2017 Range Rover Sport Autobiography... Discounts to be had?

2017 Range Rover Sport Autobiography... Discounts to be had?

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irfan1712

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1,241 posts

152 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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Hello all

After many posts on here regarding A7 / S7's, RRS and on Monday we looked at a Maserati Lavante, Porsche Panamera GTS (which we loved!), Macan, Cayenne, and X5 we have settled on a Range Rover Sport. Bit off putting at first as they are bloody everywhere but theres a perfectly good reason for that, they look fantastic, lots of luxury and go anywhere ability. 3.0 SDV6 seems to be a far sensible choice than the Panamera GTS which was a close second.

I sat down with a chap in Stratstone Cardiff to discuss my options and ive basically decided to go the whole hog, and go for a brand new one with a good deposit and then HP the remainder.

The spec ive decided on is quite healthy, compromising of (forgive me as ive just copied and pasted from the spec sheet):

EXTERIOR COLOURS: Santorini Black (Metallic)
ROOF OPTIONS: Body coloured full size sliding panoramic roof
INTERIOR CHOICES: Ebony/Ivory with Ivory Seats - Oxford with Autobiography Pattern
FINISHERS Extended Grand Black veneer£780.00
HEADLINING: Ebony Alston headlining

WHEELS 22" 5 split-spoke 'Style 508' with Satin Black finish£1,245.00
ROOF OPTIONS Body coloured full size sliding panoramic roof£0
BRAKES AND CALIPERS Red Brembo™ Brake Calipers with 380mm front and 365mm rear discs£0
GLASS Laminated Front Door, Toughened Rear Door and Quarter Light Glass
HEADLAMPS Adaptive Xenon Headlamps With LED Signature with Automatic High Beam Assist (AHBA)£315.00
EXTERIOR STYLING Body-coloured side sills and bumpers£0


WHEEL OPTIONS Full size spare wheel£260.00
CONVENIENCE Park Assist – Parallel Park, Parking Exit and Perpendicular Park£900.00
CONVENIENCE Surround Camera System£725.00
CONVENIENCE Soft Door Close£460.00
INTERIOR FEATURES Heated and cooled front and rear seats£520.00
SEATING 20-way electric front seats with memory and massage£1,035.00
MULTIMEDIA Dual View Touchscreen£625.00
MULTIMEDIA MeridianTM Reference Sound System£4,140.00



Now i know there will be a face lift version in mid 2018 coming, so with this in mind i see a few people over the course of this year on the forums have had some decent discounts.

Landrover are currently offering a £2k discount. I've looked on things like carwow and dealers around the country are offering around 5.8% discount (which included £1500 of standard land rover discount) which overall equals to about £5k off a AB.

has anyone bettered this and any advice with what i can return to my dealer with RE a % discount?

any other advice is also welcome.
thanks
Irfan

Mulsanne-Speed

564 posts

146 months

Wednesday 13th September 2017
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I've been looking in to the same sort of thing recently but with a FFRR Vogue. I've spoken to several dealers and none are moving much at all yet on price with the current model,

If this continues with the Sport also, I suggest you do as I've decided and wait for the 2018 model if you can. You need to get a pretty good discount on a 2017 - If you don't, you'll be the one who takes the hit at re-sale!!

PS. Love the spec of your car...... Only thing I'd change if possible, is the headlining to Ivory - it'll make the cabin feel much brighter


Edited by Mulsanne-Speed on Wednesday 13th September 23:22

w8pmc

3,345 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Not sure if this is still in play, but when i bought my FFRR A/B, Land Rover were offering a combined £5k discount (£2.5k from LR & £2.5k form the dealer) if you took their funding options. This was before any discount negotiated. You could of course setting the finance early in the agreements life with just a very small level of penalty interest & still have benefited from the £5k.

I chose like you to put in a large deposit & the balance on i think it was a PCP, however i rejected the car after 3 months & got all my money back.

On top of the £5k discount, i got a further £3k off from the dealer, the first service for free & complete wheel care (tyre & alloy insurance) at cost price which saved a further £200.

irfan1712

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1,241 posts

152 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Mulsanne-Speed said:
I've been looking in to the same sort of thing recently but with a FFRR Vogue. I've spoken to several dealers and none are moving much at all yet on price with the current model,

If this continues with the Sport also, I suggest you do as I've decided and wait for the 2018 model if you can. You need to get a pretty good discount on a 2017 - If you don't, you'll be the one who takes the hit at re-sale!!

PS. Love the spec of your car...... Only thing I'd change if possible, is the headlining to Ivory - it'll make the cabin feel much brighter


Edited by Mulsanne-Speed on Wednesday 13th September 23:22
My local dealer (CardifF) called me this morning RE this and basically said that my car will be between 3-4 months, basically a high probability it will be delivered on an 18 plate in January but not an actual MY18 car.

He also stated that the MY18 facelift is due in atleast 12 months if not longer, which is not quite what im reading online so im unsure what to believe. Regardless, he did say with that in mind i would get a 'suitable discount' on a factory build car. Two issues with the MY18 car for me is that i cant wait that long without a car now, and the fact it'll be a facelift i cant see tem offering any sort of discount what so ever. The autobiography i've spec'd tips the scales at £94k which is more than what i intended anyway.

Off there after work this evening to place my order (subject to a decent discount). This will be a long 4 months!

P.S good shout on the headlining, its been changed for Ivory Alston (although there is an Ivory Morzine aswell?)

cheers
irfan

irfan1712

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152 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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w8pmc said:
Not sure if this is still in play, but when i bought my FFRR A/B, Land Rover were offering a combined £5k discount (£2.5k from LR & £2.5k form the dealer) if you took their funding options. This was before any discount negotiated. You could of course setting the finance early in the agreements life with just a very small level of penalty interest & still have benefited from the £5k.

I chose like you to put in a large deposit & the balance on i think it was a PCP, however i rejected the car after 3 months & got all my money back.

On top of the £5k discount, i got a further £3k off from the dealer, the first service for free & complete wheel care (tyre & alloy insurance) at cost price which saved a further £200.
Thanks for that. LR are offering £2k off finance (HP or PCP) on their website straight away, the rest is then down to the dealer which il finalize tonight. Dealers on Car Wow are giving about a £5k discount but this already includes £1500 off from LR, so really the dealer is offering circa £3k discount.

with the new face lift incoming im not prepared to take an over the odds hit on depreciation so they will have to do slightly better than that for me to take a punt and order a new one of the current model really. The thought of a few years service plan may be appealing though if i can wangle that.

out of curiosity why did you reject the car after 3 months..?

w8pmc

3,345 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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irfan1712 said:
My local dealer (CardifF) called me this morning RE this and basically said that my car will be between 3-4 months, basically a high probability it will be delivered on an 18 plate in January but not an actual MY18 car.

He also stated that the MY18 facelift is due in atleast 12 months if not longer, which is not quite what im reading online so im unsure what to believe. Regardless, he did say with that in mind i would get a 'suitable discount' on a factory build car. Two issues with the MY18 car for me is that i cant wait that long without a car now, and the fact it'll be a facelift i cant see tem offering any sort of discount what so ever. The autobiography i've spec'd tips the scales at £94k which is more than what i intended anyway.

Off there after work this evening to place my order (subject to a decent discount). This will be a long 4 months!

P.S good shout on the headlining, its been changed for Ivory Alston (although there is an Ivory Morzine aswell?)

cheers
irfan
The 18 plate won't be possible until March 18.

I was told the FFRR will get the MY18 facelift first, followed by the RRS a few months later. The MY18 changes are worthwhile, but as above i'd expect to see RRS with those around Summer next year & FFRR around late Winter/early Spring.

As is the case with LR, the MY18 should be launched about now with the first deliveries around Dec/Jan, but they're struggling getting the new InControl Touch Duo Pro (as per the Velar) & no doubt other facelift issues so the MY18 is being delayed by 6mths+

Hell, they haven't even fixed the MY17 InControl Touch Pro yet so little hope for the next variant.

cayman-black

12,625 posts

215 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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Regarding headlining you want the Alston which is like alcantara not the Morzine which is just material.
I heard the 18 mdl should be announced in October has this changed then?

w8pmc

3,345 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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cayman-black said:
Regarding headlining you want the Alston which is like alcantara not the Morzine which is just material.
I heard the 18 mdl should be announced in October has this changed then?
Depends if you mean the RRS or FFRR?

Normally the new MY for FFRR is announced around October, with deliveries starting in Dec/Jan, however the MY18 FFRR is meant to be a more significant update such as LED headlights & more importantly the Infotainment system that the new Velar has. This, hardly surprising is causing LR issues & as such it looks likely the MY18 launch will be Spring 2018 with deliveries in the Summer.

I've no confirmation of this, however if a heavily revised FFRR model was due for launch in a few weeks, the rumour mills would already be wagging & you'd expect it to have been seen out in the wild by now.

No idea on the RRS, as i don't know how heavily the MY18 in RRS form will be revised, so could be sooner, at the same time or even later.

Mulsanne-Speed

564 posts

146 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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I've been told by my local dealer, that I can pay a deposit now for a 2018 FFRR, choose spec at some point in the coming months and expect delivery around March / April 2018 - That said, it depends who you talk too, seems we're all getting slightly different info.

I was going to pay a deposit on Monday but decided to hang fire..... This is because, I'm not exactly sure what the car is going to look like, whether or not they'll change the interior options and there's also talk of new engines, including a 2.0 Ltr petrol combined with an electric power plant.

I also worry my build slot will come around to quickly and I may choose a spec I later come to regret. I'm not bothered about being the first to have something new, so I think I'd rather wait, see the car in the flesh and read some reviews before choosing my preferred specification - It's a lot of money to get it wrong!

I have so far found a couple of images, which I'm sure some of you have already seen, The first gives the best idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB58gd2cg0g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i81g65lukU

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2018-range-rove...

irfan1712

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1,241 posts

152 months

Thursday 14th September 2017
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well then.

sat down with the salesman I've been dealing with in Cardiff. An experienced chap but new to Land Rover so i ended up talking to the sales manager of the branch instead who was helpful, ish.

Long story short, the deposit i will be giving over the phone in the morning will be for a MY18 car. They are basing the spec on what i have built on a current MY17 RRS (£13k options on top of the AB 3.0SDV6). This means that i will essentially be getting a MY18 face lifted car for the price of the MY17. He said he couldn't fix the price, but generally they will not ask for more money - however i did query options varying from the facelift to the current RRS and all he could tell me was he didn't have any info from LR on what the options are going to be.

I will have a chance for minor tweaks and changes on the build anyway - soon as i see some official spec on the MY18 car i can call them with any changes. E.g my car has been spec'd with adaptive xenons, the MY18 car may come with LEDs so i will either be asked to pay the difference if i want them or stay with adaptive xenons, etc etc. Generally 'cloudy' information but at the end of the day if they don't have information to give me from LR then they can't give me the answers i need right now.

I was urged to get an order in ASAP (of course i was) in order to secure one of the first of the MY18 cars. They predict that this mY18 car will be ready in January. LR are not actually taking orders for build slots on the mY18 car but of course when they do open the book for orders mine will move from a 'order pool' as my dealer put it, straight to LR.

im not bothered in the slightest about being the first to own anything, infact id rather wait a little as usually theres teething problems that are usually ironed out. However i really do need the car asap as our 4 series GC was only a lease through BMW to tie us over to buy the RRS which goes back in Dec.

In a nutshell, i have all fingers and toes crossed that the car will be on my drive in January 2018. Will update on what discount/offers i can get tomorrow - I'm looking for a good discount to get an order in now and/or some sort of servicing plan with it too.

cheers
Irfan

Edited by irfan1712 on Thursday 14th September 23:04

Mulsanne-Speed

564 posts

146 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Thanks for the update irfan. Please let us know how you get on with the discount etc. I know generally with new models they won't give anything off, although going the route you're going might be a workaround

hilly10

7,076 posts

227 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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I would save the money on the Parking nonsense. It was std on two Mercs I had,also on the wife's Evoque and she or I never used it once, by the time you set it up, you have parked the bloody thing. Biggest waste of money ever. Otherwise nice spec and very nice car

irfan1712

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1,241 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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hi all, thanks for the feedback.

i have put money down to secure a build slot on a £92k A/B 3.0SDV6 - i had £4k off, plus the £1500 LR contribution, and i also wangled in a 5 year servicing plan.

This will also be a facelift car (MY18) and not a MY17 car which i've based my order on. this means some options may change, if so i will be given a heads up as soon as the official spec sheet is released for the MY18 car in order to chop and change smaller options. i.e Xenon to LED headlights, perhaps.

One thing i've been told is a January delivery which i have a funny feeling will get pushed back, if it does i wont be amused.


Rosscow

8,723 posts

162 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Christ, £92k for a RR Sport!

How much do the new FFRR's go for?!

Enjoy OP, it's going to be lovely.

irfan1712

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1,241 posts

152 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Rosscow said:
Christ, £92k for a RR Sport!

How much do the new FFRR's go for?!

Enjoy OP, it's going to be lovely.
A Similar spec'd FFRR Autobiog would be well north of 100K.

But its besides the point, the FFRR is far too big to use as an everyday car (in my opinion). Looked at one in Cardiff LR inside the showroom which had the SVO styling on there and honestly, it looked phenomenal.. Couldnt take my eyes off it.No hiding the fact it really is an utter tank.. i'd love one if i could see sense in it!

Irfan

RRHEV

6 posts

78 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Had Both, same width, although on the L405 length is slightly longer by 6" + 2+ higher
tbh no noticable diff on parking ect . Try both then decide, imho its hard to beat a FFRR



Rosscow

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162 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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RRHEV said:
Had Both, same width, although on the L405 length is slightly longer by 6" + 2+ higher
tbh no noticable diff on parking ect . Try both then decide, imho its hard to beat a FFRR
Indeed, not a lot in it to be fair. http://www.automobiledimension.com/land-rover-car-...

In fact, it's barely any longer than our Audi A6 Avant (66mm!) and we have absolutely no trouble using that day to day.

w8pmc

3,345 posts

237 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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RRHEV said:
Had Both, same width, although on the L405 length is slightly longer by 6" + 2+ higher
tbh no noticable diff on parking ect . Try both then decide, imho its hard to beat a FFRR
Agreed, the only noticeable difference when driving them is the cabin space as the FFRR is taller. Width & length the difference is marginal.

Never been a fan of the RRS (purely a personal thing), but the FFRR is the Daddy & offers so much more if the price is that close.

With discounts & incentives, my FFRR A/B was just shy of £100k list in March this year, but OTR was closer to £92k.

irfan1712

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1,241 posts

152 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Land Rover UK posted several videos yesterday on the MY18 cars at last:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQMdrzkHYG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkte7Z6SpPU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M4EfzwVyco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqpcmiZs3yQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhhTeJfW_Xc


Highlights seem to be:

-New front bumper (SVR's bumper looks a lot more aggressive, with a carbon fiber bonnet which im not feeling)
-New rear lower apron, housing larger tailpipes which sit slightly more central as found on the velar
-New LED headlights with (i imagine) optional laser beam assist
-'3D' style rear taillights
-Sweeping indicators
-New wheels, ones in the vid look like they can be spec'd on the velar too SVR also has new wheels.
-interior - different style and pattern of seats, looks to be a new colour combo too
-Dual touch pro - dual touch screens as found in the velar
-Engines all remain as they are, with the exception of a new 400bhp Petrol/Elec Hybrid

One thing i want to find out is if they offer an 'SVO' styling package for the RRS. I seen an ' SVO'd ' FFRR at the Cardiff dealership which was just a 3.0 SDV6 and it looked fantastic, allthough it was a £12k option.

Safe to say im pleased with the facelift looking at those videos. Will look to sit with my dealer when they have more info on spec and options to see what i would like to keep or change.

Roll on January!

Mulsanne-Speed

564 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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I think you can spec already......Go to Landrover.co.uk then click on "Build & Price" then "New Range Rover Sport"