Credit card fraud, goods now on ebay!
Discussion
We had a few items purchased via our web-shop, which turned out to be via a stolen credit card all being delivered to a rental flat in Birmingham.
The same items have just appeared on an Ebay shop, with the seller also having an address in Birmingham. We know they are ours as they are totally unique products.
We will call the police again but just wondered what others might do or have any experience of this, even though this is blatant the authorities don't really seem to care much when we talk to them.
With billions of pounds of goods stolen in this way each year you would have though something could be done by now?
The same items have just appeared on an Ebay shop, with the seller also having an address in Birmingham. We know they are ours as they are totally unique products.
We will call the police again but just wondered what others might do or have any experience of this, even though this is blatant the authorities don't really seem to care much when we talk to them.
With billions of pounds of goods stolen in this way each year you would have though something could be done by now?
The police will not be interested, they will advise you report it to action fraud blah blah blah.
I have friend who runs a business that is constantly tried with stolen credit cards. He has been stung a few times. The original card owner gets their money back and the businesses are expected to pick up the bill.
Best idea is to buy the items and collect them. Remember to take a golf club with you to pick them up.
I have friend who runs a business that is constantly tried with stolen credit cards. He has been stung a few times. The original card owner gets their money back and the businesses are expected to pick up the bill.
Best idea is to buy the items and collect them. Remember to take a golf club with you to pick them up.
sgrimshaw said:
Defcon5 said:
Buy them, use paypal, say they never arrived to get a refund
Genius 
So simple, so sweet
If they are sent tracked, claim the items are faulty or not as described and when PayPal ask you to send the items back, send an empty (tracked) box. They sign for the box - you have proof of return
email response from the police:
– I am in the process of attempting to get the local force to investigate several matters; yours included. This is not proving currently very successful, as their argument is that the enquiries are all elsewhere and the organisational UK agreements were that the local force to the enquiries would deal. I have no influence over them. In addition I have been on leave and catching up. I have your details and confirm they are being looked at.
Regards xyz
– I am in the process of attempting to get the local force to investigate several matters; yours included. This is not proving currently very successful, as their argument is that the enquiries are all elsewhere and the organisational UK agreements were that the local force to the enquiries would deal. I have no influence over them. In addition I have been on leave and catching up. I have your details and confirm they are being looked at.
Regards xyz
BGARK said:
email response from the police:
– I am in the process of attempting to get the local force to investigate several matters; yours included. This is not proving currently very successful, as their argument is that the enquiries are all elsewhere and the organisational UK agreements were that the local force to the enquiries would deal. I have no influence over them. In addition I have been on leave and catching up. I have your details and confirm they are being looked at.
Regards xyz
The police are a completely useless especially these days you would get more help from a security guard in Adsa. Last month I had someone threaten to murder my children (he was annoyed I would not do biz with his son) and the police said it was not serious enough to do much about even though I had emails, voicemails etc with direct threats. I then went went 250 miles to his local police station ( on the advice of my local station ) only to be told they could do nothing as I need to report it in my home town.– I am in the process of attempting to get the local force to investigate several matters; yours included. This is not proving currently very successful, as their argument is that the enquiries are all elsewhere and the organisational UK agreements were that the local force to the enquiries would deal. I have no influence over them. In addition I have been on leave and catching up. I have your details and confirm they are being looked at.
Regards xyz
Went back to my local station and they said i I don't look like the sort of guy who should be intimidated and just to wait and see what happens.
The problem got sorted using an independent contractor
uber said:
The police are a completely useless especially these days you would get more help from a security guard in Adsa. Last month I had someone threaten to murder my children (he was annoyed I would not do biz with his son) and the police said it was not serious enough to do much about even though I had emails, voicemails etc with direct threats. I then went went 250 miles to his local police station ( on the advice of my local station ) only to be told they could do nothing as I need to report it in my home town.
Went back to my local station and they said i I don't look like the sort of guy who should be intimidated and just to wait and see what happens.
The problem got sorted using an independent contractor
In the State of NJ this would be classed as "terroristic threats" and is taken incredibly seriously. I had an employee tell a person he was going to kill them and he ended up in court and with him having criminal record.Went back to my local station and they said i I don't look like the sort of guy who should be intimidated and just to wait and see what happens.
The problem got sorted using an independent contractor
Agreed, Action Fraud useless and Police useless.
My PayPal account was hacked and somebody in London ordered a £700 laptop from a popular electrical website.
I phoned the website and they said they would cancel the order, they didn't and the next day I got a text from DPD.
Luckily with DPD you can hold the delivery, so I changed he delivery date way ahead.
I contacted the website and PayPal and got my money back eventually, and then they allowed DPD to deliver the parcel the next day anyway, the online tracking showing a picture of a laptop left 'securely' in a flat doorway.
The next day I get a call from an anonymous number claiming to be a neighbour at the delivery address , and wanting to know my address which sounded a bit odd considering the parcel has the delivery address on it so I just said I've called the police and hung up.
Yes, I did get my money back but only after a lot of hassle. It really got to me that somebody received a laptop dishonestly.
Police weren't interested, so I filed a report with Action Fraud and didn't hear anything since.
Ideally I hope the delivery address is flagged up, but then again, you can get a bedsit for £50/week and just buy all sorts and move on! The police need to make a few examples out of people like this.
My PayPal account was hacked and somebody in London ordered a £700 laptop from a popular electrical website.
I phoned the website and they said they would cancel the order, they didn't and the next day I got a text from DPD.
Luckily with DPD you can hold the delivery, so I changed he delivery date way ahead.
I contacted the website and PayPal and got my money back eventually, and then they allowed DPD to deliver the parcel the next day anyway, the online tracking showing a picture of a laptop left 'securely' in a flat doorway.
The next day I get a call from an anonymous number claiming to be a neighbour at the delivery address , and wanting to know my address which sounded a bit odd considering the parcel has the delivery address on it so I just said I've called the police and hung up.
Yes, I did get my money back but only after a lot of hassle. It really got to me that somebody received a laptop dishonestly.
Police weren't interested, so I filed a report with Action Fraud and didn't hear anything since.
Ideally I hope the delivery address is flagged up, but then again, you can get a bedsit for £50/week and just buy all sorts and move on! The police need to make a few examples out of people like this.
uber said:
The police are a completely useless especially these days you would get more help from a security guard in Adsa. Last month I had someone threaten to murder my children (he was annoyed I would not do biz with his son) and the police said it was not serious enough to do much about even though I had emails, voicemails etc with direct threats. I then went went 250 miles to his local police station ( on the advice of my local station ) only to be told they could do nothing as I need to report it in my home town.
Went back to my local station and they said i I don't look like the sort of guy who should be intimidated and just to wait and see what happens.
The problem got sorted using an independent contractor
You should have just told them that he hurt your feelings and made a sexist/racist/homophobic/transphobic/Islamophobic/delete as applicable comment about you. The best part is that hate crimes require not one shred of evidence on your part!Went back to my local station and they said i I don't look like the sort of guy who should be intimidated and just to wait and see what happens.
The problem got sorted using an independent contractor
He would have been banged up for life if the Wail is to be believed.
BGARK said:
email response from the police:
– I am in the process of attempting to get the local force to investigate several matters; yours included. This is not proving currently very successful, as their argument is that the enquiries are all elsewhere and the organisational UK agreements were that the local force to the enquiries would deal. I have no influence over them. In addition I have been on leave and catching up. I have your details and confirm they are being looked at.
Regards xyz
They really struggle working with other forces. A few (well quite a few) years ago someone swipped my PDA from it's holder on the windscreen. I had not taken it out as my wife was still in the car... Scroate just opened the door and was off with it, saying sorry love I'm having that....– I am in the process of attempting to get the local force to investigate several matters; yours included. This is not proving currently very successful, as their argument is that the enquiries are all elsewhere and the organisational UK agreements were that the local force to the enquiries would deal. I have no influence over them. In addition I have been on leave and catching up. I have your details and confirm they are being looked at.
Regards xyz
They caught him and wanted my wife to ID him. They put the effort in and arranged to meet my wife at Doncaster Police Station to show her a video ID packet. My wife waited for 45 minutes after announcing herself to the front desk. No sigh of officer. He in turn apparently was inside waiting for her....
Obviously the sensible thing to have done was to have rung her mobile. She of course had it in her handbag...
Can you Pm me the name of the shop please.
I had exactly the same thing, it went to a shop in Birmingham also....
Action Fraud have done nothing.
I bought the item back but can't get eBay to refund me and can't do anything via PayPal!
You have to do an ebay return, but I wouldn't send it back obviously so the return closed and now I can't do anything about it.
I had exactly the same thing, it went to a shop in Birmingham also....
Action Fraud have done nothing.
I bought the item back but can't get eBay to refund me and can't do anything via PayPal!
You have to do an ebay return, but I wouldn't send it back obviously so the return closed and now I can't do anything about it.
MrSparks said:
I bought the item back but can't get eBay to refund me and can't do anything via PayPal!
You have to do an ebay return, but I wouldn't send it back obviously so the return closed and now I can't do anything about it.
Can you please explain what you mean by "can't do anything via PayPal"?You have to do an ebay return, but I wouldn't send it back obviously so the return closed and now I can't do anything about it.
You can.
Raise a PayPal dispute. Say it's not as advertised. Agree to send it back. Send back a (tracked) empty box. You have proof of post... Job done.
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