Land Rover discovery 6x6!

Land Rover discovery 6x6!

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PapaC

Original Poster:

881 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/,129,/8378...

Spotted this for sale, thought it might be of interest to some smile

JordanTurbo

937 posts

141 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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It's only 4wd, not six.

spaximus

4,231 posts

253 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Bigger question is what on earth is the MOD paying out for that and what for? It seems completely nonsensical for anything militarily speaking

akirk

5,385 posts

114 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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spaximus said:
Bigger question is what on earth is the MOD paying out for that and what for? It seems completely nonsensical for anything militarily speaking
who cares smile that is awesome - I would have no earthly use for it, but would love to own that!

shed driver

2,153 posts

160 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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spaximus said:
Bigger question is what on earth is the MOD paying out for that and what for? It seems completely nonsensical for anything militarily speaking
I'd assume it is used to tow the large recruiting stands. 4WD is probably needed for places like muddy country fairs and other such like.

SD.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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shed driver said:
I'd assume it is used to tow the large recruiting stands. 4WD is probably needed for places like muddy country fairs and other such like.

SD.
Does it do anything for it's custom build pricetag that any number of Jap or Yankee pretty much off the shelf pickups can't?

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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hairyben said:
Does it do anything for it's custom build pricetag that any number of Jap or Yankee pretty much off the shelf pickups can't?
Yes. It looks freakin' awesome.

shed driver

2,153 posts

160 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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hairyben said:
Does it do anything for it's custom build pricetag that any number of Jap or Yankee pretty much off the shelf pickups can't?
Commonality of maintenance?

SD.

ChemicalChaos

10,385 posts

160 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Lets dispel any notions that this is some sort of unique one-off made at great cost for the MOD. Its actually a left over SupaCat fire tender that someone has repainted and put a 5th wheel on:


Timbuktu

1,953 posts

155 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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And would probably be crap off road with those two extra undriven wheels getting in the way!

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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ChemicalChaos said:
Lets dispel any notions that this is some sort of unique one-off made at great cost for the MOD. Its actually a left over SupaCat fire tender that someone has repainted and put a 5th wheel on:

Oh well, if that's the case it'd probably cost more to walk.

red_slr

17,215 posts

189 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Fire used to use these round here. Charmichael did the coachworks.

The Fire Brigade spend eye watering sums on some vehicles that basically sit around doing nothing.

There is a 26 tonne moffett curtainsider for sale at the moment that's got hydraulic locking cages, adjustable roof, scene lighting etc etc. Total usage.... 11,000KM in 10 years. Cost... £300k+! Now yours for £50k. Its like new. Mental.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

247 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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"Add a fifth wheel"


Surely they mean a seventh wheel.....?

spaximus

4,231 posts

253 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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ChemicalChaos said:
Lets dispel any notions that this is some sort of unique one-off made at great cost for the MOD. Its actually a left over SupaCat fire tender that someone has repainted and put a 5th wheel on:

On the advert it said made for MOD. I love the look of the thing but as others have said towing a recruitment unit is done by many other branches using a normal Landrover and exhibition unit.

When we are looking at having less kit in the armed forces it makes no sense to pay more than we should. It is in the same vein as Boris and his water cannons, almost £100k each but cannot be used in the UK.

wolfracesonic

6,974 posts

127 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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6X6 Response anyone?

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Where are my amber beacons? Lets off-road!

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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I know the old defender 6 wheelers the fire service used to run where designed to operate with a 5 ton GVW rather than a 3.5ton in order to haul water and equipment to remote locations, the last one I seen had a 2000L water bowser over the back axles. I assume the Disco performs a similar task nowadays. It's a bit odd that its only 4 wheel drive, particularly as I assume it is the front axle and the mid axle that are driven with a dead tag axle, I suppose it allows them for more payload for on road tasks, particularly with a heavy trailer.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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spaximus said:
It seems completely nonsensical for anything militarily speaking
Ideal for the Royal Navy then.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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caelite said:
I know the old defender 6 wheelers the fire service used to run where designed to operate with a 5 ton GVW rather than a 3.5ton in order to haul water and equipment to remote locations, the last one I seen had a 2000L water bowser over the back axles. I assume the Disco performs a similar task nowadays. It's a bit odd that its only 4 wheel drive, particularly as I assume it is the front axle and the mid axle that are driven with a dead tag axle, I suppose it allows them for more payload for on road tasks, particularly with a heavy trailer.
It's very common for 6x4's, almost all of them are not 6 wheel drive. Some are, and there are different ways to achieve it. But as a rule they are not really better off road for it.

The extra axle is simply there for the payload. It's difficult to up the max axle loading, but adding an extra axle is relatively easy, plus gives a longer wheelbase.

The complex independent suspension setup on a D3/4 means it would likely be a lot harder to make a 6x6 out of them. The old live axles and/or PTO output on the transfer case made this a lot easier to achieve if wanted.

ChemicalChaos

10,385 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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300bhp/ton said:
It's very common for 6x4's, almost all of them are not 6 wheel drive. Some are, and there are different ways to achieve it. But as a rule they are not really better off road for it.

The extra axle is simply there for the payload. It's difficult to up the max axle loading, but adding an extra axle is relatively easy, plus gives a longer wheelbase.

The complex independent suspension setup on a D3/4 means it would likely be a lot harder to make a 6x6 out of them. The old live axles and/or PTO output on the transfer case made this a lot easier to achieve if wanted.
Yes but they were massively flawed. Drive-through middle diffs with a very short rear prop meant they wound up the transmission very badly on a hard surface.

The correct way to do it, which a few "modern era" builders of 6x6 Defenders have done, is to either run freewheeling hubs on the rear axle, or run an extra transfer box located between the 2 rear axles.