Over weight passengers?

Over weight passengers?

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griff59

Original Poster:

273 posts

70 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Seems like a bit of a strange question I know! But I'm having problems here, a friend, who is incredibly overweight (23 stone) wants a ride in my Griff, I think I'm going to have to somehow say no, I'm worried that the extra weight might damage the car in some way, am I right to be worried about this?
I'm 5ft 10 and just under 15 stone, so our all-up weight will be around 38 stone, this can't be good for the car surely?
Anyone else been in a similar situation?

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TheRainMaker

6,327 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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I have a friend, who was a bit over weight, now lost it, but was around 21st ish I believe, he had a Chimaera and ended up going through the floor eek had to get reinforcing bars put in to stop it happening again.

The seats are only attached to the fibreglass floor.


BIG DUNC

1,918 posts

223 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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If the car cannot take a couple of 25 stone adults, plus a full boot, then there is something seriously wrong with it.

If you think of the weight of the whole car, then the engine / drive chain / brakes, are not going to be too bothered by carrying an extra 10 stone of weight (above two, say 15 stone passengers). Very surprised about the floor giving up and cannot believe that there was not something wrong with it.

I am not "light" myself and know a couple of other "large / heavy" TVR Owners / driver and have never heard of a problem.

TheRainMaker

6,327 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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BIG DUNC said:
Very surprised about the floor giving up and cannot believe that there was not something wrong with it.
So was he when Str8six showed him the cracks around the seat mounts.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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That's a shed load of weight. I'd say no myself. You risk damaging the seat mounts, flooring. 146kg That's nearly two of me. Just one of my mates managed to rock hard on the pass seat and pulled a washer through the floor.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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BIG DUNC said:
If the car cannot take a couple of 25 stone adults, plus a full boot, then there is something seriously wrong with it.
I'm not being rude here, but 50 stones is 317kg, that's 30% of the car's weight - added - that's a LOT. It'd slow the car down significantly for starters.

griff59

Original Poster:

273 posts

70 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Thanks a lot folks, I think I'm going to be cautious here and say no. I'm dieting at the mo to get my weight down, for the cars performance as much as anything else. I'll just say that I'm only squeezing in at my weight, just to be diplomatic.

was8v

1,935 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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crikey how to these cars perform in a crash if the seat comes adrift that easily...

TheRainMaker

6,327 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Best not find out tbh.

It will hurt.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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was8v said:
crikey how to these cars perform in a crash if the seat comes adrift that easily...
The seatbelts are anchored to the chassis and these are the 'safety structure'. In 'modern' cars the seat does form part of the 'safety structure' and is built accordingly.

I would be wary of putting such weight on the glassfibre floor too. Whilst it may be more than capable of taking it, the jostling to get in and out may well be the time when damage occurs.

Unless, of course, the sensible decision was taken to add cross members to mount the seats too as part of a chassis refurb.

The floor in both my S3s and the Wedge were damaged aound the seat mounts.

steve-V8s

2,901 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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It is a bit of a surprise when you first see how rubbish the standard seat fixing is. In addition the seat itself is not the strongest of things. Would think that most people who have removed the seats will have done something to make it a bit more sturdy after seeing the original offering.

griff59

Original Poster:

273 posts

70 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Phew! My friend has to go back home today, so I've been let off.
The car is arriving at lunchtime, after he's left.
After what's been said here about seat mountings, I'm definitely going to be more aware of things like this in the future.



phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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The fibreglass floor must be the thinest area of fibreglass on the whole car, barely 2 to 3 mm thick!

Not to worry though, TVR in their wisdom fitted large penny washers behind the seat frame holding nuts.......

griff59

Original Poster:

273 posts

70 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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phazed said:
The fibreglass floor must be the thinest area of fibreglass on the whole car, barely 2 to 3 mm thick!

Not to worry though, TVR in their wisdom fitted large penny washers behind the seat frame holding nuts.......
Well, that's a consolation laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Nothing particularly wrong with the seat mountings. Common for kit cars (which TVRs are to a large extent).

As long as the belt mounting points are good then the seat adds little to safety.

phazed

21,844 posts

204 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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True, but it is the floor that is taking the full load of a heavy passenger and it is this floor that is extremely thin! It wouldn’t be impossible for the fibreglass to crack at the mounting points due to excessive weight.

mk1fan

10,516 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Plus its a 'point load'.

Sardonicus

18,952 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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And that is a good point ∆. above

griff59

Original Poster:

273 posts

70 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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This weight thing is turning out to be quite a problem. As I said, I'm sort of OK, I'm 15 stone, my girlfriend is 17 stone, we are both on diets, but these things take time. That's a total weight between the two of us of 32 stone.
I didn't go out in the car as much as I'd like to have done over the weekend because I couldn't go on my own, I told my girlfriend that we needed the BMW as we had things to carry, it's getting ridiculous.
Worse still, I have another friend coming to stay soon, he's way over weight, about 21 stone, same old story, I'm going to have to make up more excuses.
It's not the cars fault, it's a performance vehicle, it's not supposed to have large people in it. But, saying that, there are a couple of guys in our TVR club that are way bigger than I am, and they take their wives on long trips in their cars so....
I didn't think it would be such an issue, but it's turning out to be so.


TheRainMaker

6,327 posts

242 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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griff59 said:
This weight thing is turning out to be quite a problem. As I said, I'm sort of OK, I'm 15 stone, my girlfriend is 17 stone, we are both on diets, but these things take time. That's a total weight between the two of us of 32 stone.
I didn't go out in the car as much as I'd like to have done over the weekend because I couldn't go on my own, I told my girlfriend that we needed the BMW as we had things to carry, it's getting ridiculous.
Worse still, I have another friend coming to stay soon, he's way over weight, about 21 stone, same old story, I'm going to have to make up more excuses.
It's not the cars fault, it's a performance vehicle, it's not supposed to have large people in it. But, saying that, there are a couple of guys in our TVR club that are way bigger than I am, and they take their wives on long trips in their cars so....
I didn't think it would be such an issue, but it's turning out to be so.
It's not really, get whoever services it to fit some support bars across the seat mounting points, job done smile forget about it ever being an issue.