£5000 per week?

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67Dino

3,583 posts

105 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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Mikedknight said:
DSLiverpool said:
One guy owns 7 barbers offering Turkish cuts, shaved etc - 2 / 3 guys in each, open 7 days, cash only - basic cuts £6 I have a weekly shave at a ridiculous £11 !!! I give £15 usually it’s worth it. Anyhoo based on 50% workload anyone want to do the maths?
A million a year.
Sounds about right to me too. That’s turnover, of course. After salaries, shop rental, utilities etc. he might see a third of that at best, and less if he pays any tax at all.

As the old saying goes: “Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity, cashflow is reality”.

DSLiverpool

14,742 posts

202 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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Deesee said:
Btw DSliverpool a cut & beard trim (plus hot towel) is 19£ down here in the south east!
Liverpool city centre its £20 with a shaver and £25 blade and not as good as the Turkish lsds.

Just for thought, how often to you put yourself in a situation where a total stranger can kill you (Uber excepted).

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
Deesee said:
Btw DSliverpool a cut & beard trim (plus hot towel) is 19£ down here in the south east!
Liverpool city centre its £20 with a shaver and £25 blade and not as good as the Turkish lsds.

Just for thought, how often to you put yourself in a situation where a total stranger can kill you (Uber excepted).
That’s not bad for city centre, with the associated rents/rates etc..


And hehe cut throat then blinded with a hot towel biglaugh

& (edit), my experience with Uber (well In london, it does not work where I live), has been positive so far.. (apart from when a S600 picked us up in Soho one afternoon), we felt like mobsters!


Edited by Deesee on Sunday 2nd February 12:40

Mikedknight

702 posts

93 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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I got it to 22k per week on average. If they do under the counter cigarettes which a few seem to then a bit more.

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

191 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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There are 50 contract roles within 100 miles of London on JobServe paying over £100/hr (the highest option you can select), which is roughly £800/day.

The highest paid is a CTO role in Milton Keynes offering up to £2k per day - so OP could have six months of the year off.

https://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/search-jobs-in-Milt...

smifffymoto

4,552 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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That’s me out of the running,I don’t even know what a CTO is or does.

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

191 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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smifffymoto said:
That’s me out of the running,I don’t even know what a CTO is or does.
Chief Technology Officer

HTH

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

191 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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CzechItOut said:
Chief Technology Officer

HTH
Hope that helps

67Dino

3,583 posts

105 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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smifffymoto said:
That’s me out of the running,I don’t even know what a CTO is or does.
A good CIO (Chief Information Officer) knows which switch to turn on and off when the system goes down. A good CTO (Chief Technology Officer) is someone who builds systems where you don’t need to do that very often, and when you do, it’s easy to find the switch.

Frimley111R

15,661 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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God, got to P4 and realised what a crock of st this thread is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Google says 'about 20% fail in their first year, and about 50% of small businesses fail in their fifth year.'

Not bad odds really. Especially if you keep away from capital intensive ventures.

Deesee

8,420 posts

83 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Funded more than a few McDonald’s and KFC back in the day.

Never had a bad lend circa 20/10 yrs ago, mostly matched funding repaid in 5 yrs.


KFC model was certainly the better IMO.

Still know a few franchisees 10/15+ units, the McDonald’s ones tend to exit earlier.

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Sambucket said:
Google says 'about 20% fail in their first year, and about 50% of small businesses fail in their fifth year.'

Not bad odds really. Especially if you keep away from capital intensive ventures.
I would love to know what the definition of "fail" is. I would hazard a guess it means the company is dissolved. Given the number of threads on business forums where someone registers a limited company without realising the consequences and then closes it within the first year, I can understand those figures.

ecksjay

327 posts

152 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Not having read the full thread, this is an interesting one.
I've recently started my own business. I have been working in the same industry for around 15years (aged 33), have specialised and refined my skills over the years so that I sit in a niche within a niche, whilst also offering wider services that appeal to general clients. My niche is the thing that brings people to me however, the wider more general work is good churn.

I dont buy anything, make anything or have any overheads other than a laptop and what it costs me to travel to where I need to go. This month I'll be invoicing around £8k per week (at last count, I believe it could be higher but I am going to let some of it drift into next month). I've recently left a well paid salaried job to take the jump / risk of doing my own thing, and to say it's gone better than I expected would be an understatement. I am extremely busy however, so spending time with my family is an issue at the moment (4month old son), but hopefully it will be worth it in the long run. My wife has also been made redundant recently, so this was a stressful period.

I'm sure we wont be invoicing circa £8-10k per week every week, but if we do then... well, that's not a bad thing. It is very much possible, in summary, but it is bloody hard work.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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ecksjay said:
Not having read the full thread, this is an interesting one.
I've recently started my own business. I have been working in the same industry for around 15years (aged 33), have specialised and refined my skills over the years so that I sit in a niche within a niche, whilst also offering wider services that appeal to general clients. My niche is the thing that brings people to me however, the wider more general work is good churn.

I dont buy anything, make anything or have any overheads other than a laptop and what it costs me to travel to where I need to go. This month I'll be invoicing around £8k per week (at last count, I believe it could be higher but I am going to let some of it drift into next month). I've recently left a well paid salaried job to take the jump / risk of doing my own thing, and to say it's gone better than I expected would be an understatement. I am extremely busy however, so spending time with my family is an issue at the moment (4month old son), but hopefully it will be worth it in the long run. My wife has also been made redundant recently, so this was a stressful period.

I'm sure we wont be invoicing circa £8-10k per week every week, but if we do then... well, that's not a bad thing. It is very much possible, in summary, but it is bloody hard work.
Do tell more, - what is the niche? IT related?

Stig

11,817 posts

284 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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johnwilliams77 said:
ecksjay said:
Not having read the full thread, this is an interesting one.
I've recently started my own business. I have been working in the same industry for around 15years (aged 33), have specialised and refined my skills over the years so that I sit in a niche within a niche, whilst also offering wider services that appeal to general clients. My niche is the thing that brings people to me however, the wider more general work is good churn.

I dont buy anything, make anything or have any overheads other than a laptop and what it costs me to travel to where I need to go. This month I'll be invoicing around £8k per week (at last count, I believe it could be higher but I am going to let some of it drift into next month). I've recently left a well paid salaried job to take the jump / risk of doing my own thing, and to say it's gone better than I expected would be an understatement. I am extremely busy however, so spending time with my family is an issue at the moment (4month old son), but hopefully it will be worth it in the long run. My wife has also been made redundant recently, so this was a stressful period.

I'm sure we wont be invoicing circa £8-10k per week every week, but if we do then... well, that's not a bad thing. It is very much possible, in summary, but it is bloody hard work.
Do tell more, - what is the niche? IT related?
Assassin? hehe

mx stu

810 posts

223 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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ecksjay said:
Not having read the full thread, this is an interesting one.
I've recently started my own business. I have been working in the same industry for around 15years (aged 33), have specialised and refined my skills over the years so that I sit in a niche within a niche, whilst also offering wider services that appeal to general clients. My niche is the thing that brings people to me however, the wider more general work is good churn.

I dont buy anything, make anything or have any overheads other than a laptop and what it costs me to travel to where I need to go. This month I'll be invoicing around £8k per week (at last count, I believe it could be higher but I am going to let some of it drift into next month). I've recently left a well paid salaried job to take the jump / risk of doing my own thing, and to say it's gone better than I expected would be an understatement. I am extremely busy however, so spending time with my family is an issue at the moment (4month old son), but hopefully it will be worth it in the long run. My wife has also been made redundant recently, so this was a stressful period.

I'm sure we wont be invoicing circa £8-10k per week every week, but if we do then... well, that's not a bad thing. It is very much possible, in summary, but it is bloody hard work.
Great work, well done.

I'm in a broadly similar position having left being an employee with a good salary to effectively take over a business I previously worked in (sandwiched between two stints in different big 4 professional services firms). It's a consultancy business that's been around since the 70's and the other individuals (two fee earners) are nearing the ends of their careers. Whilst I haven't brought the whole business, I did buy about 40% of the issued shares from various parties at a not insignificant amount.

It's plodded along for the last few years with Turnover around £300-£350k. I re-joined last February and we turned over about £550k in 2019. So far this year we're on track to have billed about £150k by the middle of March with no let up on new business and I've recruited one of my former colleagues to help get that up further. To put the turnover figures in context taking out fee earners salaries/ pension/ bonus we have fixed overheads of about £120,000 a year (admin staff/ serviced offices/ data source subscriptions).

Just to echo whats been said before, it's been hard work. Not just for the last year where there has been a lot to sort other than just being able to do 'the job' (i.e. new IT systems, new branding, new website, staff problems) but also the 17 years of work in this industry before that.

DaveH23

3,236 posts

170 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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Whilst I work for a large company we are billed out at £1200 a day for a 6 hours day.

As above a laptop is all we need to do our job. I'd like to think one day I will do this self employed but job security as well as a fantastic pension and other great benefits is what keeps me where I am.


Frimley111R

15,661 posts

234 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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DaveH23 said:
Whilst I work for a large company we are billed out at £1200 a day for a 6 hours day.

As above a laptop is all we need to do our job. I'd like to think one day I will do this self employed but job security as well as a fantastic pension and other great benefits is what keeps me where I am.
A friend of mine is billed out at £10k a day! He's a senior guy in the mining industry and he is often called on to 'officiate' and provide an independent view on disputes worth lots of millions, hence his rate.

ecksjay

327 posts

152 months

Friday 21st February 2020
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DaveH23 said:
Whilst I work for a large company we are billed out at £1200 a day for a 6 hours day.

As above a laptop is all we need to do our job. I'd like to think one day I will do this self employed but job security as well as a fantastic pension and other great benefits is what keeps me where I am.
Yeah that's generally how things worked for me. Now i'm on my own my day rate is ranging from £650 per day (for a framework i've signed up to, allows for 1 day a week which basically covers bills), up to in excess of £1500 per day where feasible. I have had it up to £3000 per day on occasions, if i'm able to get in and out and turn around the report on the same day. Need to be flexible to suit client requirements, it does make things much different when all that money is yours though (albeit with the associated tax implications that i'm currently getting my head around).