Turbo/Engine issues apparently
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Guys really need your help here because I have lost my mind.
So my 2010 RRS 3.0 tdv went in for both turbo replacements.......thankfully I have warranty...indy garage diagnosed that the off side turbo was leaking so claimed and got both turbos done..
Now after the first change they did a road test and the offside was leaking so they got another turbo in and changed that. Again yesterday road test and that turbo is showing signs of leak.
Now they are saying the turbo engineers need to do a report and it could be the engine, its only done 70k miles why would it be the engine?
The car has been at the gargae since January and their courtesy car is a nissan micra so I have been hiring off thrifty since then so I am down in £££££££££££ & about to lose my f****** mind today.
Anyone ever seen anything like this before? what can i do now?
So my 2010 RRS 3.0 tdv went in for both turbo replacements.......thankfully I have warranty...indy garage diagnosed that the off side turbo was leaking so claimed and got both turbos done..
Now after the first change they did a road test and the offside was leaking so they got another turbo in and changed that. Again yesterday road test and that turbo is showing signs of leak.
Now they are saying the turbo engineers need to do a report and it could be the engine, its only done 70k miles why would it be the engine?
The car has been at the gargae since January and their courtesy car is a nissan micra so I have been hiring off thrifty since then so I am down in £££££££££££ & about to lose my f****** mind today.
Anyone ever seen anything like this before? what can i do now?
I'm no expert on this (just 30 years of DIY spannering) but I'll chip in.
The turbos run on an oil bearing which also aids cooling, if the engine oil pressure is low then the turbos don't get a sufficient supply and fail.
Likewise if the oil feed pipes to and from the turbos are restricted or blocked then it can lead to the same result. If the return oil pipe is blocked then only place the pressurised oil can go is through the seals and give another leak.
That's why it's important when replacing turbos to also replace, or I would have thought at the very least, check and clean the oil feed and return pipework.
This sums it up (although I have no connection with the company so can't recommend them either way):
http://allinoneblog.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-s...
"When turbochargers are replaced, full service must be done. New oil, oil filter, feed pipes, as well as system clean, breathing system clean. Oil pressure must be measured."
That is why the 'engine' is now being considered as an issue (low oil pressure supply) however checking it, as mentioned above, should really be all part of the 'package' of replacing a failed turbo from a decent garage or it's likely to happen again to a replacement turbo. It's a case of finding why the first turbo failed which it shouldn't really do at 70k miles.
Unfortunately when dealing with warranties it may be a case they will only pay for replacing the failed item and rightly or wrongly no investigation work has been carried out.
It's also possible that they've been very unlucky and had two faulty replacement turbos but that obviously would be unusual and is why the turbo company are investigating. I could well be wrong but it sounds like no checks or works have been done to remedy why the first turbo failed however given both turbos were replaced then at least they have some sort of idea to replace poorly accessible parts while in there.
I would find out exactly what's been done with regard to oil feed checking and replacement and diagnosis.
Given the amount of labour needed to replace the turbos on a RRS then really everything possible needs doing and checking while in there as it's cheaper in the long run.
The turbos run on an oil bearing which also aids cooling, if the engine oil pressure is low then the turbos don't get a sufficient supply and fail.
Likewise if the oil feed pipes to and from the turbos are restricted or blocked then it can lead to the same result. If the return oil pipe is blocked then only place the pressurised oil can go is through the seals and give another leak.
That's why it's important when replacing turbos to also replace, or I would have thought at the very least, check and clean the oil feed and return pipework.
This sums it up (although I have no connection with the company so can't recommend them either way):
http://allinoneblog.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-s...
"When turbochargers are replaced, full service must be done. New oil, oil filter, feed pipes, as well as system clean, breathing system clean. Oil pressure must be measured."
That is why the 'engine' is now being considered as an issue (low oil pressure supply) however checking it, as mentioned above, should really be all part of the 'package' of replacing a failed turbo from a decent garage or it's likely to happen again to a replacement turbo. It's a case of finding why the first turbo failed which it shouldn't really do at 70k miles.
Unfortunately when dealing with warranties it may be a case they will only pay for replacing the failed item and rightly or wrongly no investigation work has been carried out.
It's also possible that they've been very unlucky and had two faulty replacement turbos but that obviously would be unusual and is why the turbo company are investigating. I could well be wrong but it sounds like no checks or works have been done to remedy why the first turbo failed however given both turbos were replaced then at least they have some sort of idea to replace poorly accessible parts while in there.
I would find out exactly what's been done with regard to oil feed checking and replacement and diagnosis.
Given the amount of labour needed to replace the turbos on a RRS then really everything possible needs doing and checking while in there as it's cheaper in the long run.
Mroad said:
I'm no expert on this (just 30 years of DIY spannering) but I'll chip in.
The turbos run on an oil bearing which also aids cooling, if the engine oil pressure is low then the turbos don't get a sufficient supply and fail.
Likewise if the oil feed pipes to and from the turbos are restricted or blocked then it can lead to the same result. If the return oil pipe is blocked then only place the pressurised oil can go is through the seals and give another leak.
That's why it's important when replacing turbos to also replace, or I would have thought at the very least, check and clean the oil feed and return pipework.
This sums it up (although I have no connection with the company so can't recommend them either way):
http://allinoneblog.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-s...
"When turbochargers are replaced, full service must be done. New oil, oil filter, feed pipes, as well as system clean, breathing system clean. Oil pressure must be measured."
That is why the 'engine' is now being considered as an issue (low oil pressure supply) however checking it, as mentioned above, should really be all part of the 'package' of replacing a failed turbo from a decent garage or it's likely to happen again to a replacement turbo. It's a case of finding why the first turbo failed which it shouldn't really do at 70k miles.
Unfortunately when dealing with warranties it may be a case they will only pay for replacing the failed item and rightly or wrongly no investigation work has been carried out.
It's also possible that they've been very unlucky and had two faulty replacement turbos but that obviously would be unusual and is why the turbo company are investigating. I could well be wrong but it sounds like no checks or works have been done to remedy why the first turbo failed however given both turbos were replaced then at least they have some sort of idea to replace poorly accessible parts while in there.
I would find out exactly what's been done with regard to oil feed checking and replacement and diagnosis.
Given the amount of labour needed to replace the turbos on a RRS then really everything possible needs doing and checking while in there as it's cheaper in the long run.
Hi Mroad thank you for this info. Actually makes alot of senseThe turbos run on an oil bearing which also aids cooling, if the engine oil pressure is low then the turbos don't get a sufficient supply and fail.
Likewise if the oil feed pipes to and from the turbos are restricted or blocked then it can lead to the same result. If the return oil pipe is blocked then only place the pressurised oil can go is through the seals and give another leak.
That's why it's important when replacing turbos to also replace, or I would have thought at the very least, check and clean the oil feed and return pipework.
This sums it up (although I have no connection with the company so can't recommend them either way):
http://allinoneblog.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-s...
"When turbochargers are replaced, full service must be done. New oil, oil filter, feed pipes, as well as system clean, breathing system clean. Oil pressure must be measured."
That is why the 'engine' is now being considered as an issue (low oil pressure supply) however checking it, as mentioned above, should really be all part of the 'package' of replacing a failed turbo from a decent garage or it's likely to happen again to a replacement turbo. It's a case of finding why the first turbo failed which it shouldn't really do at 70k miles.
Unfortunately when dealing with warranties it may be a case they will only pay for replacing the failed item and rightly or wrongly no investigation work has been carried out.
It's also possible that they've been very unlucky and had two faulty replacement turbos but that obviously would be unusual and is why the turbo company are investigating. I could well be wrong but it sounds like no checks or works have been done to remedy why the first turbo failed however given both turbos were replaced then at least they have some sort of idea to replace poorly accessible parts while in there.
I would find out exactly what's been done with regard to oil feed checking and replacement and diagnosis.
Given the amount of labour needed to replace the turbos on a RRS then really everything possible needs doing and checking while in there as it's cheaper in the long run.
I will be going down today on lunch and get a full written breakdown and report back here for more advise lol
This has been a nightmare and I let go of my lease car thinking it would be ready for collection beginning of July...now im just hiring cars and costing a bloody fortune
Mroad said:
I'm no expert on this (just 30 years of DIY spannering) but I'll chip in.
The turbos run on an oil bearing which also aids cooling, if the engine oil pressure is low then the turbos don't get a sufficient supply and fail.
Likewise if the oil feed pipes to and from the turbos are restricted or blocked then it can lead to the same result. If the return oil pipe is blocked then only place the pressurised oil can go is through the seals and give another leak.
That's why it's important when replacing turbos to also replace, or I would have thought at the very least, check and clean the oil feed and return pipework.
This sums it up (although I have no connection with the company so can't recommend them either way):
http://allinoneblog.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-s...
"When turbochargers are replaced, full service must be done. New oil, oil filter, feed pipes, as well as system clean, breathing system clean. Oil pressure must be measured."
That is why the 'engine' is now being considered as an issue (low oil pressure supply) however checking it, as mentioned above, should really be all part of the 'package' of replacing a failed turbo from a decent garage or it's likely to happen again to a replacement turbo. It's a case of finding why the first turbo failed which it shouldn't really do at 70k miles.
Unfortunately when dealing with warranties it may be a case they will only pay for replacing the failed item and rightly or wrongly no investigation work has been carried out.
It's also possible that they've been very unlucky and had two faulty replacement turbos but that obviously would be unusual and is why the turbo company are investigating. I could well be wrong but it sounds like no checks or works have been done to remedy why the first turbo failed however given both turbos were replaced then at least they have some sort of idea to replace poorly accessible parts while in there.
I would find out exactly what's been done with regard to oil feed checking and replacement and diagnosis.
Given the amount of labour needed to replace the turbos on a RRS then really everything possible needs doing and checking while in there as it's cheaper in the long run.
Right so now they have said they don’t have a oil pressure tool and will be getting one tomorrow to check the pressure? Wtf is all that about.The turbos run on an oil bearing which also aids cooling, if the engine oil pressure is low then the turbos don't get a sufficient supply and fail.
Likewise if the oil feed pipes to and from the turbos are restricted or blocked then it can lead to the same result. If the return oil pipe is blocked then only place the pressurised oil can go is through the seals and give another leak.
That's why it's important when replacing turbos to also replace, or I would have thought at the very least, check and clean the oil feed and return pipework.
This sums it up (although I have no connection with the company so can't recommend them either way):
http://allinoneblog.co.uk/land-rover-range-rover-s...
"When turbochargers are replaced, full service must be done. New oil, oil filter, feed pipes, as well as system clean, breathing system clean. Oil pressure must be measured."
That is why the 'engine' is now being considered as an issue (low oil pressure supply) however checking it, as mentioned above, should really be all part of the 'package' of replacing a failed turbo from a decent garage or it's likely to happen again to a replacement turbo. It's a case of finding why the first turbo failed which it shouldn't really do at 70k miles.
Unfortunately when dealing with warranties it may be a case they will only pay for replacing the failed item and rightly or wrongly no investigation work has been carried out.
It's also possible that they've been very unlucky and had two faulty replacement turbos but that obviously would be unusual and is why the turbo company are investigating. I could well be wrong but it sounds like no checks or works have been done to remedy why the first turbo failed however given both turbos were replaced then at least they have some sort of idea to replace poorly accessible parts while in there.
I would find out exactly what's been done with regard to oil feed checking and replacement and diagnosis.
Given the amount of labour needed to replace the turbos on a RRS then really everything possible needs doing and checking while in there as it's cheaper in the long run.
So they have sent back my original turbos, installed two new hoffman turbos which the offside turbo leaked so replaced a second time and it leaked again.
Now they are saying they will be checking oil pressure when they get the tool.... worst case it is the low pressure oil or even the engine does that mean there was actually nothing wrong with my original turbos which are now in a different time zone.
How do I go by this as I ain’t parting with any more money towards this. If they diagnosed this properly we wouldn’t be here. They should be responsible for this.
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