Land Rover PHEV Experience

Land Rover PHEV Experience

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jgrewal

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755 posts

47 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Happy Monday All!

Starting a new topic as couldn't see one anywhere else in the LR section. Just ordered the new Disco Sport PHEV.
Anybody had experience with the Range Rover PHEV models that came out 18 months or so back?

With us doing such low miles in the near future with local driving due working at home and just school drops it made sense to go for this over the petrol. Was a shame could not keep the 7 seats as the batteries take up that row.

This is my first venture into electric so going for a PHEV was a good middle ground so I don't suffer from range anxiety. I am hopeful the advertised 38 miles off one charge is realistic.

Mine is a factory order so won't be here till September and need to organise the charging point (which I have discussed in the EV forum). Probably going for PodPoint at this moment.

Thanks

J

FunkyNige

8,881 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Interested to see how you get on with yours, I picked up a new P200 in December and would've picked the PHEV version it if was available. My next car (3 years or so) will be some kind of plug-in hybrid I imagine and assuming the rest of the time with my Disco Sport is as good as the past 6 months another Disco Sport will be top of the list when I come to change!

jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Thanks for the reply mate and I will keep this thread posted.

I did actually order the P200 and it was delayed by Covid and changed it to the PHEV which the lease company have been very good about. It does feel the like right size SUV for us and fingers crossed we like it too!

Sounds like you happy with it so far and the midlife upgrade looks a much improved car.
Which model variant did you go for? I went for R-Dynamic S which ticks all the boxes in terms of features.

Andeh1

7,108 posts

206 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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An old friend had a bogo spec new disco sport engineering PHEV vehicle from jlr (in a previous life I did a lot of the work at jlr and still like to keep in with that crowd).

I laughed at the motion of a 1.5L engine (I think it is) in a disco sport (a chunky car) but i was REALLY impressed with it. Easy 27 miles on electric, very subtle change over between BEV & ice and very tidy performance when you have a charged battery and it +ICE work together to drag you along.

Over a 50 odd mile journey the average mpg end of the trip was something silly like 100+mpg (this was several weeks ago, so i forget) , where 50% was BEV and the ice engine dragged us home but I would be very interested in the actual running costs if you include a fully charged battery every morning!


jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Andeh1 said:
An old friend had a bogo spec new disco sport engineering PHEV vehicle from jlr (in a previous life I did a lot of the work at jlr and still like to keep in with that crowd).

I laughed at the motion of a 1.5L engine (I think it is) in a disco sport (a chunky car) but i was REALLY impressed with it. Easy 27 miles on electric, very subtle change over between BEV & ice and very tidy performance when you have a charged battery and it +ICE work together to drag you along.

Over a 50 odd mile journey the average mpg end of the trip was something silly like 100+mpg (this was several weeks ago, so i forget) , where 50% was BEV and the ice engine dragged us home but I would be very interested in the actual running costs if you include a fully charged battery every morning!
Nice one and 100mpg on SUV like this would be amazing! It is a 1.5-litre 3cylinder Ingenium engine and then the electric motor on the back. I only do very local miles (like 3000-4000 a year as a family car) so this car will hopefully only be filled up for longer journeys. It seems a nice step into the world for EV and getting used to the technology and get a charging point in place. Hopefully pure EV prices come down a bit because something like an Audi E-Tron or Tesla Model X is still too high for me personally.

FunkyNige

8,881 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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jgrewal said:
Sounds like you happy with it so far and the midlife upgrade looks a much improved car.
Which model variant did you go for? I went for R-Dynamic S which ticks all the boxes in terms of features.
I think the options have swapped around a bit since I got mine, but it's roughly the R-Dynamic SE plus panoramic roof to make it a bit lighter inside, privacy glass for the dogs, 360 cameras as they're awesome and the upgraded stereo as I've always wanted a car with a sub in it hehe
You should be offered half a day at a Land Rover experience centre - make sure you take them up on it as it's a great day out and amazing to see just what they're capable of offroad!


jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Haha a car with a Sub! Wish I could go back to my Golf GTD days where I had a sub at the back smile Sounds like a tidy spec you had there and the Pan roof defo was a good option but could stretch to add it.

Definitely would like to do the LR experience and I am not far from Solihull (when and if they reopen after Covid). Think that part of the car that sounds cool is all the terrain features which I assume we will never use at Sainsbury's or the school drop!

Shrimpvende

858 posts

92 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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I have a P400e RRS. I've only had it since March (leased) but so far I absolutely love it.

My commute is 6 miles each way and I live in the suburbs so only a couple of miles from me into the city centre. I charge it every night and although I've not been commuting much due to lockdown, I can get to work and back twice in EV mode on a full charge. This about half 30/40mph zones and half dual carriageway/NSL single carriageways so a good mix of roads.

If your usage profile fits a PHEV they're great, although if you're mile munching on the motorway you're still better off with a diesel. 80% of my driving is short local trips, prior to Covid I'd also be driving further at weekends to see mates or the odd business trip in the week which is where the PHEV isn't so good. When my battery runs out I get around 32mpg motorway cruising which I still don't think is bad, certainly not for a range rover. My average economy so far after about 1500 miles is around 75mpg, rising to over 80mpg when I've been doing lots of shorter battery only trips. The ICE should also get more efficient as the mileage increases, it's still technically being run in and as I use the electric so much the engine has probably only done 800 miles or so. It's also surprisingly quick, even when the battery runs out for driving in EV only mode there's always enough power to give you a boost for overtaking, so I always have 400bhp available. You really feel the torque of the electric motor and it picks up instantly, even in ICE mode.

I was going to buy a V8 petrol RRS before I found the hybrid option, however I can honestly say I'm glad I went hybrid and think I made the right decision. I'm not really bothered about the economy (my Vantage does 16mpg!) but it really appeals to my inner geek and the electric is so quiet and smooth you can't not love it. When this goes back in 3 years I'd replace it with a full EV RRS if they have one available, as long as the range was sensible.


jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Thats sounds pretty awesome man thanks for the reply! I wish I could afford the p400 but the Disco will be great as my first LR car. For me with miles that we are doing this is logical choice and also satisfies my inner geek. I have taken a 2 year lease on it so hopefully its gives LR and the rest of the car companies time to really embrace EV and bring the prices down. I mean the german manufacturers with the Audi (Etron) and Mercedes (EQ) are still limited to SUV and price is still very high. Also my personal view the infrastructure needs be matured fully for us to having plenty of accessible charging around the UK.

Oh and when you have a Vantage I'm sure any MPG is an upside but this is another level for you lol


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Edited by jgrewal on Monday 15th June 17:30

craig7l

1,135 posts

266 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Can I ask what this car is like if you rely on just petrol alone on a regular basis. (Mpg and performance) I know the point is to charge but lease deals are generally £200 cheaper a month from diesel and that’s a lot of fuel

EdJ

1,284 posts

195 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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craig7l said:
Can I ask what this car is like if you rely on just petrol alone on a regular basis. (Mpg and performance) I know the point is to charge but lease deals are generally £200 cheaper a month from diesel and that’s a lot of fuel
I'd echo what the poster said above in terms of petrol driving. If that's all you're doing, you will be better off with a diesel. On very long journeys (200 miles plus) the mpg drops down to probably just below my old V8 diesel RR.

Since the COVID situation, I've barely done anything more than 20 miles, and as a result I've hardly used petrol at all. It's very satisfying and the technology is so damn good, I'm often amazed how relaxing it is to drive.

VEIGHT

2,362 posts

228 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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I'm looking at this or an Etron but think as I do the odd long journey I'm leaning towards the Discovery.

I have a test drive booked for Wednesday but in the non hybrid model as they are not available in the UK yet I understand? Hope a can get a feel of the car then order.

What sort of lease deals have you got if you don't mind me asking?

djc206

12,340 posts

125 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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craig7l said:
Can I ask what this car is like if you rely on just petrol alone on a regular basis. (Mpg and performance) I know the point is to charge but lease deals are generally £200 cheaper a month from diesel and that’s a lot of fuel
My RRS P400e will do somewhere between 25-28mpg on a decent length journey. Around town using just petrol it’s laughable. I’d say if I ran it on petrol only it’d probably be roughly the same as the V8 mustang it replaced!

I’m sure when I leased mine the diesels weren’t on very good deals, it might have been a tad more expensive but not £200.

jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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VEIGHT said:
I'm looking at this or an Etron but think as I do the odd long journey I'm leaning towards the Discovery.

I have a test drive booked for Wednesday but in the non hybrid model as they are not available in the UK yet I understand? Hope a can get a feel of the car then order.

What sort of lease deals have you got if you don't mind me asking?
£370 month with 12 months upfront for the R Dynamic S P300e for 2 years

VEIGHT

2,362 posts

228 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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jgrewal said:
VEIGHT said:
I'm looking at this or an Etron but think as I do the odd long journey I'm leaning towards the Discovery.

I have a test drive booked for Wednesday but in the non hybrid model as they are not available in the UK yet I understand? Hope a can get a feel of the car then order.

What sort of lease deals have you got if you don't mind me asking?
£370 month with 12 months upfront for the R Dynamic S P300e for 2 years
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to the test drive on Wednesday and will report back! smile

jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Cool keep this thread updated. Mine isn’t arriving till October! Need to sort a charging point before then

G Man

4,053 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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jgrewal said:
Cool keep this thread updated. Mine isn’t arriving till October! Need to sort a charging point before then
Shhh Secret tip !! Octopus Agile tariff and Ohme charger for your electric

jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Thanks a lot dude was looking at Octopus! It was actually my last supplier before I moved recently.

Linkin

145 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Hi OP

I've just ordered an Evoque PHEV (for SWMBO) and a Disco Sport PHEV for myself.
I have a production slot of End September for the Evoque, but evidently my DSport has gone into a 'pending pool' awaiting LR to decide when they're going to build some.
What is your experience of the delivery timescales?

Linkin

jgrewal

Original Poster:

755 posts

47 months

Thursday 23rd July 2020
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Haha had to google SWMBO! Well my order was placed in early June around time they were announced and I was quoted end of Sept/earlyOctober. I don’t even know if they will get it ready by then? I know some JLR folk and they said lines are not fully back up and running to capacity in terms of staffing. I am not overly rushed as surviving with one car since lockdown. However will be nice to have the new one soon!