read this if you are fed up with exhaust fumes in cockpit

read this if you are fed up with exhaust fumes in cockpit

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clive f

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7,250 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th January 2010
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I`ve come up with a simple idea that I believe solves the problems of exhaust gases getting into the cockpit when you open a window, if you would like to know more please click on the link here ...

http://www.thegriffithpages.com/index.php?option=c...

BB has put this up on the griffith pages, and this is the only place you can get this modification, its a simple enough job that most people should be able to undertake, just download the templates, follow the instructions and make and fit them yourself, or get a handy mate to do it for you.

there is NO charge for this at all, all we ask is that if you are happy that they have made an imprtovement to your car, then click on the link provided on the griff pages, and make a worthwile donation to the Multiple Sclorosis society.

you may remember last year, Steve Wilson, aka Fatboychim drove from Lands End to
John O `Groats to raise money for this charity as his wonderful wife Claire unfortunately suffers from this condition, so please dig deep.

I have done about 200 miles with these scoops on my car, and I can now only smell fresh air when a window is opened, with a full decat AJP my eyes used to get very sore from the fumes being drawn through, so they work very well.

2Munkys

1,228 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Hmm, is it noisy? Is it in danger of getting ripped off? Did you experiment with other shapes/sizes before concluding this worked best Clive?

Del 203

12,728 posts

249 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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2Munkys said:
Hmm, is it noisy? Is it in danger of getting ripped off? Did you experiment with other shapes/sizes before concluding this worked best Clive?
Hi Bruce, i trial fitted these a few weeks ago & have been forced to drive "roof on" to try them out (Actually it was pissing down on both occasions hehe ) No more fumes, no extra noise & no apparent rear lift at high (ish) speed biggrin

spend

12,581 posts

251 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Before you fit them, try putting some oven hood carbon filter material in the holes. It really cuts down the dust that is drawn in with the air.

I originally used the stuff to filter the cabin air in the wings - very beneficial not having grit hitting the eyes at 100mph+ hehe

SteveGRF

259 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Clive

Over the years of ownership I thought the holes were TVR's solution to drain away water if it collected in the boot, are you saying the holes where originally intended to let air in to the cabin ?

Great idea & solution by the way, I will be carrying out the mod when the weather allows - plus making a donation - Thanks.

P.S - Please post up printable templates for one of your tuned exhaust
manifolds smile

Edited by SteveGRF on Thursday 14th January 12:53

Pink_Floyd

900 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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SteveGRF said:
Over the years of ownership I thought the holes were TVR's solution to drain away water if it collected in the boot, are you saying the holes where originally intended to let air in to the cabin
The holes come up into a cavity of their own. if you were to fill the boot with water, then when it gets about 6 inches deep it will flow over the top of the cavity and then out of the holes, so I assume that they are there to let air in.

clive f

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7,250 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Pink_Floyd said:
SteveGRF said:
Over the years of ownership I thought the holes were TVR's solution to drain away water if it collected in the boot, are you saying the holes where originally intended to let air in to the cabin
The holes come up into a cavity of their own. if you were to fill the boot with water, then when it gets about 6 inches deep it will flow over the top of the cavity and then out of the holes, so I assume that they are there to let air in.
yes

Ant.

5,254 posts

281 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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Clive, it may be worth mentioning that the holes aren't present on earlier cars.
Mine certainly doesn't have them..

clive f

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7,250 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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thanks for the tip Ant, I don`t get under many early carshehe

Bruce, the shape/size is as small as possible, just enough to cover the hole, and the front drops down by 40mm below the bodywork, as they are positioned just behind the wheels you would have to do something pretty serious to knock them off, like loose you rear wheels or snap a shock right off!

making them from something thin and soft like alluminium not only makes them easy to make, but if you did run over something pretty big laying in the road, then the scoop would take the impact, or be ripped off without damaging the firbre glass, hopefullyhehe
rather than having something super strong which would stay in place and cause the fibregalss to break or crack.

there is no noise whatsoever, just pleasant fresh air getting into the car, for example before setting off for TiTT4 I fitted the scoops, and washed the carpet inside the boot lid, which stank of exhaust fumes.
after 200 miles the carpet still smells of the shampoo used to wash it, so it must be working okay.

jeboa

535 posts

261 months

Thursday 14th January 2010
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When I bought my Grif there were two Pioneer speakers sealed in place of the grilles you mention.

So I guess I am lucky that after four years of (unsuccessfully) trying to get the windows to meet the roof seals, I have never succeeded. If I ever did, with the fresh air vents closed and the interior fan off - I probably would have suffocated!!!


clive f

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7,250 posts

233 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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mine is the same, but in the speaker rim around the bottom face there are a series of holes the vent the air, some have them some dont, may be worth checking.

daveb500

391 posts

187 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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jeboa said:
When I bought my Grif there were two Pioneer speakers sealed in place of the grilles you mention.
Just a thought....but if the fumes are coming in through the boot, surely sealing the vents in the rear shelf would stop the fumes getting into the cabin..... wouldn't it?

Edited by daveb500 on Friday 15th January 08:48

RichB

51,566 posts

284 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I've always been puzzled by this, I appreciate it's a concern for some but Ive had my Griff 500 from new, it had speakers fitted in the rear bulkhead by the factory and I've never smelt petrol. When I bought it I was told (by the TVR dealer) not to fit the fuel filler cap too tight but instead to tighten it then back it off half a turn, don't know if that's the reason?

Del 203

12,728 posts

249 months

Friday 15th January 2010
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I tried a new boot seal even doubled the rear edge to try & get a better seal still had exhaust fumes in the car.

I also have speakers in the rear vent raised away from the bulkhead now but have had them flush mounted.

In my case the fumes were coming over the rear wheel arch.


With the added benefit of the missus not complaing of overnight bags/clothes smelling of TVR exhaust hehe

clive f

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233 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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this needs a bumphehe

Pasco

6,652 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2010
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clive f said:
this needs a bumphehe
Super idea Cliff how are things at the mo ?


clive f

Original Poster:

7,250 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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hi Paul yes fine mate, hope a few people will have a go at making some of these, they certainly made a huge difference in my car.yes

Pasco

6,652 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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clive f said:
hi Paul yes fine mate, hope a few people will have a go at making some of these, they certainly made a huge difference in my car.yes
HI PAUL ??? scratchchin What do you want ?

wink

Pink_Floyd

900 posts

221 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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clive f said:
hope a few people will have a go at making some of these, they certainly made a huge difference in my car.yes
Just wondering if the scoops should be fitted the other way round so that they suck air out of the boot. I had assumed that the vent from the cabin to the boot was to let air into the boot to allow air to flow through the cabin, I could be wrong thaough.

clive f

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7,250 posts

233 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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tried the other way around, just made things worsehehe