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T40ORA

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5,177 posts

218 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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This might be posted in the wrong place, but I'm looking for guidance on a company load-lugger.

I'm starting a new, additional, business, and want/need a vehicle capable of lugging about 500kg - so a payload of around 600kg, I guess.

I don't want a van, and I know that a vehicle with a total payload of 1000kg, such as a twin cab,can be classified as commercial, and I get the associated benefits whilst having a sensible 4 or 5 seater tool. I may work up to this, but I don't fancy anything quite that big yet.

So I'm looking at useful 4x4 with adequate payload - and I know they won't be classed as commercial. I'm happy with that, as I would use the vehicle for private purposes too, so don't expect a free ride as it were.

The question is, are there any taxation benefits, or options I can take advantage of, if I logo up the vehicle? I'm probably going to do that anyway, but just wondered if I get anything tangible in return.

I'm guessing not, as so far I've come across nothing relating to this on the HMRC site, but thought it worth asking of people that already are in such a situation.

Cheers, all.

Sixpackpert

4,538 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Commercial Land Rover Discovery with rear bench seat conversion.

All the benefits of a commercial vehicle.

Just sold my one, sorry.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Don't know about the logo thing. I'm thinking no benefit or you'd see zillions of cars logod up.

Ford Ranger is a good shout for tax purposes & is a fine tool to boot.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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...but as you say, tax is not the be all & end all

andyb28

761 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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What about a Defender? They are classed as commercial.

Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Dacia Duster Commercial

I imagine you could even fit rear seats. HMRC call it a van.

SS2.

14,455 posts

237 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Dacia Duster Commercial

I imagine you could even fit rear seats. HMRC call it a van.
That almost certainly wouldn't be the case if you were to put rear seats in it.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Dacia Duster Commercial

I imagine you could even fit rear seats. HMRC call it a van.
Not sure I would want to carry 500kg in a vehicle with a maximum payload of 550kg...

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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plasticpig said:
Toaster Pilot said:
Dacia Duster Commercial

I imagine you could even fit rear seats. HMRC call it a van.
Not sure I would want to carry 500kg in a vehicle with a maximum payload of 550kg...
How weird! The rear windows are still present, just covered in film. At least it won't be subject to reduced speed limits (presumably)

Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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plasticpig said:
Not sure I would want to carry 500kg in a vehicle with a maximum payload of 550kg...
Not going to be much different to carrying it in a vehicle with a max payload of just 50kg more is it?


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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What's not to like here


plasticpig

12,932 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Not going to be much different to carrying it in a vehicle with a max payload of just 50kg more is it?
confused A Discovery 3/4 commercial max payload is 657kg. A Defender is anywhere between 657kg and 1,655kg.




Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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plasticpig said:
confused A Discovery 3/4 commercial max payload is 657kg. A Defender is anywhere between 657kg and 1,655kg.
The OP said he wanted a vehicle with a payload of around 600kg

plasticpig

12,932 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th November 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
The OP said he wanted a vehicle with a payload of around 600kg
Ah OK. My comment still stands though. I would want a bit more breathing room than 50kg.


T40ORA

Original Poster:

5,177 posts

218 months

Friday 10th November 2017
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OK Guys, thanks. Looks like the branding up of a non-commercial is no benefit.

The twin-cabs are on the list to look at, but (a) I'm more used to driving smaller vehicles, so it will have to be another purchase rather than a replacement for my daily hack, and (b) I'm finding it difficult to justify to myself the cost of a half decent example.

I do rather fancy a Ranger, nevertheless....

KevinCamaroSS

11,553 posts

279 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
What's not to like here

Erm,price and ride quality come to mind.

Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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Sorry OP I got distracted with car recommendations from your original question - branding has no benefit in terms of taxation apart from being able to claim the cost as a business expense

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,230 posts

234 months

Monday 13th November 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
What's not to like here

Erm,price and ride quality come to mind.
Don't know what his budget is, but ride quality is superb. Bouncy bone shakers are a thing of the past.

(this is my truck, and I love it!!)

hast2

165 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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What sort of dimensions is the load you are looking to carry?

What about a Ford Galaxy? Fold all the seats down and you have a van that can carry around 700kg+, then fold all the seats up for a practical family car. It'll drive better than a Defender too (as long as you don't intend going through fields or forests smile )

SS2.

14,455 posts

237 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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hast2 said:
What about a Ford Galaxy? Fold all the seats down and you have a van that can carry around 700kg+, then fold all the seats up for a practical family car. It'll drive better than a Defender too (as long as you don't intend going through fields or forests smile )
Unfortunately, the Galaxy isn't classified as a commercial vehicle which I think is one of the OP's pre-requisites.