iOS 11 - who's upgrading?

[jmorgan]

[redacted]

[jmorgan]

Maybe an app for that?
One big thing from Apple sticks out, they will put the building blocks there but never join them. Someone develops an app and may well do the job. I assume more money if the app sells well.

[tannhauser]

Why are Apple incapable of releasing new software which runs correctly, and why does it always seems to be a massive backward step from the previous OS?

More to the point, why when we know these things happen, do people jump in feet-first to "upgrade" when there's no going back?!

iPhone SE here with iOS 10. No intention of upgrading - it runs perfectly, so why would I?! Pisses me off getting the constant update reminders though!

I had an iPhone 4S prior to this and never updated the OS - always worked well apart from poor battery. An iPad which I hesitantly updated to the next iteration, but no further. If it ain't broke and all that...

[CoolHands]

Doesn’t seem any different to me. I always upgrade and haven’t had any problems.

[ecsrobin]

CoolHands said:

Doesn’t seem any different to me. I always upgrade and haven’t had any problems.

Likewise, the odd battery drain or small glitch but the next update improves on that. I use the Beta software so I guess I’m more welcome to change and expect the odd problem along the way.

Some people jumpstart can’t deal with change.

[Efbe]

ecsrobin said:

CoolHands said:

Doesn’t seem any different to me. I always upgrade and haven’t had any problems.

Likewise, the odd battery drain or small glitch but the next update improves on that. I use the Beta software so I guess I’m more welcome to change and expect the odd problem along the way.

Some people jumpstart can’t deal with change.

Both on a 6s?

[megaphone]

tannhauser said:

Why are Apple incapable of releasing new software which runs correctly, and why does it always seems to be a massive backward step from the previous OS?

More to the point, why when we know these things happen, do people jump in feet-first to "upgrade" when there's no going back?!

iPhone SE here with iOS 10. No intention of upgrading - it runs perfectly, so why would I?! Pisses me off getting the constant update reminders though!

I had an iPhone 4S prior to this and never updated the OS - always worked well apart from poor battery. An iPad which I hesitantly updated to the next iteration, but no further. If it ain't broke and all that...

My 5SE is working well after the update.

[jmorgan]

After my reset, and battery reset.

Plugged the phone in briefly in the var before unplugging it when I remembered I wanted to see ho far it would go.

[ZesPak]

tannhauser said:

Why are Apple incapable of releasing new software which runs correctly, and why does it always seems to be a massive backward step from the previous OS?

More to the point, why when we know these things happen, do people jump in feet-first to "upgrade" when there's no going back?!

iPhone SE here with iOS 10. No intention of upgrading - it runs perfectly, so why would I?! Pisses me off getting the constant update reminders though!

I had an iPhone 4S prior to this and never updated the OS - always worked well apart from poor battery. An iPad which I hesitantly updated to the next iteration, but no further. If it ain't broke and all that...

It starts to be a nuisance when you can't use some apps anymore. My banking app was an example, renders a 600 gbp tablet almost useless after just 4 years. Makes a cheap laptop seem incredible value for money.
I do hope that hardware has caught up and that the hardware side of things is no longer a concern with updates. Initial bugs will get ironed out.

[ecsrobin]

Efbe said:

ecsrobin said:

CoolHands said:

Doesn’t seem any different to me. I always upgrade and haven’t had any problems.

Likewise, the odd battery drain or small glitch but the next update improves on that. I use the Beta software so I guess I’m more welcome to change and expect the odd problem along the way.

Some people jumpstart can’t deal with change.

Both on a 6s?

6s Plus for me.

[tannhauser]

ZesPak said:

tannhauser said:

Why are Apple incapable of releasing new software which runs correctly, and why does it always seems to be a massive backward step from the previous OS?

More to the point, why when we know these things happen, do people jump in feet-first to "upgrade" when there's no going back?!

iPhone SE here with iOS 10. No intention of upgrading - it runs perfectly, so why would I?! Pisses me off getting the constant update reminders though!

I had an iPhone 4S prior to this and never updated the OS - always worked well apart from poor battery. An iPad which I hesitantly updated to the next iteration, but no further. If it ain't broke and all that...

It starts to be a nuisance when you can't use some apps anymore. My banking app was an example, renders a 600 gbp tablet almost useless after just 4 years. Makes a cheap laptop seem incredible value for money.
I do hope that hardware has caught up and that the hardware side of things is no longer a concern with updates. Initial bugs will get ironed out.

Agreed, but I don't understand why people jump in feet first when there's a new iOS launched and then bh about the glitches! Why not wait a while for these to be ironed out? More to the point, how can the developers get things so wrong?!

[jmorgan]

Older apps are not Apples fault as such, the developers need to keep up.

[Efbe]

tannhauser said:

ZesPak said:

tannhauser said:

Why are Apple incapable of releasing new software which runs correctly, and why does it always seems to be a massive backward step from the previous OS?

More to the point, why when we know these things happen, do people jump in feet-first to "upgrade" when there's no going back?!

iPhone SE here with iOS 10. No intention of upgrading - it runs perfectly, so why would I?! Pisses me off getting the constant update reminders though!

I had an iPhone 4S prior to this and never updated the OS - always worked well apart from poor battery. An iPad which I hesitantly updated to the next iteration, but no further. If it ain't broke and all that...

It starts to be a nuisance when you can't use some apps anymore. My banking app was an example, renders a 600 gbp tablet almost useless after just 4 years. Makes a cheap laptop seem incredible value for money.
I do hope that hardware has caught up and that the hardware side of things is no longer a concern with updates. Initial bugs will get ironed out.

Agreed, but I don't understand why people jump in feet first when there's a new iOS launched and then bh about the glitches! Why not wait a while for these to be ironed out? More to the point, how can the developers get things so wrong?!

Firstly because it's not immediately obvious you have an option not to update. The options provided are update now, or schedule a time later.

Secondly, because some people have to due to company policy, or people are advised to keep up to date due to security fixes etc

And Thirdly, because the end user of these phones should not fking well have to UAT their own updates, all of this should be sorted out well before an update is scheduled to be released.

[ZesPak]

jmorgan said:

Older apps are not Apples fault as such, the developers need to keep up.

That wasn't the point, the point was that for example for banking apps they sometimes require the newer iOS. So you're forced to update.

[Alucidnation]

jmorgan said:

First thing I do is reset the device after an update.

Is the reset you do, a full restore via iTunes?

[CoolHands]

Efbe said:

ecsrobin said:

CoolHands said:

Doesn’t seem any different to me. I always upgrade and haven’t had any problems.

Likewise, the odd battery drain or small glitch but the next update improves on that. I use the Beta software so I guess I’m more welcome to change and expect the odd problem along the way.

Some people jumpstart can’t deal with change.

Both on a 6s?

6s. I honestly can’t tell any difference.

[jmorgan]

Alucidnation said:

jmorgan said:

First thing I do is reset the device after an update.

Is the reset you do, a full restore via iTunes?

No, turn the device off then back on. Not the sleep switch, but the two button turn off.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201559

^^^^^^^^^^

Didn’t realise there is a software switch off in 11

Settings, general, last option in general

Edited by jmorgan on Tuesday 5th December 20:54

Edited by jmorgan on Tuesday 5th December 20:56

[Alucidnation]

Thanks.

Has anyone else noticed the new TV app appear from nowhere?

Pretty sure it wasnt part of 11.2, but I’m not convinced I’m correct though.

[jmorgan]

No tv app here.

Yet.....

Maybe a roll out over a period of time.

[Teppic]

I've now got the TV app on my iPad 10 Pro and iPhone X. My iPhone 7 is still showing the Videos app at the moment.

All are on iOS 11.2