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Had a weird letter from HMRC asking us to either pay back an error in our CJRS OR confirm that our CJRS is correct?
Anyone else had one?
It does not tell us what's wrong or how much they allege that we owe them?
It just weird as we only have 1 person on CJRS and nothing has changed so I dont see how there can be a problem?
Nothing difficult or complicated about our claim so its very strange to have got this letter - I assume its genuine!
Anyone else had one?
It does not tell us what's wrong or how much they allege that we owe them?
It just weird as we only have 1 person on CJRS and nothing has changed so I dont see how there can be a problem?
Nothing difficult or complicated about our claim so its very strange to have got this letter - I assume its genuine!
Looking at that, I would suggest that it is genuine. Every time a payroll is run, whether weekly or monthly, the full details of gross salary for each director and employee are submitted to HMRC. They therefore already have the underlying salary and personnel information which should relate directly back to the individual CJRS claims that were subsequently made for each month.
It looks to me that they have spotted an anomaly between the Gross Salary/personnel details submitted and the related CJRS claims and are asking the employer to go back and review the calculations. If the employer finds that they overclaimed, this is the opportunity to repay the overpaid amount without to much punishment from HMRC.
If the employer does not find any errors or argues that their CJRS claims were all correct, HMRC will then set out in more detail where they think the problems are and start recovery procedures - and possibly prosecution procedures too, if they feel that the overclaim was deliberate, reckless or fraudulent.
It looks to me that they have spotted an anomaly between the Gross Salary/personnel details submitted and the related CJRS claims and are asking the employer to go back and review the calculations. If the employer finds that they overclaimed, this is the opportunity to repay the overpaid amount without to much punishment from HMRC.
If the employer does not find any errors or argues that their CJRS claims were all correct, HMRC will then set out in more detail where they think the problems are and start recovery procedures - and possibly prosecution procedures too, if they feel that the overclaim was deliberate, reckless or fraudulent.
I dont personally do the claim, but I know its just 80% of their wage. We have to cover tax and NIC etc. We have checked the paperwork and as far as we can tell everything is correct.
Its a very simple set up - the persons salary is exactly the same each month and they have been on CJRS since November.
In fact we were looking at bringing them back in as we are finally getting some decent weather! Sods law that we probably messed something up along the way? Who knows. I guess they are going to have to provide more info.
Its a very simple set up - the persons salary is exactly the same each month and they have been on CJRS since November.
In fact we were looking at bringing them back in as we are finally getting some decent weather! Sods law that we probably messed something up along the way? Who knows. I guess they are going to have to provide more info.
AIUI there is a lot of Counter fraud work going on by Central Government in relation to CJRS. CBILS, SEISS and the umpteen other grants that were given out over the last 15 months, with one area of focus being Companies that double claimed from different parts of Government for the same costs.
My complete guess is that they are sample-checking claimants and as a first step they want to make sure the claimants are fully aware of the rules and can't claim ignorance later on if HMRC find something.
My complete guess is that they are sample-checking claimants and as a first step they want to make sure the claimants are fully aware of the rules and can't claim ignorance later on if HMRC find something.
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