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Remember the good old days when everyone criticised Windows machines for slowing down over time because of clutter and updates and how a fresh install would sort everything out? 
Back then, if you suggested buying a new computer every 1-2 years people would've thought you were clinically insane
Back then, if you suggested buying a new computer every 1-2 years people would've thought you were clinically insane
Older devices do slow down. Encryptions the big factor, especially as most apps now communicate over a secure channel. Newer devices have very efficient encryption modules but older apps don't always know how to to pass that overhead to the newer device in the most efficient manner which is why there is usually a load of app updates around the realese of a device or iOS update.
This affects android as well but security isn't enforced in the same way.
This affects android as well but security isn't enforced in the same way.
Durzel said:
Must admit I find myself puzzled by people praising the form factor, lack of bulk, etc. Surely no one is actually going to use this without a case are they?
It would be a shame to buy a product generally admired for its looks to then put it in a case...How are people finding the lack of the button? I had a brief play with an iPhone X today in store, and couldn’t work out how to exit an app! Found it annoying - it isn’t the first iPhone I’ve not felt the need to upgrade to (I still have a 6s), but after that is was the first one I actively wanted to avoid... I’m sure I just missed a trick though, so am interested to hear your thoughts.
DanL said:
How are people finding the lack of the button? I had a brief play with an iPhone X today in store, and couldn’t work out how to exit an app! Found it annoying.
Removal of the home button means lots of new gestures. Annoying at first I am sure but amazing how quick you get used to things http://bgr.com/2017/11/03/iphone-x-gestures-guide-...
mattley said:
Older devices do slow down. Encryptions the big factor, especially as most apps now communicate over a secure channel. Newer devices have very efficient encryption modules but older apps don't always know how to to pass that overhead to the newer device in the most efficient manner which is why there is usually a load of app updates around the realese of a device or iOS update.
This affects android as well but security isn't enforced in the same way.
What a lot of absolute nonsense!This affects android as well but security isn't enforced in the same way.
ZesPak said:
If it's planned obsolence, that's just complete malpractice and shows very little respect for the consumers tbh.
From a wannabe trillion dollar company? Would you be that surprised?I’ve no doubt they could make iOS 11 work better on older devices than it currently does, but why bother if it makes people go out and purchase newer models.
HRL said:
From a wannabe trillion dollar company? Would you be that surprised?
I’ve no doubt they could make iOS 11 work better on older devices than it currently does, but why bother if it makes people go out and purchase newer models.
I agree, and I hope that's what happens, now OS, not optimized.I’ve no doubt they could make iOS 11 work better on older devices than it currently does, but why bother if it makes people go out and purchase newer models.
However, I wouldn't classify that as planned obsolence.
HRL said:
From a wannabe trillion dollar company? Would you be that surprised?
I’ve no doubt they could make iOS 11 work better on older devices than it currently does, but why bother if it makes people go out and purchase newer models.
The issue is the silicon. They keep making what have been remarkably big jumps in performance which have also led to architecture changes. It’s very hard to optimise the OS to new hardware and keep it performing adequately on older phones. I’ve no doubt they could make iOS 11 work better on older devices than it currently does, but why bother if it makes people go out and purchase newer models.
Interesting thread in the lack of people contributing to it. Go back to the launch of a 5 or a 6 and this thread would be 20 pages long now. I walked passed the Apple shop in Cambridge yesterday and t seemed busy but not heaving.
I just don't see how much better phones can get now and £1000 seems too much to pay for any phone IMHO. I'll stick with my 6s for now.
I just don't see how much better phones can get now and £1000 seems too much to pay for any phone IMHO. I'll stick with my 6s for now.
Just took the case off my iPhone to check the back as I couldn’t recall what model it is. No number there. Checked the about info...no model number there. Found the number ‘a1178’ and stuck it in Google...I have an iPhone 7!!
I think Apple have lost me now...I must be getting too old for this.
I think Apple have lost me now...I must be getting too old for this.
JiggyJaggy said:
So one annoying thing about face recognition...
I set up faced ID for my online banking and paypal etc. However when you are looking at the screen and log out, you are still looking at the screen so it log's you back in again! Anyone have any clever ideas around this design flaw?
I noticed that last night and it’s annoying, particularly with the hsbc business banking app because you need to log off every time otherwise you have to force close it before reopening it.I set up faced ID for my online banking and paypal etc. However when you are looking at the screen and log out, you are still looking at the screen so it log's you back in again! Anyone have any clever ideas around this design flaw?
On the case front, I hate bulky cases and don’t tend to drop my phone so have went for the Spigen Thin fit case and its perfect.
kevbernard said:
mattley said:
Older devices do slow down. Encryptions the big factor, especially as most apps now communicate over a secure channel. Newer devices have very efficient encryption modules but older apps don't always know how to to pass that overhead to the newer device in the most efficient manner which is why there is usually a load of app updates around the realese of a device or iOS update.
This affects android as well but security isn't enforced in the same way.
What a lot of absolute nonsense!This affects android as well but security isn't enforced in the same way.
I’m just curious, I can see the logic about older devices slowing down but it sounds like you have some expertise and think otherwise?
I would have thought it was apps and Operating Systems getting bigger and more complex rather than any deliberate attempt to slow older devices down? They would surely get found out if they did that, and there would be a scandal. At least they support their older devices. They could do a Samsung and only give 2 years support...
12TS said:
Interesting thread in the lack of people contributing to it. Go back to the launch of a 5 or a 6 and this thread would be 20 pages long now. I walked passed the Apple shop in Cambridge yesterday and t seemed busy but not heaving.
I just don't see how much better phones can get now and £1000 seems too much to pay for any phone IMHO. I'll stick with my 6s for now.
Agree. It’s far too expensive and each new release now is just.... faster.... brighter clearer screen etc etc all improvements that are, to the average user, small advances. It’s been a while since there has been anything revolutionary. I just don't see how much better phones can get now and £1000 seems too much to pay for any phone IMHO. I'll stick with my 6s for now.
Thing is though, what could they do that is revolutionary? The devices are now massive so could go smaller but people want bog screens these days. I know that google glasses didn’t take off but communicating with your phone completely hands free by voice and seeing the screen like a HUD in front of you might do it for some but for most people it’s a phone and a mobile internet device. What more can it offer?
craigjm said:
Agree. It’s far too expensive and each new release now is just.... faster.... brighter clearer screen etc etc all improvements that are, to the average user, small advances. It’s been a while since there has been anything revolutionary.
Thing is though, what could they do that is revolutionary? The devices are now massive so could go smaller but people want bog screens these days. I know that google glasses didn’t take off but communicating with your phone completely hands free by voice and seeing the screen like a HUD in front of you might do it for some but for most people it’s a phone and a mobile internet device. What more can it offer?
Exactly. Relatively minor improvements over the previous generation. I find it utterly bizarre that people buy into every generation each year and seem to convince themselves it was a worthwhile purchase. I have no issue with people doing it because it's the latest shiny-shiny because capitalism is awesome but please, at least be honest about it. Thing is though, what could they do that is revolutionary? The devices are now massive so could go smaller but people want bog screens these days. I know that google glasses didn’t take off but communicating with your phone completely hands free by voice and seeing the screen like a HUD in front of you might do it for some but for most people it’s a phone and a mobile internet device. What more can it offer?
TameRacingDriver said:
I would have thought it was apps and Operating Systems getting bigger and more complex rather than any deliberate attempt to slow older devices down? They would surely get found out if they did that, and there would be a scandal. At least they support their older devices. They could do a Samsung and only give 2 years support...
Since updating to IOS 11 my IPhone 6 has intermittent problems streaming radio. I didn’t put it down to the upgrade at the time. 
TameRacingDriver said:
I would have thought it was apps and Operating Systems getting bigger and more complex rather than any deliberate attempt to slow older devices down? They would surely get found out if they did that, and there would be a scandal. At least they support their older devices. They could do a Samsung and only give 2 years support...
Testers have a hard time finding out the clock speed of the CPU.iOS isn't opensource, they can put any sort of code in there and it can go by untraced pretty easily.
Mind you, as per my previous posts, I don't think they are doing it deliberately. I do believe they're not stopping it (like new OS only optimised for new devices), but that's another story.
TameRacingDriver said:
I would have thought it was apps and Operating Systems getting bigger and more complex rather than any deliberate attempt to slow older devices down? They would surely get found out if they did that, and there would be a scandal. At least they support their older devices. They could do a Samsung and only give 2 years support...
Samsung don't roll out unsuitable OS to devices that can't run it. IOS 5 totally screwed my original iPad. From every other perspective it still functioned, but was just an unstable mess. I ended up selling it on eBay.
Google are no better though. They rolled out a version of Android that bricked original Nexus 7 devices. That was little over 2 years after they introduced the new model. We had 3 devices bricked in our family. At least in that case you can reinstall the old OS.
A lot of people tell you that you just have to accept that and buy a new device every few years. In my case that was nearly a grands worth of kit killed by OTA updates from the manufacturers.
That's why I'm typing this from a Samsung tablet.
Rawwr said:
Remember the good old days when everyone criticised Windows machines for slowing down over time because of clutter and updates and how a fresh install would sort everything out?
Back then, if you suggested buying a new computer every 1-2 years people would've thought you were clinically insane
Like above, a phone is a small computer these days, but this business model is quite insane. Back then, if you suggested buying a new computer every 1-2 years people would've thought you were clinically insane
I like my new shiny, but it's crazy just to think my 2012 4S had to be sold for spares a couple of years ago. My 2011 S2 still works... barely.
Can you imagine a £800 laptop not working properly after 4 years?
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