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Been thinking of purchasing a vinyl printing machine for my current business for a line of products, but to get more use out of it I’ve been looking into printing brand logo stickers to sell - Porsche, Renaultsport, Brembo etc.
Whats the legalities / copyright issues with doing this? Do the manufactures not care or think it’s worth fighting?
Whats the legalities / copyright issues with doing this? Do the manufactures not care or think it’s worth fighting?
I suspect they don't have the time to keep chasing tiny companies selling a few logos, there's tons on eBay doing it. They certainly won't bother with using up their expensive legal resources on it unless you're a really big supplier. I'd say, go for it and see, you might be able to design your own stickers in time too.
Frimley111R said:
I suspect they don't have the time to keep chasing tiny companies selling a few logos, there's tons on eBay doing it. They certainly won't bother with using up their expensive legal resources on it unless you're a really big supplier. I'd say, go for it and see, you might be able to design your own stickers in time too.
There is a small claims track (up to £10K) for copyright infringement now, so they don't need expensive legal resources to shut you down.Note that it can be a criminal offence also. These guys were given suspended jail sentences, not for supplying illegal number plates, but for using the logos of car manufacturers on them without permission. https://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/suspended-pris...
Yeh it's not the done thing really.
As others have said, its a bit of a gamble and you may get away with it for a while/forever. But bit of a delboy way to make money if you ask me.
I have a fair bit of experience plotting and applying vinyl and garment graphics, it was my day job for around 10 years.
What sort of merch do you have in mind? Vinyl is not really the most efficient way of doing things for most applications, better for bespoke stuff really.
Also, do you have good experience with vector graphics and design software such as Adobe Illustrator / Coral Draw? There's a fair bit of setup required before you can click 'Go' and start plotting, even simple graphics can cause problems if the artwork isn't setup or traced correctly.
Just a few things to bare in mind!
As others have said, its a bit of a gamble and you may get away with it for a while/forever. But bit of a delboy way to make money if you ask me.
I have a fair bit of experience plotting and applying vinyl and garment graphics, it was my day job for around 10 years.
What sort of merch do you have in mind? Vinyl is not really the most efficient way of doing things for most applications, better for bespoke stuff really.
Also, do you have good experience with vector graphics and design software such as Adobe Illustrator / Coral Draw? There's a fair bit of setup required before you can click 'Go' and start plotting, even simple graphics can cause problems if the artwork isn't setup or traced correctly.
Just a few things to bare in mind!
This is the sort of thing that gained my interest with the logo printing - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231605239309 - Nearly £3k of sales through that listing alone, times that by 50 or so listings and you've got a nice little side earner. But as has been said its dodgy territory, so probably a non starter.
Just basic number stickers for different Motorsport applications. Only variation between them would be background and number colour.
I have minimal experience with design software but could get the help if needed - would even this fairly simple design be difficult to execute?
If you had any recommendations for a decent but basic machine too that'd be appreciated!
TheBogFlogger said:
Out of interest, which vinyl cutting machine are you looking at? Thinking of buying too.
My research hasn't quite got to that stage yet Kewy said:
Yeh it's not the done thing really.
As others have said, its a bit of a gamble and you may get away with it for a while/forever. But bit of a delboy way to make money if you ask me.
I have a fair bit of experience plotting and applying vinyl and garment graphics, it was my day job for around 10 years.
What sort of merch do you have in mind? Vinyl is not really the most efficient way of doing things for most applications, better for bespoke stuff really.
Also, do you have good experience with vector graphics and design software such as Adobe Illustrator / Coral Draw? There's a fair bit of setup required before you can click 'Go' and start plotting, even simple graphics can cause problems if the artwork isn't setup or traced correctly.
Just a few things to bare in mind!
This is the sort of thing I'd initially be looking to print - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130844252588As others have said, its a bit of a gamble and you may get away with it for a while/forever. But bit of a delboy way to make money if you ask me.
I have a fair bit of experience plotting and applying vinyl and garment graphics, it was my day job for around 10 years.
What sort of merch do you have in mind? Vinyl is not really the most efficient way of doing things for most applications, better for bespoke stuff really.
Also, do you have good experience with vector graphics and design software such as Adobe Illustrator / Coral Draw? There's a fair bit of setup required before you can click 'Go' and start plotting, even simple graphics can cause problems if the artwork isn't setup or traced correctly.
Just a few things to bare in mind!
Just basic number stickers for different Motorsport applications. Only variation between them would be background and number colour.
I have minimal experience with design software but could get the help if needed - would even this fairly simple design be difficult to execute?
If you had any recommendations for a decent but basic machine too that'd be appreciated!
Poseidon said:
This is the sort of thing I'd initially be looking to print - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130844252588
Just basic number stickers for different Motorsport applications. Only variation between them would be background and number colour.
I have minimal experience with design software but could get the help if needed - would even this fairly simple design be difficult to execute?
If you had any recommendations for a decent but basic machine too that'd be appreciated!
I've been out the game for so long now that I'm not even sure what the latest kits is. We used to always use Roland units. First plotter was a Roland Camm-1 and I can't remember the model number of the latest one we had before I moved on. Worth checking out the Roland range though.Just basic number stickers for different Motorsport applications. Only variation between them would be background and number colour.
I have minimal experience with design software but could get the help if needed - would even this fairly simple design be difficult to execute?
If you had any recommendations for a decent but basic machine too that'd be appreciated!
So the link you have posted isn't plotted vinyl, it's printed vinyl. With plotted vinyl only you could cut a number 4 out of a black rectangle (thus the show through would be whatever colour medium you apply it to), but you couldn't really do that logo at the bottom, would be a bit fiddly to weed especially in mass.
By the sounds of it you're wanted to sell high quantity at low prices, just need to remember that you'll need to physically 'weed' all of those designs and the more fiddly you make them the longer that process is going to take.
Poseidon said:
This is the sort of thing that gained my interest with the logo printing - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231605239309 - Nearly £3k of sales through that listing alone, times that by 50 or so listings and you've got a nice little side earner. But as has been said its dodgy territory, so probably a non starter.
Given the claims on his website that he's the leading supplier of 'karting graphics' and he's an ex kart driver it's possible he's got the correct licensing to do that. As an aside, I was on 'community payback' about 8 years ago with a bloke who owned a printing company who'd received more hours than I had after Trading Standards sent someone in asking him to print up some T Shirts with Disney characters on.
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