defender in a crash? views?
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with no NCAP tests on a defender whats the view on on being in a crash? ie another car how well/poorly do you think it would do? would the raised height help protect from intrusion etc?
I had a G4 110 for 3 years and felt fine in it but clearly a head on would be bad due to no crumple and airbags to slow me down.
I had a G4 110 for 3 years and felt fine in it but clearly a head on would be bad due to no crumple and airbags to slow me down.
Edited by superlightr on Thursday 8th December 19:51
Don't roll it,thers no roll over protection,thats why all the Defenders sold in the States had roll cages.Not much crumple zone due to ladder chassis,fine if you hit another car(your crumple zone!)not if if you hit an oak tree.
I had a women in a 3 series BMW drive into the back of my Disco when I was stationary doing 40 mph,her car written off (my spare wheel was touching her windscreen!)had whiplash but drove my car home,did need a new bumper though!
I had a women in a 3 series BMW drive into the back of my Disco when I was stationary doing 40 mph,her car written off (my spare wheel was touching her windscreen!)had whiplash but drove my car home,did need a new bumper though!
A few years ago my BIL was watching the wrong traffic lights on coming out of a tunnel and drove his defender into the back of a Citroen hatch back which shunted a fiesta which shunted a vectra, the back door of the hatchback ended up in the back seat, the fiesta had front and rear damage, the vectra rear damage only, all three cars wrote off. The defender had a slieght bend in the bumper bar.
My mum had a head on with an Artic in our old 90 Van and walked away with bruises. The landy was fixed (rad, bumper, bonnet and wing), the lorry written off.
Personally, my advice when it comes to crashing defenders is not to. There's not much room between you and lots of hard bits, and you're relying on the crumple zone of whatever you hit.
Personally, my advice when it comes to crashing defenders is not to. There's not much room between you and lots of hard bits, and you're relying on the crumple zone of whatever you hit.
topsparks said:
Don't roll it,thers no roll over protection,thats why all the Defenders sold in the States had roll cages.Not much crumple zone due to ladder chassis,fine if you hit another car(your crumple zone!)not if if you hit an oak tree.
I had a women in a 3 series BMW drive into the back of my Disco when I was stationary doing 40 mph,her car written off (my spare wheel was touching her windscreen!)had whiplash but drove my car home,did need a new bumper though!
one of the reasons I liked the G4, had a roll bar and rack.I had a women in a 3 series BMW drive into the back of my Disco when I was stationary doing 40 mph,her car written off (my spare wheel was touching her windscreen!)had whiplash but drove my car home,did need a new bumper though!
Bill]opsparks]Don't roll it.quote said:
This. And I'm not sure being T-boned would be clever. Aside from that I suspect a Defender will win in a fight with most things, and if it doesn't you'll be very, very dead.
Funny enough, I've heard the Defender is one of the best things to be t-boned in because with most cars the impact is below you. Obviously you don't really want to get hit by a range rover but then when would you? 
The Wookie said:
Funny enough, I've heard the Defender is one of the best things to be t-boned in because with most cars the impact is below you. Obviously you don't really want to get hit by a range rover but then when would you?
It is very good in a T bone side impact but only by virtue that your death is instantaneous due to the seat belt anchorage bolt going straight through your temple!!N
The Wookie said:
Funny enough, I've heard the Defender is one of the best things to be t-boned in because with most cars the impact is below you. Obviously you don't really want to get hit by a range rover but then when would you?
That'd make sense, although it probably makes the Defender one of the few cars that are worse off being t-boned by a bike
superlightr said:
one of the reasons I liked the G4, had a roll bar and rack.
Pretty sure the standard G4 roll bar you have is purely cosmetic and bolted just to the panels.No good for anything.Found these pictures of an unprotected defender in a roll whilst researching for my roll bar. Eventually purchased a bolt together type which bolts to the chassis. Not the best option but certainly will stop the roof collapsing, similar to the NAS spec.
Steve UK said:
Pretty sure the standard G4 roll bar you have is purely cosmetic and bolted just to the panels.No good for anything.
Found these pictures of an unprotected defender in a roll whilst researching for my roll bar. Eventually purchased a bolt together type which bolts to the chassis. Not the best option but certainly will stop the roof collapsing, similar to the NAS spec.
ouch quite scary really.Found these pictures of an unprotected defender in a roll whilst researching for my roll bar. Eventually purchased a bolt together type which bolts to the chassis. Not the best option but certainly will stop the roof collapsing, similar to the NAS spec.
I've heard of heavy racks unrolling the gutters so you can't open the doors after driving some heavy corrugations 
A roll isn't great - but the chassis height and weight means that the disco doesn't do another car much good as it enters the passenger compartment of other cars by going over the chassis floor rather than using any crumple zones -saw a disco go into the side of a car and into my two friends while the driver of the landie walked away without wihout a scratch, the driver was devastated and knows to this day he wouldn't have killed them if he'd bought
a normal car.
Hence why I'm vastly against 4x4s being used on the road-I'm sure the defender would be the same.
a normal car.
Hence why I'm vastly against 4x4s being used on the road-I'm sure the defender would be the same.
Edited by BusaMK on Sunday 11th December 21:04
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