Are Range Rover Sports really that unreliable?

Are Range Rover Sports really that unreliable?

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Vroomer

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1,865 posts

180 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Hi

I've been thinking about a RRS and loved the test drive but have been put off by tales of unreliability. What's the truth here? (I'd be buying a 2016 model.)

Thanks.

Crumpet

3,894 posts

180 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Well, it’s a Land Rover, and in my experience you either get an absolute gem that never puts a foot wrong or you get an absolute dog. There doesn’t seem to be much middle ground.

We have four in the family at the moment and all have been excellent. My last disco however...... biggrin

Triple7

4,013 posts

237 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Never had an issue which wasn’t limited to a single fault, rectified on each of the past 5 new LR’s I’ve had (aside the pos DS).

Our RRS was perfect, only the the active roll bar leaked and needed replacing under warranty. But the oil dilution would be my concern on the TDV6 moving forward. Have a LR warranty....

craigjm

17,939 posts

200 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Motoring forums are always going to give you a skewed view. They have just as many issues as others. You may get a bad one who knows. People don’t come into places like this and praise cars to the heavens they moan about problems

So

26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Vroomer said:
Hi

I've been thinking about a RRS and loved the test drive but have been put off by tales of unreliability. What's the truth here? (I'd be buying a 2016 model.)

Thanks.
I've had a few Range Rovers.

Buying a new one is like buying a new build house. You'll have a snagging list after a couple of weeks, that lot gets put right and you'll have another list after a few months. When that is done you have a good car. Probably.

But Land Rovers aren't really well enough put together for the price and when compared to something like a Porsche.

Also, I tend to find that Land Rover dealerships are pretty low rent when one considers that they are selling luxury cars. I have better service from our local Mini and Fiat dealerships than our LR dealership. Which makes any problems I do have with the cars seem considerably worse.








Barga

12,241 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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So said:
I've had a few Range Rovers.

Buying a new one is like buying a new build house. You'll have a snagging list after a couple of weeks, that lot gets put right and you'll have another list after a few months. When that is done you have a good car. Probably.

But Land Rovers aren't really well enough put together for the price and when compared to something like a Porsche.

Also, I tend to find that Land Rover dealerships are pretty low rent when one considers that they are selling luxury cars. I have better service from our local Mini and Fiat dealerships than our LR dealership. Which makes any problems I do have with the cars seem considerably worse.
I have found the exact opposite.

jonttt

681 posts

171 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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I’ve had a few, would never own one without a full LR warranty.

I’ve had engines let go at 15k miles two weeks after first services, suspensions collapse, electrical faults, more suspension recalls than I can count (they often don;t tell you and do the work on the QT at service time), etc, etc....

Fantastic cars, in fact the FFRR are my fav all rounders BUT I would never ever buy one without a LR warranty full stop.

By way of example when the Velar was launched I asked my mate who was the Sales Manager at the Chester RR about them, he was dreading the launch..... sure enough first weekend x15 left the showroom....... 9 where back in for various faults within a week.

The trick is if your buying a second hand one a couple of years ago is to find one where the first owner was meticulous about getting every issue sorted, they will have gone through the pain and you can then end up with a fantastic car, but there is no label on them telling you that lol

another example we have had SWMBO Evogue autobiography from new on a 17 plate, its only done 8k and as been “fine” ..... but “fine” with a Range Rover in this case means that about 1 in10 starts the info system refuses to boot. No reason, just refuses. You can turn the car on and off and it won’t start, just drive and at some point it will just boot. I’m never sure if its an over the air update or what but its damn annoying. We simply cannot be bothered to take it in to get it fixed, mentioned it for first service, “we tested it sir and it worked fine” of course it did, but it may not tomorrow lol

Anyway, I’m now in a hybrid 7 series, as boring as hell, but massively cheaper on BIK...... but boy do a I miss the FFRR despite there tendency to blow up ;-) (ps my last one was on a 15 plate and it was a known fault for the engine to seize, carried over from the previous model block problems which made it even worse).

So

26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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jonttt said:
The trick is if your buying a second hand one a couple of years ago is to find one where the first owner was meticulous about getting every issue sorted, they will have gone through the pain and you can then end up with a fantastic car, but there is no label on them telling you that lol

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Ah, you'd think so wouldn't you. After buying new usually, the most recent one we bought at 2 years old. I think the previous owner probably did a good job of getting any issues sorted, but the dealership (rhymes with Fookers) tried to turn us over by not doing essential work to the car before delivery. They paid up in the end, plus compensation, but they were hard work.

I think in future, if we stay with the LR marque, it will be back to brand new with a healthy dose of prayer.


Vroomer

Original Poster:

1,865 posts

180 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Thanks to all for your responses...

...they're not giving me confidence!!

Tin Hat

1,371 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Barga said:
So said:
I've had a few Range Rovers.

Buying a new one is like buying a new build house. You'll have a snagging list after a couple of weeks, that lot gets put right and you'll have another list after a few months. When that is done you have a good car. Probably.

But Land Rovers aren't really well enough put together for the price and when compared to something like a Porsche.

Also, I tend to find that Land Rover dealerships are pretty low rent when one considers that they are selling luxury cars. I have better service from our local Mini and Fiat dealerships than our LR dealership. Which makes any problems I do have with the cars seem considerably worse.
I have found the exact opposite.
I have used 3 local dealers to service our LR and they have been significantly worse than any other marque that I have experienced

Barga

12,241 posts

206 months

Wednesday 5th June 2019
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Tin Hat said:
Barga said:
So said:
I've had a few Range Rovers.

Buying a new one is like buying a new build house. You'll have a snagging list after a couple of weeks, that lot gets put right and you'll have another list after a few months. When that is done you have a good car. Probably.

But Land Rovers aren't really well enough put together for the price and when compared to something like a Porsche.

Also, I tend to find that Land Rover dealerships are pretty low rent when one considers that they are selling luxury cars. I have better service from our local Mini and Fiat dealerships than our LR dealership. Which makes any problems I do have with the cars seem considerably worse.
I have found the exact opposite.
I have used 3 local dealers to service our LR and they have been significantly worse than any other marque that I have experienced
The one I use and it’s the one I purchased the cars new from has been first class picking up and dropping of a courtesy car for servicing and the car is returned fully valeted.
The ownership experience of both our LRs has been much better than previous Mercs,BMWs and Audi (the Audi was also pretty good) but the Landrover has been exceptionally good.

So

26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Barga said:
The one I use and it’s the one I purchased the cars new from has been first class picking up and dropping of a courtesy car for servicing and the car is returned fully valeted.
The ownership experience of both our LRs has been much better than previous Mercs,BMWs and Audi (the Audi was also pretty good) but the Landrover has been exceptionally good.
There is a lot of variation between dealerships. I have now started using a more distant one and they appear to be very good. They act as a far better buffer between manufacturer and customer.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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I've been banging on for ages about what a great buy an officially approved four year old FFRR is with it's two year warranty at about £40k. It's a nigh on one hundred grand luxury car for somewhere around £15-20k for three years.

I keep getting tempted, then I read the internet and bottle it!

bakerstreet

4,761 posts

165 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Vroomer said:
Hi

I've been thinking about a RRS and loved the test drive but have been put off by tales of unreliability. What's the truth here? (I'd be buying a 2016 model.)

Thanks.
Sorry but the vagueness of your post really annoys me. Your not giving us much to go on.

What would your budget be?
What engine are you looking at?
What cars have you run previously?

I genuinely don't understand what you are expecting people to say.

I ran a Discovery 3 for two and ahalf years and it was a pricey beast to run, but I was buying at the then bottom of the market rate. (I paid £6k) During that period it was pretty expensive to run.

You have to remember that these cars are tremendously complex vehicles.

You have air suspension with multiple settings and components. Sensors and compressors and valves do fail. Airbags are fairly tough though.

Gearboxes and Torque Converters. TCs wear out and fook the box...The general view was that the later 8Sp box is much better....however I recon that won't be the case for ever.

If you have a suitable budget to buy a decent warranty, then I advise you do that. Maybe a £1k a year will cover you, but cheaper than a new 2.0SDV6 engine when it snaps a crank.

Do not kid your self that it will be a reliable car. Its a Land Rover. Best tow cars out there and incredibly versatile, but they need to be working for you to reap the rewards of your mighty 4x4.

Deranged Rover

3,359 posts

74 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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I think the answer to the OP is that you never really can tell and it is a bit of a lottery. I've owned two RRs.

The first was a 1994 Classic that I bought when it was 17 years old, that never put a foot wrong in the four and a half years I owned it and which I only sold when too many of the MOT advisories mentioned the word "corrosion"! Obviously there was always something that was prone to falling off, or a button that only worked every now and then, and I never did succeed in getting the cruise control to operate, but the air suspension never gave a monent's problem and the biggest repair bill was for the transmission oil cooler after a stone damaged it on the motorway.

The second was a 2004 L322 which was similarly nearly reliable but, on this, the things that went wrong were the big things, like the engine, cooling system and gearbox (ironically, the "supposedly reliable" German bits!).

Basically, I'd advise buying on condition and maintenance history - not a shiny service book with some stamps in it, which is largely worthless, but lots of receipts showing that it has been regularly serviced and that any issues arising from this, or the MOTs, have been sorted.

Deranged Rover

3,359 posts

74 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Deranged Rover said:
I think the answer to the OP is that you never really can tell and it is a bit of a lottery. I've owned two RRs.

The first was a 1994 Classic that I bought when it was 17 years old, that never put a foot wrong in the four and a half years I owned it and which I only sold when too many of the MOT advisories mentioned the word "corrosion"! Obviously there was always something that was prone to falling off, or a button that only worked every now and then, and I never did succeed in getting the cruise control to operate, but the air suspension never gave a monent's problem and the biggest repair bill was for the transmission oil cooler after a stone damaged it on the motorway.

The second was a 2004 L322 which was similarly nearly reliable but, on this, the things that went wrong were the big things, like the engine, cooling system and gearbox (ironically, the "supposedly reliable" German bits!).

Basically, I'd advise buying on condition and maintenance history - not a shiny service book with some stamps in it, which is largely worthless, but lots of receipts showing that it has been regularly serviced and that any issues arising from this, or the MOTs, have been sorted.
But do try one. If you don't, you'll never know what you've been missing.

So

26,271 posts

222 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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Deranged Rover said:
But do try one. If you don't, you'll never know what you've been missing.
I’ve heard Range Rovers described as the heroin of the automotive world. They’re not very good for you, will cause you endless problems but the buyers keep buying because there is nothing that will replace one.


cayman-black

12,641 posts

216 months

Thursday 6th June 2019
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I have had four since 2002 , i loved them all and would not drive any other 4x4 ever! Only ever had three small problems in all those years.

djc206

12,340 posts

125 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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So said:
There is a lot of variation between dealerships. I have now started using a more distant one and they appear to be very good. They act as a far better buffer between manufacturer and customer.
I’m looking at ordering a RRS next week and have done a bit of research about local dealerships as I’m mid way between two. One is known for being absolutely awful and the other superb, guess that makes my decision pretty easy.

So

26,271 posts

222 months

Friday 7th June 2019
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djc206 said:
So said:
There is a lot of variation between dealerships. I have now started using a more distant one and they appear to be very good. They act as a far better buffer between manufacturer and customer.
I’m looking at ordering a RRS next week and have done a bit of research about local dealerships as I’m mid way between two. One is known for being absolutely awful and the other superb, guess that makes my decision pretty easy.
You could buy it from the cheapest one and have it maintained by the better one.