New FFRR

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Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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shopper150 said:
Phil. said:
Thanks guys. Having some extra security fitted at the moment then off for a decent run tomorrow. It really is a nice place to be, the seats are so comfortable.
What security system(s) would you recommend?
I have a professional tracker which brings down the cost of insurance and a separate ghost-like immobiliser.

shopper150

1,576 posts

193 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Phil. said:
I have a professional tracker which brings down the cost of insurance and a separate ghost-like immobiliser.
Rumours are that Ghost can be bypassed now....

Wheelspinning

1,149 posts

29 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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shopper150 said:
Rumours are that Ghost can be bypassed now....
Well so be it if thats the case.

I don't want any car back thats been stolen and do not have a requirement with my insurer for a tracker so I didn't subscribe to it for either of the cars I have had so far.

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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shopper150 said:
Rumours are that Ghost can be bypassed now....
Mine’s not a ghost, it’s better than a ghost.

Do you have any evidence to support your ‘rumour’ because my security expert who fits a multitude of different devices to very high end vehicles certainly wouldn’t be fitting something that could be bypassed as it would be bad for his business?

Tomanybikes

987 posts

25 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Phil. said:
shopper150 said:
Rumours are that Ghost can be bypassed now....
Mine’s not a ghost, it’s better than a ghost.

Do you have any evidence to support your ‘rumour’ because my security expert who fits a multitude of different devices to very high end vehicles certainly wouldn’t be fitting something that could be bypassed as it would be bad for his business?
There was a Instagram reel by Je_ldn about him upgrading his already good system because of worries about it,

NomduJour

18,982 posts

258 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Wheelspinning said:
I don't want any car back thats been stolen and do not have a requirement with my insurer for a tracker so I didn't subscribe to it for either of the cars I have had so far.
So you haven’t activated the free year’s subscription for the standard S5 tracker?

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Tomanybikes said:
There was a Instagram reel by Je_ldn about him upgrading his already good system because of worries about it,
There is no one on Instagram called ‘Je_ldn’. Do you mean Je_ldnm? He’s London based where insurers are refusing to insure RR’s or hiking premiums massively. I know he has loads of additional security on his Defender but doesn’t disclose what for sensible reasons.

My security expert who’s based in Surrey and works a lot in London explained at the weekend that he has one client paying £5k pa for insurance for his RR and another who is selling because they wouldn’t insure unless he had a garage, which he does but it’s not big enough for the RR.

I’m comfortable that my RR is sufficiently more difficult to nick than one without the extra security, so hopefully the nasty people will go elsewhere. Like the above poster, I don’t really want it back if it’s nicked so preventing it being nicked is my priority.

Tomanybikes

987 posts

25 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Phil. said:
Tomanybikes said:
There was a Instagram reel by Je_ldn about him upgrading his already good system because of worries about it,
There is no one on Instagram called ‘Je_ldn’. Do you mean Je_ldnm? He’s London based where insurers are refusing to insure RR’s or hiking premiums massively. I know he has loads of additional security on his Defender but doesn’t disclose what for sensible reasons.

My security expert who’s based in Surrey and works a lot in London explained at the weekend that he has one client paying £5k pa for insurance for his RR and another who is selling because they wouldn’t insure unless he had a garage, which he does but it’s not big enough for the RR.

I’m comfortable that my RR is sufficiently more difficult to nick than one without the extra security, so hopefully the nasty people will go elsewhere. Like the above poster, I don’t really want it back if it’s nicked so preventing it being nicked is my priority.
Wind your neck in, you knew who I meant! rolleyes

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Tomanybikes said:
Wind your neck in, you knew who I meant! rolleyes
There’s nothing wrong with my reply. You having a bad day Mr Angry?

Tomanybikes

987 posts

25 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Phil. said:
Tomanybikes said:
Wind your neck in, you knew who I meant! rolleyes
There’s nothing wrong with my reply. You having a bad day Mr Angry?
The old joke about FFRR and hedgehogs may be apt in your case. wink

SmithCorona

581 posts

28 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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They won't find out about your top notch immobiliser until they've got in the car, which probably means they have got the keys, which probably means they will have got in your house.

Which probably means let them have it, it's a car.

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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SmithCorona said:
They won't find out about your top notch immobiliser until they've got in the car, which probably means they have got the keys, which probably means they will have got in your house.

Which probably means let them have it, it's a car.
Oh dear. It seems as if this thread is attracting the idiots. Pity but not unexpected.

SmithCorona

581 posts

28 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Thanks for your opinion of me. Which is entirely unnecessary, and childish.

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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SmithCorona said:
Thanks for your opinion of me. Which is entirely unnecessary, and childish.
Do you leave you car keys by your unlocked door so that if anyone breaks into your house they can easily take your car? Perhaps you leave your car unlocked with the keys in to prevent someone breaking in to your house?

What happens in your scenario if someone had my keys and still couldn’t start the car?

SmithCorona

581 posts

28 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Phil. Of course I don't.

My house is well sorted from a prevention and deterrance perspective.

I'd be more inclined to believe your professional security guy's stories of '5k insurance', or 'no garage no cover' if he didn't make a living selling trackers and immobilisers.

If it gets nicked it gets nicked, an immobiliser doesn't prevent the worst part of the ordeal - the invasion of your safe space.

Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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SmithCorona said:
Phil. Of course I don't.

My house is well sorted from a prevention and deterrance perspective.

I'd be more inclined to believe your professional security guy's stories of '5k insurance', or 'no garage no cover' if he didn't make a living selling trackers and immobilisers.

If it gets nicked it gets nicked, an immobiliser doesn't prevent the worst part of the ordeal - the invasion of your safe space.
As you've pointed out, if thieves want your keys they will break in to your house, irrespective of if an immobiliser is fitted. So why are we debating this?

I've been posting on this thread about Range Rovers which is an interest of mine as I'm now on my 7th. I get asked to explain more about the security I'm having fitted, answer factually and then people come on arguing its the wrong thing to do or they don't work. As I've made clear, that's fine. I've made my decision and am comfortable with it but they still want to argue.

If you don't believe my 'professional security guy's stories' please PM me and I'll provide his web site and contact details. I think you'll find he's legit and a very knowledgeable professional not a sales person spouting BS as you suggest.

Wheelspinning

1,149 posts

29 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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It all seems a bit comical for myself.

Adding our Autobiography onto the group policy cost around £400 for the year and as I mentioned before no tracker required and I although I purchased the 3 year tracker I havn't activated it; that was purely for someone requiring it at resale time.

Another car that sits on the drive is way more than double the price and no tracker on that, and that's around £100 more of a premium a year.

Not much in the way of car thefts up our way.

Anyways; Phil...enjoy your new car. It looks lovely.

EdJ

1,284 posts

194 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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adamfawsitt said:
For those with a P440e did you know that you can register for Congestion Charge exemption - amazing (I didn't think that hybrids counted)?
This used to be the case - my L405 hybrid was exempt - but then they changed the rules.

Familymad

617 posts

216 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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£428 for the RRS P400 with NFU and no tracker required. Cheaper than my old Defender to insure !

Tomanybikes

987 posts

25 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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Familymad said:
£428 for the RRS P400 with NFU and no tracker required. Cheaper than my old Defender to insure !
How are you finding that engine?