eBay Scrapping Private Seller Fees
Discussion
Furbo said:
The clue is in "if I want to pay £17000 for something" 
I.e. to take account of what Ebay will add on.
eBay are pretty clear what you are going to end up paying. The clue is in the amount they say they are going to charge you before you click "Ok". If it's not exactly £17k then edit your offer. I.e. to take account of what Ebay will add on.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Furbo said:
The clue is in "if I want to pay £17000 for something"
I.e. to take account of what Ebay will add on.
eBay are pretty clear what you are going to end up paying. The clue is in the amount they say they are going to charge you before you click "Ok". If it's not exactly £17k then edit your offer. I.e. to take account of what Ebay will add on.
So that's what I want to end up paying, less postage.
The buyer protection fee, it seems to me therefore, is paid by the seller.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Furbo said:
The buyer protection fee, it seems to me therefore, is paid by the seller.
Which is exactly what we've been saying for the entirety of the thread. Buyers lower what they offer in order to offset the fee, therefore the seller ends up effectively paying it.I didn't deduct the protection fee at all. Just the postage. So either the seller is paying it or Ebay is. I didn't lower my offer.
CorradoTDI said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Furbo said:
Nope.
I didn't deduct the protection fee at all. Just the postage. So either the seller is paying it or Ebay is. I didn't lower my offer.
Ok. I didn't deduct the protection fee at all. Just the postage. So either the seller is paying it or Ebay is. I didn't lower my offer.
ing clusterfk. They have no idea at all what they are doing.I bought an iPhone for my daughter, she wanted to confirm what I'd paid
I'd made an offer and couldn't remember. So checked by looking at the original listing, it gave me one price which didn't look right
Then I looked at my purchases and it gave me a second price which also didn't look right
In the end the only way I could actually tell what I'd paid - neither of the above prices - was to look at my credit card statement
I think trading standards should be interested because I've been on ebay since it started. I've bought thousands of items and even I haven't got a clue what's going on half the time now
I'd made an offer and couldn't remember. So checked by looking at the original listing, it gave me one price which didn't look right
Then I looked at my purchases and it gave me a second price which also didn't look right
In the end the only way I could actually tell what I'd paid - neither of the above prices - was to look at my credit card statement
I think trading standards should be interested because I've been on ebay since it started. I've bought thousands of items and even I haven't got a clue what's going on half the time now
My wife buys and sells on Vinted, which also uses a Buyer Fee. She showed me their interface. The crucial difference from eBay is that Vinted shows you both the price without fee and the price with fee, at every stage… when you’re making an offer, reviewing an offer, buying, whatever. If eBay did this, it would be much more transparent. I sometimes get an offer from a buyer and can’t see what price I listed the thing at.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
Just in case this helps anyone...
So the corollary to this if you make an offer as a Buyer, the fee is added onto your offer.
edit: Further confirmation
I think it's ever so slightly the other way, in that the buyer makes an offer (lets say £33 in this case) and ebay automatically deducts the BPF so what you see is what you get, not what they offered per se. What a buyer sees/bids is always higher than what you see as your actual earnings, and that nice chunky cut goes to the greedy bSo the corollary to this if you make an offer as a Buyer, the fee is added onto your offer.
edit: Further confirmation
ds who're busy bleeding the platform for all its worth. Which might make a few folks rich(er) in the short-medium term but I can see folks flocking away to pastures new; if someone has the chutzpah (and £££) to create a genuine competitor that's simpler to use and less greedy (playing a long game) I think eBay will find they've painted themselves into a corner. I'm already doing better on certain items through Vinted, although I wish they'd allow you to hold something 'in stock' rather than having to relist every time it sells (albeit I know why) and the fact folks can make an offer, you accept, then they just disappear is stupid - they should be bound to follow it through like eBay imho. I mean, why go to the effort of making an offer if you're not going to do a buy? Idiots everywhere. Oh, and that they can make stupid offers like the one who wanted 90p off a £3 item tonight... who's so fking skint you need 90p off ffs? 
trackdemon said:
I think it's ever so slightly the other way, in that the buyer makes an offer (lets say £33 in this case) and ebay automatically deducts the BPF so what you see is what you get, not what they offered per se. What a buyer sees/bids is always higher than what you see as your actual earnings, and that nice chunky cut goes to the greedy bds who're busy bleeding the platform for all its worth. Which might make a few folks rich(er) in the short-medium term but I can see folks flocking away to pastures new; if someone has the chutzpah (and £££) to create a genuine competitor that's simpler to use and less greedy (playing a long game) I think eBay will find they've painted themselves into a corner. I'm already doing better on certain items through Vinted, although I wish they'd allow you to hold something 'in stock' rather than having to relist every time it sells (albeit I know why) and the fact folks can make an offer, you accept, then they just disappear is stupid - they should be bound to follow it through like eBay imho. I mean, why go to the effort of making an offer if you're not going to do a buy? Idiots everywhere. Oh, and that they can make stupid offers like the one who wanted 90p off a £3 item tonight... who's so fking skint you need 90p off ffs?
Ok, but since this is a thread for private sellers, my post was from the point of view of a seller. But you're correct in saying my corollary was incorrect, and for that I apologise. I've edited my post now.ds who're busy bleeding the platform for all its worth. Which might make a few folks rich(er) in the short-medium term but I can see folks flocking away to pastures new; if someone has the chutzpah (and £££) to create a genuine competitor that's simpler to use and less greedy (playing a long game) I think eBay will find they've painted themselves into a corner. I'm already doing better on certain items through Vinted, although I wish they'd allow you to hold something 'in stock' rather than having to relist every time it sells (albeit I know why) and the fact folks can make an offer, you accept, then they just disappear is stupid - they should be bound to follow it through like eBay imho. I mean, why go to the effort of making an offer if you're not going to do a buy? Idiots everywhere. Oh, and that they can make stupid offers like the one who wanted 90p off a £3 item tonight... who's so fking skint you need 90p off ffs? The point was that the figure that you see when a buyer makes you an offer is what you are going to get, as per my screenshots.
There was absolutely no indication which way it was, though, hence my laborious and frustrating text chat with eBay agents.
Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Wednesday 18th June 01:13
There appears to have been a change in postal options for private eBayers. You get a few size/weight permutations when listing now. The real change is when you need to post something to a buyer. You can t now get their full address, so you can t now organise your own postage. It has to go via eBay, and Evri seems to be their default service. There appears no way out of this.
edit: yes, I could ask the buyer for their full address, but that may fall foul of eBays message snipping. There's only one way to find out...
I have serious problems with using Evri, resulting from a 15 day merry-go-round nightmare, they put me through in 2023. I swore I would never use them again, but on my latest order, that s what s happened. Anyway around this?
edit: yes, I could ask the buyer for their full address, but that may fall foul of eBays message snipping. There's only one way to find out...
I have serious problems with using Evri, resulting from a 15 day merry-go-round nightmare, they put me through in 2023. I swore I would never use them again, but on my latest order, that s what s happened. Anyway around this?
Edited by Horsey McHorseface on Wednesday 18th June 14:02
Horsey McHorseface said:
There appears to have been a change in postal options for private eBayers. You get a few size/weight permutations when listing now. The real change is when you need to post something to a buyer. You can t now get their full address, so you can t now organise your own postage. It has to go via eBay, and Evri seems to be their default service. There appears no way out of this.
I have serious problems with using Evri, resulting from a 15 day merry-go-round nightmare, they put me through in 2023. I swore I would never use them again, but on my latest order, that s what s happened. Anyway around this?
You can. Certainly on the desktop (not sure about the app). If you scroll back a bit I even provide screenshots. I have serious problems with using Evri, resulting from a 15 day merry-go-round nightmare, they put me through in 2023. I swore I would never use them again, but on my latest order, that s what s happened. Anyway around this?
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