Samsung Galaxy S3

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wiffmaster

2,602 posts

197 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Fletch79 said:
So excuse the stupidity ... but how do i get my visa debit on my phone using NFC?! While i've never seen any of the tech up in this neck of the woods .. i want to be ready!! ;-)
When they launch Google Wallet here, you can add the Visa card to the app and then pay for things using the phone. But you can't do anything until Google (or Visa) launch the app over here.

Fletch79

1,641 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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wiffmaster said:
When they launch Google Wallet here, you can add the Visa card to the app and then pay for things using the phone. But you can't do anything until Google (or Visa) launch the app over here.
That's kinda what i had thought! Nip on google!

wiffmaster

2,602 posts

197 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Fletch79 said:
That's kinda what i had thought! Nip on google!
The sooner this takes off, the better! It'll make the lunchtime sandwich queues in London move so much faster. I wish somebody like Tesco would roll it out at their self-service checkouts. I bet queuing times would reduce by at least 1/3.

ZesPak

24,423 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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wiffmaster said:
The sooner this takes off, the better! It'll make the lunchtime sandwich queues in London move so much faster. I wish somebody like Tesco would roll it out at their self-service checkouts. I bet queuing times would reduce by at least 1/3.
Tbh the exclusion of NFC in the new iPhone will really slow the implementation down frown. Hopefully not too much though, as I'd really love it to take off.
I'm betting it was a deliberate move to moot it as a "new amazing feature" of the iPhone 5S.

A lot of the new banksys and similar payment terminals that businesses can get already are NFC-ready, and I'm betting that within the year it'll be impossible to get one without NFC. This means it'll only take the business to "allow" NFC on their device and we're off. As usual the big chains will pull this (McDonalds, Starbucks, after that supermarkets,...), small business will follow.

Edited by ZesPak on Wednesday 10th October 09:09

FUBAR

17,062 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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wiffmaster said:
When they launch Google Wallet here, you can add the Visa card to the app and then pay for things using the phone. But you can't do anything until Google (or Visa) launch the app over here.
I already have Google Wallet but I presume you mean the app for contact less ? I'm guessing it must still be pin protected otherwise if you get your phone nicked the buggers could spend your money

ZesPak

24,423 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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FUBAR said:
I already have Google Wallet but I presume you mean the app for contact less ? I'm guessing it must still be pin protected otherwise if you get your phone nicked the buggers could spend your money
I suppose it's more of an "accept" button on your phone, but you could protect it by for example the default lockscreen(s).

The principle will be about the same as a real wallet and, when you lose that, the buggers can also spend your money.
A couple of measures will be in place, like a limit per transaction, limit per day,...

For example, if your day limit is £250, and you lose your phone, you just have to try and get your account locked as fast as possible, and the max they can spend is £250.

If you have £200 in your wallet, it's £200 you'll never see back, at least with the "phone payments" you'll have the ability to lock it before any transaction could be done.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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ZesPak said:
I suppose it's more of an "accept" button on your phone, but you could protect it by for example the default lockscreen(s).

The principle will be about the same as a real wallet and, when you lose that, the buggers can also spend your money.
A couple of measures will be in place, like a limit per transaction, limit per day,...

For example, if your day limit is £250, and you lose your phone, you just have to try and get your account locked as fast as possible, and the max they can spend is £250.

If you have £200 in your wallet, it's £200 you'll never see back, at least with the "phone payments" you'll have the ability to lock it before any transaction could be done.
The same as credit card with built in NFC - dont drop it!

Rib

2,548 posts

188 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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from what I have read it is only going to be able to use for small transactions, (fast foods etc) so not sure how high the limit will be?

ZesPak

24,423 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Rib said:
from what I have read it is only going to be able to use for small transactions, (fast foods etc) so not sure how high the limit will be?
It's supposed to replace cash transactions, so indeed "small" transactions. "Proton" was up to € 500 at the time it was introduced iirc.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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The limit is £20 - it went up this summer from £15 (Europe is 20 Euro)

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Tasker - am i doing something dumb?

I have it set so when hooked to my house wifi the keyguard is off - the task becomes "active" but the key guard is still needed when the phone turns off/on again!!!

I have tried pattern and pin - both fail and the keyguard off within tasker and via the plugin app suggested.

ZesPak

24,423 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Tiggsy said:
Tasker - am i doing something dumb?

I have it set so when hooked to my house wifi the keyguard is off - the task becomes "active" but the key guard is still needed when the phone turns off/on again!!!

I have tried pattern and pin - both fail and the keyguard off within tasker and via the plugin app suggested.
Hmm, I think the only keyguard tasker can disable is the "swipe" one, no real pin/pattern, as it would seriously compromise the phone's security if an app could disable that.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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ZesPak said:
Tiggsy said:
Tasker - am i doing something dumb?

I have it set so when hooked to my house wifi the keyguard is off - the task becomes "active" but the key guard is still needed when the phone turns off/on again!!!

I have tried pattern and pin - both fail and the keyguard off within tasker and via the plugin app suggested.
Hmm, I think the only keyguard tasker can disable is the "swipe" one, no real pin/pattern, as it would seriously compromise the phone's security if an app could disable that.
Ahhhhhhh!

So that sucks! Why would you a) have the swipe guard and b) if you have, want it off!

I thought it would get rid of needing a password when I was in the house

Fletch79

1,641 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th October 2012
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Did i not read somewhere (i will go looking)

That you can do up to £20 with the phone locked and to pay over that the screen has to be on and unlocked

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Loving this phone - having a good play with them a few nights before (we both had BlackBerry Curves before) and the wife simply said, 'Why have we been living in the dark ages with these things!?'

Battery life seems to be a bit st so far but I'm assuming that once I've conditioned the battery it will improve.

We should have a 'Best Android App' thread so people can share those hidden gems. Is there such a thing already? Did a search and can't anything.

ApexJimi

24,864 posts

242 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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Asterix, there's a wiki sticky at the top of this forum for just that. Dunno how up to date it is though.

Asterix

24,438 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th October 2012
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ApexJimi said:
Asterix, there's a wiki sticky at the top of this forum for just that. Dunno how up to date it is though.
Ah - ok - will have a look at that then.

ZesPak

24,423 posts

195 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Asterix said:
Loving this phone - having a good play with them a few nights before (we both had BlackBerry Curves before) and the wife simply said, 'Why have we been living in the dark ages with these things!?'

Battery life seems to be a bit st so far but I'm assuming that once I've conditioned the battery it will improve.
Battery life on new gadgets is also often st because you trend to play with them a lot smile.

snotrag

14,446 posts

210 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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Anyone reccomend a decent 'tough' case? Not some leather flip thing...

tenohfive

6,276 posts

181 months

Friday 12th October 2012
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snotrag said:
Anyone reccomend a decent 'tough' case? Not some leather flip thing...
On the skin front, I can strongly recommend this:
http://www.proporta.com/product/samsung-galaxy-s3-...

£20 but you get what you pay for with Proporta gear in my experience.