4k/5k monitor under £500?
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Djtemeka said:
Any idea where I can get a decent 4/5k monitor for my pic under £500?
Been trying to educate myself on what to get for a gaming monitor.
Preferably 120hz or more.
Most 120hz monitors are actually only 60hz.
Scratching my head over all the tech jargon
Thanks
You aren't going to get 4K monitors running over 60Hz at 4K, quite simply the cables don't deliver enough bandwidth to work at higher refresh rates.Been trying to educate myself on what to get for a gaming monitor.
Preferably 120hz or more.
Most 120hz monitors are actually only 60hz.
Scratching my head over all the tech jargon
Thanks
The next thing then will be if gaming is your goal, does a 4K monitor make sense? You'll need a VERY powerful GPU to run some games at native resolution.
Additionally you then need to think what screen size do you want? I have a trio of 32" 4K BenQ monitors, but if I was buying SOLELY for gaming then they wouldn't have been my first choice.
So you need to be realistic about what you're looking for.
If it's for gaming, then your 1060 isn't going to get close to driving a 4k screen at 60Hz. The difference between a 60Hz panel and a 120Hz panel means dick all when you're getting frame rates in the teens. Even a 1080Ti will struggle to push modern games at 4k whilst keeping up a good frame rate.
Which means that if you buy a 4k screen, then you're going to have to run it at a lower resolution than native, which a) is rubbish, and b) means you've wasted money going for 4k in the first place.
You also need to decide what screen size you want. Bigger is nearly always better but there are limits; personally, and for PC gaming where you're generally sat pretty close to the monitor, I think 24" is the limit for FHD (1080p) and 27" for QHD (1440p). Your opinion may of course differ. QHD is also about as much as you can reasonably expect a 1060 to drive at a halfway decent frame rate.
If it's for gaming, then your 1060 isn't going to get close to driving a 4k screen at 60Hz. The difference between a 60Hz panel and a 120Hz panel means dick all when you're getting frame rates in the teens. Even a 1080Ti will struggle to push modern games at 4k whilst keeping up a good frame rate.
Which means that if you buy a 4k screen, then you're going to have to run it at a lower resolution than native, which a) is rubbish, and b) means you've wasted money going for 4k in the first place.
You also need to decide what screen size you want. Bigger is nearly always better but there are limits; personally, and for PC gaming where you're generally sat pretty close to the monitor, I think 24" is the limit for FHD (1080p) and 27" for QHD (1440p). Your opinion may of course differ. QHD is also about as much as you can reasonably expect a 1060 to drive at a halfway decent frame rate.
deckster said:
So you need to be realistic about what you're looking for.
If it's for gaming, then your 1060 isn't going to get close to driving a 4k screen at 60Hz. The difference between a 60Hz panel and a 120Hz panel means dick all when you're getting frame rates in the teens. Even a 1080Ti will struggle to push modern games at 4k whilst keeping up a good frame rate.
Which means that if you buy a 4k screen, then you're going to have to run it at a lower resolution than native, which a) is rubbish, and b) means you've wasted money going for 4k in the first place.
You also need to decide what screen size you want. Bigger is nearly always better but there are limits; personally, and for PC gaming where you're generally sat pretty close to the monitor, I think 24" is the limit for FHD (1080p) and 27" for QHD (1440p). Your opinion may of course differ. QHD is also about as much as you can reasonably expect a 1060 to drive at a halfway decent frame rate.
this^If it's for gaming, then your 1060 isn't going to get close to driving a 4k screen at 60Hz. The difference between a 60Hz panel and a 120Hz panel means dick all when you're getting frame rates in the teens. Even a 1080Ti will struggle to push modern games at 4k whilst keeping up a good frame rate.
Which means that if you buy a 4k screen, then you're going to have to run it at a lower resolution than native, which a) is rubbish, and b) means you've wasted money going for 4k in the first place.
You also need to decide what screen size you want. Bigger is nearly always better but there are limits; personally, and for PC gaming where you're generally sat pretty close to the monitor, I think 24" is the limit for FHD (1080p) and 27" for QHD (1440p). Your opinion may of course differ. QHD is also about as much as you can reasonably expect a 1060 to drive at a halfway decent frame rate.
I bought an Asus ROG 240hz monitor as I play fast paced fps games and it's amazing!
Been using a RX480, which is pretty similar performance to a 1060, on my main TV which is 4K and HDR.
Neither of these graphics cards has enough poke to run any current mainstream games at 4K with anything near to 60FPS. However, older titles are doable as long as you're prepared to sacrifice some settings. One title that I've recently played that has no struggles at all is South Park The Stick of Truth, but that's not at all demanding graphically and is a few years old.
Currently waiting to see what RX Vega is like as now I've got a 4K TV I'd like to game at 4K. If Vega isn't good enough then hopefully it will drop the price of the Nvidia 1080Ti but as said already, even that struggles to play at 4K with all the settings maxed out at a steady 60FPS.
This is why I also have a PS4 Pro as even with it's arse about tit way of rendering 4K, some titles look absolutely stunning on it.
Personally, I'd opt for a 4K HDR enabled TV at that budget as it will also cope admirably with 1080P, possibly better than a dedicated monitor outside of it's native 4K resolution. And there's lots of choice out there for your budget.
Neither of these graphics cards has enough poke to run any current mainstream games at 4K with anything near to 60FPS. However, older titles are doable as long as you're prepared to sacrifice some settings. One title that I've recently played that has no struggles at all is South Park The Stick of Truth, but that's not at all demanding graphically and is a few years old.
Currently waiting to see what RX Vega is like as now I've got a 4K TV I'd like to game at 4K. If Vega isn't good enough then hopefully it will drop the price of the Nvidia 1080Ti but as said already, even that struggles to play at 4K with all the settings maxed out at a steady 60FPS.
This is why I also have a PS4 Pro as even with it's arse about tit way of rendering 4K, some titles look absolutely stunning on it.
Personally, I'd opt for a 4K HDR enabled TV at that budget as it will also cope admirably with 1080P, possibly better than a dedicated monitor outside of it's native 4K resolution. And there's lots of choice out there for your budget.
Edited by HRL on Monday 17th July 12:53
Sod the 4K get a Rift for £400 and get gaming in VR...love mine couldn't go back to a monitor now. Obviously this depends on what games you play and whether they are VR ready...anything cockpit based (driving/flight/space) is bang on the money and superb, other types of games are a bit hit and miss tbh.
k me this is awesome! 6gb!" threw out my old 1.3g card 
I still think we're a few years away from good 4K gaming. Once a card can support ultra everything @t >=100hz on 4K, then I'll think about it 
I just didn't understand the people who initially jumped to 4K. The ones who would tell you they can play games at 4K if they turn all their settings on to low. Really!? What's the point? You've just got a very clear, sh*t image on your screen. I'd must rather have everything 'ultra' at 1080p then everything 'low' at 4K.
I just didn't understand the people who initially jumped to 4K. The ones who would tell you they can play games at 4K if they turn all their settings on to low. Really!? What's the point? You've just got a very clear, sh*t image on your screen. I'd must rather have everything 'ultra' at 1080p then everything 'low' at 4K.
Rawwr said:
I still think we're a few years away from good 4K gaming. Once a card can support ultra everything @t >=100hz on 4K, then I'll think about it
I just didn't understand the people who initially jumped to 4K. The ones who would tell you they can play games at 4K if they turn all their settings on to low. Really!? What's the point? You've just got a very clear, sh*t image on your screen. I'd must rather have everything 'ultra' at 1080p then everything 'low' at 4K.
Potentially Nvidia's next gen Volta might be able to it. The 1080Ti can do a pretty good job now apparently. Maybe not all the bells and whistles but not far off it. I just didn't understand the people who initially jumped to 4K. The ones who would tell you they can play games at 4K if they turn all their settings on to low. Really!? What's the point? You've just got a very clear, sh*t image on your screen. I'd must rather have everything 'ultra' at 1080p then everything 'low' at 4K.
No need for AA at 4K.
Yeah depends on the next gen of Nvidia cards, 1080ti is close but not there yet as said
1060 is great for 1080P gaming, 1070 for 1440p and as mentioned 1080TI will just about cope of 4k with high end stuff
Memory on graphics card is a good indicator but not the performance deciding factor, more to do with number of cores and clock speed another other such technical shizzle lol
1060 is great for 1080P gaming, 1070 for 1440p and as mentioned 1080TI will just about cope of 4k with high end stuff
Memory on graphics card is a good indicator but not the performance deciding factor, more to do with number of cores and clock speed another other such technical shizzle lol
NoIP said:
You should've kept quiet guys. The lolz that could've been had from him trying to run something like Crysis at 4k from his 1060 would have been hilarious. "Guys, I think my PC might have a virus - whenever I try to play anything it's like a slideshow and my PC keeps freezing". 
That's why I asked! Djtemeka said:
That's why I asked!
It's also worth noting that 4k scales terribly on a lot of Windows progs if you're planning to use it for normal PC stuff. W10's scaling is a lot better than previous versions but still has plenty of niggles and annoyances. You'll find on a lot of stuff (Adobe products for one) that when you try to rescale it so that you can read the text, the buttons and menus don't rescale at the same time. You find yourself in situations where text is covered by buttons or buttons and menus are off the edge of the screen if you scale it too much one way.
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