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T40ORA

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5,177 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Toaster Pilot said:
Sorry OP I got distracted with car recommendations from your original question - branding has no benefit in terms of taxation apart from being able to claim the cost as a business expense
OK, ta. I'll be doing it anyway, but it won't affect my choice of 'car'.


T40ORA

Original Poster:

5,177 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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SS2. said:
Unfortunately, the Galaxy isn't classified as a commercial vehicle which I think is one of the OP's pre-requisites.
I'm a bit vague, 'either-or' in requirements.

Ideally I'd like commercial, due to the tax incentives, but as it's my first foray in bigger motors, I also would like something more usable as a daily hack.

Looks like the two will be mutually exclusive; so it's either a twincab, with the commercial vehicle benefits, or a robust 4x4 that will give me a comfortable 500kg usable payload. I do want 4 wheel drive capabilities, as if I'm buying a work horse I'd like to take the opportunity of getting something that will help me with some leisure activities that include parking in pretty crappy and muddy fields, and tracks with more potholes than a WW1 battlefield!

Someone mentioned budget; as this is a new venture I'm going to limit myself to £5k initially. I think that will exclude a twincab, so it will be a good, used, 4x4 of some sort. It doesn't need to be that comfortable (I drive a TVR for fun, after all biggrin ) so I'm thinking Land cruiser, Pajero/Shogun, or something similar.

After 6 - 12 months of trading, if things go well, I''ll reconsider the twincab. I've driven an L200 a couple of times, down to Switzerland on ski holidays, and got on well with it. I'm just not sure I want to go straight to that from a Golf, when there is still the chance I'll be driving in urban, built up, city areas. I WILL take off bits of my car, and others', initially, in a city!

And being a stalwart member of PH ..... I need to keep reminding myself that the vehicle purchase bit of my venture IS OF SECONDARY IMPORTANCE! I really mustn't get carried away....

djone101

943 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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I'd take a look at Nissan Pathfinders - I use one as a work and leisure do everything car - tows up to 3t - big space with all the seats down and goes anywhere.

j4ckos mate

3,013 posts

170 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Berlingos have three seats i the front,

can be useful

Shnozz

27,472 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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I know of a certain PHer that found one of only two ever made LR special order Evoque "vans". Basically a 3 door evoque with no rear seats.

The amount of business owner mates I have searching for the second one..

KevinCamaroSS

11,628 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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djone101 said:
I'd take a look at Nissan Pathfinders - I use one as a work and leisure do everything car - tows up to 3t - big space with all the seats down and goes anywhere.
I have heard that Pathfinders have a chassis cracking issue. I would look at the Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD WK. Could get a 2006ish in budget.

rustyuk

4,578 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Tuesday 14th November 2017
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Don't think you can go too wrong with a Defender

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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rustyuk said:
Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.
....apart from the millions of crew cab commercial vehicles hehe

Dicky Knee

1,029 posts

131 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Toyota Hilux. Single cab, dual cab, tough and relatively cheap to run.

djone101

943 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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KevinCamaroSS said:
djone101 said:
I'd take a look at Nissan Pathfinders - I use one as a work and leisure do everything car - tows up to 3t - big space with all the seats down and goes anywhere.
I have heard that Pathfinders have a chassis cracking issue. I would look at the Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD WK. Could get a 2006ish in budget.
I think that's a Navara (Pick-up) issue - I've never had a problem on a Pathfinder. Current one has 88,000 miles and still going strong.

rustyuk

4,578 posts

211 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
rustyuk said:
Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.
....apart from the millions of crew cab commercial vehicles hehe
You still pay BIK on a crew cab...

Sixpackpert

4,557 posts

214 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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rustyuk said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
rustyuk said:
Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.
....apart from the millions of crew cab commercial vehicles hehe
You still pay BIK on a crew cab...
You still pay BIK on the Range Rover...

I think what 2SB was getting at was your sweeping statement about anything with rear seats won't be classed as a commercial vehicle, which is incorrect. All double cab and crew cab pickups have rear seats and are commercial vehicles, hence their popularity.

LouD86

3,279 posts

153 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Range Rover Evoque as mentioned above, no idea on payload, but Nene should help advise?

http://www.neneoverland.co.uk/commercial/#!


Autopilot

1,298 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Sixpackpert said:
rustyuk said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
rustyuk said:
Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.
....apart from the millions of crew cab commercial vehicles hehe
You still pay BIK on a crew cab...
You still pay BIK on the Range Rover...

I think what 2SB was getting at was your sweeping statement about anything with rear seats won't be classed as a commercial vehicle, which is incorrect. All double cab and crew cab pickups have rear seats and are commercial vehicles, hence their popularity.
You won't pay BIK if you don't use it for personal use and is solely used for business and incidental personal use.

It's not true that all double cab pickups are commercial vehicles. To be classified as commercial it must be able to carry over 1000kgs. If you have a hard top fitted, it's given a generic weight value of 45kgs, so this value must be taken in to account. If your double cab pickup can carry 1010kgs, the payload is now less than 1000kgs as you're carrying 45kgs of hardtop and you're now subject to company car tax.

This only applies to double cab pickups as standard cabs are obviously intended for carrying goods and not people where as the double cabs raise the question, 'is its primary purpose for carrying people or goods'?

As manufacturers build the vehicles to certain specifications, I'd be surprised if any modern double cabs would throw any doubt in to the equation. If in doubt, ask the manufacturer.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Sixpackpert said:
rustyuk said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
rustyuk said:
Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.
....apart from the millions of crew cab commercial vehicles hehe
You still pay BIK on a crew cab...
You still pay BIK on the Range Rover...

I think what 2SB was getting at was your sweeping statement about anything with rear seats won't be classed as a commercial vehicle, which is incorrect. All double cab and crew cab pickups have rear seats and are commercial vehicles, hence their popularity.
yes that's exactly what I was getting at

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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rustyuk said:
Anything with rear seats won't be classed as commercial.

The Range Rover was the only viable proposition when I was looking.
I've a sneaking suspicion this might be a commercial biggrin


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Actually, the thread just got me looking at crew cab commercials.

How's this for a weird looking thing?


aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I've a sneaking suspicion this might be a commercial biggrin

4 doors, it's pretty much a CLS biggrin

Nicmenicnic

59 posts

119 months

Friday 17th November 2017
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VW transporter Kombi 4x4 perfect smile