraka 500 version with straight through pipes.I guess its down to taste - pre-cat for character, purity and sound + exclusivity and 500 presumably for those who want mod con options like power steering and aircon...and obviously, I cant agree that the 500 is best of breed having driven them back to back, just a more modern evolution with more capacity to overcome extra weight and emissions gear
IMHO
No grin factor on bog standard, massive grin factor on the noisy version plus it was a tad more potent.
I honestly don't think purists aspire to own a bog standard tvr. It's never been that kinda car. Pre-built kit car after all.
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