iOS 11 - who's upgrading?

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Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Yes, replaces the video app apparently.

NDA

21,559 posts

225 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Thanks.

Has anyone else noticed the new TV app appear from nowhere?

Pretty sure it wasnt part of 11.2, but I’m not convinced I’m correct though.

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Yes - suddenly appeared from nowhere.

I don't watch TV on my phone, but will have a play.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Popped up on the Apple TV, looks useful, depends what content providers go for it I suppose.

Craikeybaby

10,402 posts

225 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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Got it on Apple TV, but not iPhone 7.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Saturday 9th December 2017
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I am running an iPhone 8 with it installed, however, we have an iPhone X in the family and it hasn't appeared on there yet.

Craikeybaby

10,402 posts

225 months

Monday 11th December 2017
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I was able to install it from the App Store on my iPhone 7, it didn't replace the Videos app though.

Warmfuzzies

3,975 posts

253 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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well the latest and greatest 11.2.1 has severely impacted battery life, losing around 50% overnight, and nothing being used.

Tried to backdate to 10.3.3 but as Apple are no longer signing this, it cant be done through Itunes, and most of the software that says it can do, well, it cant do it.

So I'm stuck with a battery eating, unresponsive (slow to react) bloody Iphone 6.

Pissed doesn't come close.

K

Squadrone Rosso

2,751 posts

147 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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Warmfuzzies said:
well the latest and greatest 11.2.1 has severely impacted battery life, losing around 50% overnight, and nothing being used.

Tried to backdate to 10.3.3 but as Apple are no longer signing this, it cant be done through Itunes, and most of the software that says it can do, well, it cant do it.

So I'm stuck with a battery eating, unresponsive (slow to react) bloody Iphone 6.

Pissed doesn't come close.

K
That’s weird. My 7+ was fully charged at 22:00. It’s now on 91% (09:12) after a quick look at FB & the news.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 16th December 2017
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Absolutely no guarantee this will work.
I found it did. Mine was OK then went funny, which was annoying. Initially it was bad but checking battery usage it was photos re indexing. All was fine in the world after the reindex (new file system as well??). Then a 11.x update it went a bit funny. Not Beta.
Ran the phone till it turned off, it sat at 40% for over a day. Restarted and it fired up with 8% or so, ran that flat. Plugged in to recharge and reset. Then full charge.

You could try a simple reset, seems 11 has introduced a handy Off in the setting rather than a multi button push.

But backup first.


p1stonhead

25,526 posts

167 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Seems Apple have been a bit cheeky with managing battery degredation

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/18/geekbench-iph...

CoolHands

18,604 posts

195 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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^ all sounds like total guesswork to me, with a few graphs thrown in to make it seem technical.

cologne2792

2,126 posts

126 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Warmfuzzies said:
well the latest and greatest 11.2.1 has severely impacted battery life, losing around 50% overnight, and nothing being used.

Tried to backdate to 10.3.3 but as Apple are no longer signing this, it cant be done through Itunes, and most of the software that says it can do, well, it cant do it.

So I'm stuck with a battery eating, unresponsive (slow to react) bloody Iphone 6.

Pissed doesn't come close.

K
Same thing happened to me but fortunately I found a support site with 10,3,3 and reinstalled it. All is well now.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-downgr...

Warmfuzzies

3,975 posts

253 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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cologne2792 said:
Warmfuzzies said:
well the latest and greatest 11.2.1 has severely impacted battery life, losing around 50% overnight, and nothing being used.

Tried to backdate to 10.3.3 but as Apple are no longer signing this, it cant be done through Itunes, and most of the software that says it can do, well, it cant do it.

So I'm stuck with a battery eating, unresponsive (slow to react) bloody Iphone 6.

Pissed doesn't come close.

K
Same thing happened to me but fortunately I found a support site with 10,3,3 and reinstalled it. All is well now.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-downgr...
Thanks, but Apple stopped digitally signing this for the iPhone 6 on the 5th October. So it won’t work for me....,

casbar

1,103 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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I upgraded two iPhone 6s and two iPads last week, no issue with battery life, no change

wibble cb

3,603 posts

207 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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My SE is killing its battery now....30% in a day, when just sat on my desk, and some light use on the way home.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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p1stonhead said:
Seems Apple have been a bit cheeky with managing battery degredation

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/18/geekbench-iph...
Been trying to get through that thread. If I have this right, there are claims that degraded batteries, the phone throttles the CPU? This could be low power, throttled, poor battery condition after many recharges, throttled?

Lots of stuff from apps that show low scores to high scores and stuff in-between?

Still wading through it. Happen to have geek bench 4 in a freebie giveaway and my score looks healthy, though not run the battery one yet.

p1stonhead

25,526 posts

167 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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jmorgan said:
p1stonhead said:
Seems Apple have been a bit cheeky with managing battery degredation

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/18/geekbench-iph...
Been trying to get through that thread. If I have this right, there are claims that degraded batteries, the phone throttles the CPU? This could be low power, throttled, poor battery condition after many recharges, throttled?

Lots of stuff from apps that show low scores to high scores and stuff in-between?

Still wading through it. Happen to have geek bench 4 in a freebie giveaway and my score looks healthy, though not run the battery one yet.
Seems like they 'might' be doing it yes to save the battery from dying after like an hour. I guess a slower phone is better than one that dies so quickly?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Probably explains peoples "nothing wrong, battery great" vs "dead in x number of hours". If it is true that is.

I seem to be on the good side at the moment, 18mths old phone.

How do other manufacturers compare I wonder?

ZesPak

24,427 posts

196 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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jmorgan said:
How do other manufacturers compare I wonder?
Doing loads of similar stuff, often less in the spotlight because Apple.

Other than that, iPhones do have a relatively small battery, which they can get away with because of better hardware/software integration.
Some listed:

iPhone 8: 1900 mAh
iPhone 8+ : 2691 mAh
Galaxy S8: 3000 mAh
Galaxy S8+: 3500 mAh
Pixel 2 XL: 3500 mAh
Oneplus 5: 3300 mAh
LG V30: 3300 mAh

So it's admirable that they can get similar battery life in some scenarios to the big boys.
However, they can't get away from the fact that a (Samsung?) screen is a screen for example, and will still use as much battery in an iPhone than in anything else at the same brightness.
Because of that they are hit a lot harder by, let's say 20% battery degradation.
Keeping batteries that small saves them millions in production, as well as keeping the phone slim.

TL;DR : their batteries are small, have several clever workarounds but don't work in all scenarios.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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ZesPak said:
jmorgan said:
How do other manufacturers compare I wonder?
Doing loads of similar stuff, often less in the spotlight because Apple.

Other than that, iPhones do have a relatively small battery, which they can get away with because of better hardware/software integration.
Some listed:

iPhone 8: 1900 mAh
iPhone 8+ : 2691 mAh
Galaxy S8: 3000 mAh
Galaxy S8+: 3500 mAh
Pixel 2 XL: 3500 mAh
Oneplus 5: 3300 mAh
LG V30: 3300 mAh

So it's admirable that they can get similar battery life in some scenarios to the big boys.
However, they can't get away from the fact that a (Samsung?) screen is a screen for example, and will still use as much battery in an iPhone than in anything else at the same brightness.
Because of that they are hit a lot harder by, let's say 20% battery degradation.
Keeping batteries that small saves them millions in production, as well as keeping the phone slim.

TL;DR : their batteries are small, have several clever workarounds but don't work in all scenarios.
Ah, I was wondering if others play the same tricks, was that the first sentence in your reply aimed at?

When I say tricks, in the days of gadgetry etc. smart moves I think rather than dodgy dealings?