Apprentice safe extraction

Apprentice safe extraction

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sickrabbit

Original Poster:

358 posts

142 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Ladies and Gentleman - we have a verdict - we will see ROCKY through to the end of his 'sentence' and allow him to happily finish he's course and hopefully, he passes his exams and the release him back to the wild!

This will not only spare us the tormoil of dealing with angry Rocky angry Rocky's parent's tutors and girlfriends but also saves us filling tons of papers or risk of facing fines of the multitude. Hopefully - Rocky will start to train again and wins the unfair fight with reality! Viva la education system!

  • some of the sarcasm might have been intentional

NoIP

559 posts

84 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Give ACAS a ring on Monday if you want to be 100% sure on what you can and can't do. They deal with this kind of thing all the time and when I dealt with them many many years ago they were superb.

Also if you do some further reading on that 2nd link I posted it mentions there are different types of apprentice contract. If you have the 'other' one you have more rights and options to remove him before the end of his contract. You need to look at the specific title wording of the contract to see which one you have.

Is the apprentice with you directly or via an agency/middleman? Generally if there's an agency/middleman involved you just get on the bell to them, tell them he's useless and they sort it out for you. You don't have that option if he's direct though.

Kermit power

28,643 posts

213 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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Poisson96 said:
I too work for a very small firm and believe apprentices should never go to a small firms ever.
You're not the first person on the thread to have said that, and I find it really surprising. There's a tradition of apprenticeships in this country going back hundreds of years with people being apprenticed to small businesses or sole traders, so has something changed?

Would it actually be better in many cases if the mentor (is there a specific work for a person who manages an apprentice?) were allowed to simply teach their apprentice the skills of their trade as traditionally happened without having to worry about it all being fitted in with colleges, day release and so on?

The whole day release thing has always struck me as a little odd anyway. "On four days of the week, you're going to be working side by side with someone who has 20 years of hands on experience doing the role you're training for. On the 5th day, you're going to come and learn about it in theory in a college!"

Dan_M5

615 posts

143 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Just make him redundant an apprentice sign makers job is now redundant

craigjm

17,951 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th July 2017
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Dan_M5 said:
Just make him redundant an apprentice sign makers job is now redundant
How do you do that legally without ending up at a tribunal and with a big hole in your pocket?