need some help with a purchase...

need some help with a purchase...

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pidsy

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7,989 posts

157 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Morning all,

a friend has decided to get back into the world of landy ownership - hes found a truck he likes and paid a deposit. problem being - its in scotland and he's in london.

its a defender pick-up - 2008 (has been cat C and repaired) - hes due to pick it up this week but has just noticed its down as a 7 seter on the log book (seller sent him some pics of the paperwork). if its a pickup how can it be 7 seats?
he's concerned that its a dodgy conversion after it was written off i.e they put the pick up bed on the new chassis. its got an irish plate on it which is making details about it harder to find out.

hes not concerned about the fact its been written off (it was relatively cheap), its more that the V5 might not have been updated.

any thoughts?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Even the little bit you've explained would be enough for me to walk away.
Plenty of Defenders out there without going down the Cat C route.
A truck cab might just be a former seven seater in a previous life as a station wagon:
Four inward facing rear seats and two front seats with one extra seat in the middle, but I'd say it's unlikely - not sure when the extra middle seat was withdrawn as an option but I suspect it was pre-2008, and I'm pretty certain by 2008 the inward-facing rear seats had also gone in favour of just two forward-facing rear seats meaning a 90 would be just a four seater.
My money's on your mate being sold a 90 on the papers for a 110 (which would've had seven seats in rows of two-three-two, all forward-facing.

pidsy

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7,989 posts

157 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Cheers.

The pictures (and video) the seller sent are of a twin cab pickup.
It’s been heavily modified which is why he likes it.
Just confused as to whether the conversion is legit - I can’t imagin it left the factory as a pick-up whilst listed as a “station wagon”.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Ah, my mistake. I just had it in my head it was a 90. 110 pick-ups are quite rare on a 2008 plate, but a crewcab pick up less so.
It could be legit, but the conversion from station wagon to crewcab would be quite lengthy and involved as it'd need a new rear bulk head between the rear seats and the load area. Not impossible, bit a lot of work for it much gain.

pidsy

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7,989 posts

157 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ok - so the conversion probably took place when it was written off. i'm guessing there was a shell change and never recorded on the V5.

got written off, bought back, owner decided to add some mods, and then changed the body. hes not particularly bothered but it does seem a little odd to me.

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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These are like a Meccano set. You can convert from estate to pickup to soft-top to double cab (for a 110) with little more than a spanner, a screwdriver and a couple of hours. Everything is interchangeable. I wouldn't let the actual body style vs the V5 put you off too much, but definitely do all the due diligence in other areas.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Station wagon to crewcab is quite an involved conversion though - it'd need a whole new rear tub with the additional bulkhead between the passenger compartment and load area.
I'd say it's not so much a conversion, more a total rebuild after whatever occured to make it Cat C.

pidsy

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7,989 posts

157 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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He doesn’t have any further info on who did it, I presume it wasn’t the seller - they neglected to mention any change. It was just something he noticed when he got the pics through over the weekend.

pidsy

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7,989 posts

157 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Well, he picked it up.

Huge wobble on the steering above 40mph so the drive was long (562 miles).
The seller knocked a couple of grand off for that and the fact the central locking doesn’t work.


anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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pidsy said:
Huge wobble on the steering above 40mph
I would've walked away.
He'll be chasing that for as long as he owns the car, especially on those tyres.

CAPP0

19,582 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Don't know what's causing the wobble but if the seller knocked £2k off then you can bet he does and you can bet it's a bit more than a worn ball joint!

Related to the Cat C-ness perchance?

pidsy

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7,989 posts

157 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I did warn him!

I’ve got a feeling the chassis is not right.
Tyres are being changed at the weekend. Then the suspension is being stripped out next week.

He basically bought it for going shooting - it’ll end up not getting used very much at all.

Then he’ll try and get rid.

Thank you for your input gents. You can lead a horse to water...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Thing is, with most suspension-related wobbles, they can be driven through and usually disappear as the speed climbs.
Did this one stay?

PS. Is this your mate? I only ask as that is so not a shooting truck.


Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th January 22:52