Discussion
300bhp/ton said:
Like many lights, the Olight is cleverly programmed in order to claim much higher lumens than it really puts out during use. The high marketing lumen output only lasts for 1.5 mins before dropping to less than half the output.
WTF it vibrates!!!! I can't have that Wifey would go nuts....or does that Batton 2 do it as well 
dickymint said:
I just want a f
king good torch with loads of fking light coming out of it that fits in my fking pocket - and when I've got it I don't want that niggling doubt that I should've bought a different fker 
Reminds me of Rob Gilbert trying to buy a fking duvet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmx1vMouUt8
Not quite sure what all the swearing is about. It's your money, if you want the Olight, get it.king good torch with loads of fking light coming out of it that fits in my fking pocket - and when I've got it I don't want that niggling doubt that I should've bought a different fker Reminds me of Rob Gilbert trying to buy a f
king duvet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmx1vMouUt8
In terms of alternatives. Are you after throw or flood? Generally you'll get higher output flood lights, some use multi emitters or single large LEDs. Throwers tend to use smaller LEDs with less output and often a single larger reflector.
Some lights can offer a bit of both flood and throw.
As for pocket friendly, what kind of pocket?
I EDC a torch, but I like to carry it in my jeans pocket, usually facing down at the back of the pocket with the switch at the top (assuming it's a tailcap switch).
Something not too chunky works well for this kind of carry, as does a deep carry pocket clip. However if you just want something to fit in a coat pocket, it is a different ball game.
I bought one of these recently:
https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-MF01-Mini-7+-SST...
Astrolux MF01 Mini
Although I got one on offer.
It is certainly a coat pocket light, albeit a little chunky. But I suspect no real worse than the Olight you are looking at if I'm honest. The MF01 Mini is a multi emitter light and can put out a lot more lumens, but has less throw. So if you want to light up a wide area it will be much better, but won't light up an object as far away.
For the money, I think the Astrolux is a nicer better light.
Mine arrived in 10 days from ordering.
If you want a bit more throw, there is the Astrolux ft03 with the XHP50 LED. It is a bit bigger than the Olight, but it has higher output and more throw. And the best bit, it only costs £30
https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-FT03-XHP50_2-430...
Edited by 300bhp/ton on Thursday 29th October 08:34
300bhp/ton said:
I would say that is one ugly and expensive torch.
I am an Olight fan but have to agree with 300. Stayingbrand .oya. I'd spend a bit more and opt for one of these.https://www.olightstore.uk/seeker-2-black.html
Mine is fantastic.
Andy-SP2 said:
I see that the Olight uses a 'customised' battery.. I suspect this means that, should you need a replacement, you'll be tied to their expensive replacements.
It could just be that they're scared of a court case as sub standard replacment Li-ions could be dangerous
I think it is more about trying to trap the customer and get more money from them. Plenty of companies don't do this. And the battery itself is nothing special, it just has the contacts modified to only work with the Olight.It could just be that they're scared of a court case as sub standard replacment Li-ions could be dangerous
dickymint said:
300bhp/ton said:
Like many lights, the Olight is cleverly programmed in order to claim much higher lumens than it really puts out during use. The high marketing lumen output only lasts for 1.5 mins before dropping to less than half the output.
WTF it vibrates!!!! I can't have that Wifey would go nuts.. 
Watched hours of Youtube comparisons with the Turbo version and the Seeker 2
X Pro seems to be a better balance between spot and flood. Turbo is an out and out spot but I like the spill of the X pro. I would prefer side button but to me this is a better torch than the Seeker 2.
As regards the custom battery issue: I couldn't care less as I have no 'investment' in other types.
Edit: and none of that stupid strobe mode that just leads to utter embarrassment when you set it off by accident
Edited by dickymint on Thursday 29th October 21:04
I believe the custom battery aspect is due to their magnetic charging system having both positive and negative coming in from one end. I have quite a few Olights now and the earlier Warrior has a sort of double tube system and can use normal batteries. The later ones have the different batteries.
dickymint said:
I just want a fking good torch with loads of fking light coming out of it that fits in my fking pocket - and when I've got it I don't want that niggling doubt that I should've bought a different fker
Reminds me of Rob Gilbert trying to buy a fking duvet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmx1vMouUt8
Rhod Gilbert, million candlepower torchking good torch with loads of fking light coming out of it that fits in my fking pocket - and when I've got it I don't want that niggling doubt that I should've bought a different fker Reminds me of Rob Gilbert trying to buy a f
king duvet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmx1vMouUt8
https://youtu.be/Vt8aAy_8Ub4
FiF said:
dickymint said:
I just want a fking good torch with loads of fking light coming out of it that fits in my fking pocket - and when I've got it I don't want that niggling doubt that I should've bought a different fker
Reminds me of Rob Gilbert trying to buy a fking duvet!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmx1vMouUt8
Rhod Gilbert, million candlepower torchking good torch with loads of fking light coming out of it that fits in my fking pocket - and when I've got it I don't want that niggling doubt that I should've bought a different fker Reminds me of Rob Gilbert trying to buy a f
king duvet! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmx1vMouUt8
https://youtu.be/Vt8aAy_8Ub4
:fofl: I'd forgotten that one - just carried on watching the "toothbrush" one then the "baked potato one" meanwhile back on topic - "the ugly one" is on charge next to Wifey's baby Batton...................
Resisted using it till it’s fully charged!
Edited by dickymint on Monday 2nd November 20:14
chinnyman said:
Just received the ec01 from Banggood. Didn't order a battery to go with it.
Where is the most reputable place to buy a 27100 battery?
I got mine from fogstar.co.uk, if you sign up they usually have a weekend sale with about 20% off. (not sure if that is after your first order or not or just for anyone who has signed up)Where is the most reputable place to buy a 27100 battery?
Zadkiel said:
I believe the custom battery aspect is due to their magnetic charging system having both positive and negative coming in from one end. I have quite a few Olights now and the earlier Warrior has a sort of double tube system and can use normal batteries. The later ones have the different batteries.
The Olight batteries are nothing special, just a bit of metal running up the side of the battery and shrink wrap to change where the terminals are. Olight don't make the "actual" batteries. They just charge through the nose for them.Trying to decide between the Convoy L6 (original) and the Convoy L6 (new).
Original orange peel reflector vs New Smooth reflector
Original 3800lm, New 4200lm
Different emitters obviously.
Does the smooth reflector make it too much of a thrower, or is there enough light spillage anyway?
Greater output isn't always better, and the original is a bit cheaper, not that that is important in the overall scheme of things.
Presumably still needs protected 70mm max length 26650 batteries.
Anyone know of a good and reliable battery source, just emailed Torchy asking about his stock.
(Looking for a backup to the Nitecore TM06S which seems to be getting a bit temperamental. Plus yes I know that is a coke can style, and the Convoy isn't)
Original orange peel reflector vs New Smooth reflector
Original 3800lm, New 4200lm
Different emitters obviously.
Does the smooth reflector make it too much of a thrower, or is there enough light spillage anyway?
Greater output isn't always better, and the original is a bit cheaper, not that that is important in the overall scheme of things.
Presumably still needs protected 70mm max length 26650 batteries.
Anyone know of a good and reliable battery source, just emailed Torchy asking about his stock.
(Looking for a backup to the Nitecore TM06S which seems to be getting a bit temperamental. Plus yes I know that is a coke can style, and the Convoy isn't)
FiF said:
Trying to decide between the Convoy L6 (original) and the Convoy L6 (new).
Original orange peel reflector vs New Smooth reflector
Original 3800lm, New 4200lm
Different emitters obviously.
Does the smooth reflector make it too much of a thrower, or is there enough light spillage anyway?
Greater output isn't always better, and the original is a bit cheaper, not that that is important in the overall scheme of things.
Presumably still needs protected 70mm max length 26650 batteries.
Anyone know of a good and reliable battery source, just emailed Torchy asking about his stock.
(Looking for a backup to the Nitecore TM06S which seems to be getting a bit temperamental. Plus yes I know that is a coke can style, and the Convoy isn't)
I've used fogstar for 18650's not sure if they go as big as 26650 (vaping company)Original orange peel reflector vs New Smooth reflector
Original 3800lm, New 4200lm
Different emitters obviously.
Does the smooth reflector make it too much of a thrower, or is there enough light spillage anyway?
Greater output isn't always better, and the original is a bit cheaper, not that that is important in the overall scheme of things.
Presumably still needs protected 70mm max length 26650 batteries.
Anyone know of a good and reliable battery source, just emailed Torchy asking about his stock.
(Looking for a backup to the Nitecore TM06S which seems to be getting a bit temperamental. Plus yes I know that is a coke can style, and the Convoy isn't)
https://www.fogstar.co.uk/
alternatively I use https://eu.nkon.nl/ (for 14500 & 18650)
Just do some research on batteries first, quite a few people do reviews on the batteries and there's a degree of variance with quality/longevity etc.
https://budgetlightforum.com/forum/batteries/recha...
This guy is pretty good once you have an idea of the brand/model to look at.
https://lygte-info.dk/
FiF said:
Trying to decide between the Convoy L6 (original) and the Convoy L6 (new).
Original orange peel reflector vs New Smooth reflector
Original 3800lm, New 4200lm
Different emitters obviously.
Does the smooth reflector make it too much of a thrower, or is there enough light spillage anyway?
Greater output isn't always better, and the original is a bit cheaper, not that that is important in the overall scheme of things.
Presumably still needs protected 70mm max length 26650 batteries.
Anyone know of a good and reliable battery source, just emailed Torchy asking about his stock.
(Looking for a backup to the Nitecore TM06S which seems to be getting a bit temperamental. Plus yes I know that is a coke can style, and the Convoy isn't)
Which L2 are you looking at? The emitter choice will dictate the beam to a greater degree.Original orange peel reflector vs New Smooth reflector
Original 3800lm, New 4200lm
Different emitters obviously.
Does the smooth reflector make it too much of a thrower, or is there enough light spillage anyway?
Greater output isn't always better, and the original is a bit cheaper, not that that is important in the overall scheme of things.
Presumably still needs protected 70mm max length 26650 batteries.
Anyone know of a good and reliable battery source, just emailed Torchy asking about his stock.
(Looking for a backup to the Nitecore TM06S which seems to be getting a bit temperamental. Plus yes I know that is a coke can style, and the Convoy isn't)
Are you wanting throw or flood? The TM06S is a completely different kind of light to the L6. If you want something more comparable to the TM06S then there are other options.
As for SMO vs Orange Peel reflectors, assuming the Orange peel is only mild. What they tend to do is make the transition from the hotspot to the spill beam (the corona) less sharp and more blended, ie. not quite as well defined. It will impact total beam distance, but not likely enough to tell by eye. And it won't really alter the brightness of the spill beam either.
Well to answer the questions, the person using the TM06S mainly is after something bigger with more heft. The L6 seems about the right size. They don't get on with my TK51, size and weight OK, but equally don't want something with a really complicated UI. Not that the TK51 is complicated imo.
Throw or flood? Guess it's the old compromise, something that's got reasonable flood for close work, but can project enough light over a distance if required without too much hassle. I guess that's my interpretation of the demands. Clearly other suggestions welcome. Budget? Guess up to 80 with batteries, but flexible on that.
Throw or flood? Guess it's the old compromise, something that's got reasonable flood for close work, but can project enough light over a distance if required without too much hassle. I guess that's my interpretation of the demands. Clearly other suggestions welcome. Budget? Guess up to 80 with batteries, but flexible on that.
FiF said:
Well to answer the questions, the person using the TM06S mainly is after something bigger with more heft. The L6 seems about the right size. They don't get on with my TK51, size and weight OK, but equally don't want something with a really complicated UI. Not that the TK51 is complicated imo.
Throw or flood? Guess it's the old compromise, something that's got reasonable flood for close work, but can project enough light over a distance if required without too much hassle. I guess that's my interpretation of the demands. Clearly other suggestions welcome. Budget? Guess up to 80 with batteries, but flexible on that.
The L2/L6 are nice lights, but I'd say they are rather big and heavy. Certainly not very pocket friendly. A large reflector is really designed for throw. If you want more even lighting and close up use, a multi emitter light might be the ticket.Throw or flood? Guess it's the old compromise, something that's got reasonable flood for close work, but can project enough light over a distance if required without too much hassle. I guess that's my interpretation of the demands. Clearly other suggestions welcome. Budget? Guess up to 80 with batteries, but flexible on that.
I'd certainly not want to dissuade you from the Convoy, I like the brand a lot and own many of their lights. But I'll be honest, even I haven't got an L6. I think it is simply too big as a casual use torch.
I can comment on some lights I've bought recently or are looking at.
I'm currently very tempted by an Astrolux FT03.
They are only about £30 and very similar in quality to the Convoy lights.
The FT03 is a tad smaller than the L6 and small enough to fit a coat pocket. But still with some heft.
For ultimate lumens you can get it with the XHP50 or for lower lumens but more throw there is the SST-40 version.
https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-FT03-XHP50_2-430...
https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-FT03-SST40-W-240...
The XHP70 in the Convoy L6 does indeed put out more lumens. But the trade off is size & weight.
The other light I'd also personally consider over the L6 is the Noctigon K1. This is primarily a thrower, but it is again a bit more compact and nearer to the FT03 in size. But you can spec it with a huge choice of emitters including the SBT90.
https://intl-outdoor.com/k1-21700-thrower-led-flas...
But it is a slightly more pricey option.
If you aren't after as much throw. I also really like the look of the Noctigon Emisar D18, which you can spec up to a whooping 14,000 lumens.
https://intl-outdoor.com/led-flashlights/emisar-d1...
However there are smaller and cheaper lights I'd also say to look at.
I recently bought myself an Astrolux MF01 Mini with over 5000 lumen.
As it's a 1 x 26650 light, it is quite chunky. But fits a coat pocket easily.
A very impressive small light.
Arguably even more impressive and only arrived a few hours ago is a Noctigon KR1. No much heft, but 100,000cd in an EDC size light. Although other emitter choices are available.
https://intl-outdoor.com/media/wysiwyg/D18/IMG_238...
And lastly for under £30 you can get a really good C8, either Convoy or Astrolux. Again coat pocket friendly, but with more heft than a typical EDC size light. The C8 can be had with an XP-L HI, SST-40 or XHP50 (I have one of these on order now). Obviously less output and throw than the L6. But to my mind so much more usable. As you really can carry it about with you or fit it in a car glove box.
https://www.banggood.com/Astrolux-C8-XHP50_2-5000L...
Here are some of mine. The Blue is the Noctigon KR1, the green is the Astrolux MF01 Mini, the black a Convoy C8 and the red a classic 2D Maglite. As well as a Samsung 25R 18650 for reference.
The L6 is bigger and heavier than the 2D Maglite, certainly the head is much bigger. Ultimately if you want a light in this class size, then yes. I'd say the Convoy L6 is probably as good as it gets for this price point.
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