Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

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justinio

1,151 posts

87 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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audi321 said:
They do it to make you buy the new phone.....period!
It's called a full stop. Period is something my good lady wife has to make my life miserable.

LarryUSA

4,319 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Just posted this in the iOS 11 thread, but I bought a new battery a few days ago and fitted it last night to an ailing iPhone 6s. The battery performance was poor and the phone so sluggish. Night and day difference, so snappy now - look at the benchmarks and CPU below:


feef

5,206 posts

182 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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ReallyReallyGood said:
Apple's reasoning smells like BS.

If I were to put a brand new battery in my iPhone, will it become faster? No.
The whole basis of the discovery was due to exactly that fact, that in an independent test, it DID get faster with a new battery

ReallyReallyGood

1,620 posts

129 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Ha, I take back what I said in that case!

Still, why not be open about it?

Dracoro

8,661 posts

244 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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ReallyReallyGood said:
Apple's reasoning smells like BS.

If I were to put a brand new battery in my iPhone, will it become faster? No.
That’s NOT what they are claiming.
IF your iPhone is slowing down under load due to poor(er) battery health then with a new battery it would not slow down under those conditions. If it regularly slows down the a new battery should alleviate these slowdowns and the device will seem quicker (as you got used to it slowing down).

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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I don't mind all of this if they didn't have the monopoly on new batteries.

I'm surprised noone has picked up on this similar to how car makers are regulated by the governmnent when it comes to parts and service.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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jamoor said:
I don't mind all of this if they didn't have the monopoly on new batteries.

I'm surprised noone has picked up on this similar to how car makers are regulated by the governmnent when it comes to parts and service.
Looks possible
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+6s+Battery+Rep...

chris285

811 posts

131 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Just ordered a replacement battery off amazon for 16quid for my 6+, see if that brings it back to life somewhat

ging84

8,829 posts

145 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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pretty sure if a car manufacturer were to disable the eml light when thier cars went into reduced power and just claim that reduced power mode was a feature to maintain fuel efficiency on cars as they age and refuse to fix the faults if it was under warranty it would be considered an absolute scandal.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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jmorgan said:
You can't buy a genuine battery

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

117 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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LarryUSA said:
Just posted this in the iOS 11 thread, but I bought a new battery a few days ago and fitted it last night to an ailing iPhone 6s. The battery performance was poor and the phone so sluggish. Night and day difference, so snappy now - look at the benchmarks and CPU below:

If anyone in this thread really thinks their less than 2 year old phone needs its CPU clocked to less than 1/3rd of normal operating speed, you deserve to buy apple products hehe

Saleen836

11,061 posts

208 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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The thing a lot of people forget regarding the battery is it will fail/not hold charge after a while, I know people who charge their iphones 2 or 3 times a day due to the stupid amount of time they spend on the damn thing, 18months later the battery is in need of replacing and Apple gets the blame.

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

117 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Saleen836 said:
The thing a lot of people forget regarding the battery is it will fail/not hold charge after a while, I know people who charge their iphones 2 or 3 times a day due to the stupid amount of time they spend on the damn thing, 18months later the battery is in need of replacing and Apple gets the blame.
As opposed to android users that don't spend a stupid amount of time on their phone?

iPhone 6s battery = 1,715mAh
My Lenovo battery = 5100mAh

It's an engineering and product decision.

audi321

5,156 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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My 6 was dying and after IOS11 it became almost unusable. I put a new battery in and it was much better, but still not what you would call snappy.

If they had slowed my machine down to protect my ailing battery, why didn't they speed it back up again when the new one was fitted?

The point is, why is Apple slowing my machine down without giving me a) warning they are doing it and b) the option to opt out?

Yes, I bought an X after that and fell into their trap lol.


chow pan toon

12,356 posts

236 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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audi321 said:
My 6 was dying and after IOS11 it became almost unusable. I put a new battery in and it was much better, but still not what you would call snappy.

If they had slowed my machine down to protect my ailing battery, why didn't they speed it back up again when the new one was fitted?

The point is, why is Apple slowing my machine down without giving me a) warning they are doing it and b) the option to opt out?

Yes, I bought an X after that and fell into their trap lol.
I think you've answered your own question.

From Apple's point of view it makes perfect sense to underspec the battery and then provide a "fix" after, ooh, about 2 years that makes it seem like your phone is too slow to cope with normal work, rather than your battery is knackered. Hardly a surprise to see people defending them, Apple fans are different.

MitchT

15,788 posts

208 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Saleen836 said:
I'm still using a 4S, had it for just over 2 years (bought used) it's had 2 new batteries and works fine, I guess if it was full of apps a lot might not work due to needing the latest i.o.s, it no longer updates so will keep using until it stops
I'm still using a 4S which I bought new when they came out more than six years ago. It's still on its original battery. I didn't update beyond iOS7 as 8 sounded like a dog's dinner and 9 is optimised for a much larger screen. Works fine except for many of the apps not being the latest version.

Pheo

3,324 posts

201 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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chow pan toon said:
I think you've answered your own question.

From Apple's point of view it makes perfect sense to underspec the battery and then provide a "fix" after, ooh, about 2 years that makes it seem like your phone is too slow to cope with normal work, rather than your battery is knackered. Hardly a surprise to see people defending them, Apple fans are different.
Not sure that’s true - it’ll speed back up, but it’s not an objective test because it’s running a different version of iOS... so differing requirements on the phone vs new.



Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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audi321 said:
My 6 was dying and after IOS11 it became almost unusable. I put a new battery in and it was much better, but still not what you would call snappy.

If they had slowed my machine down to protect my ailing battery, why didn't they speed it back up again when the new one was fitted?

The point is, why is Apple slowing my machine down without giving me a) warning they are doing it and b) the option to opt out?

Yes, I bought an X after that and fell into their trap lol.
Because the latest os demands more resources than the os that was around when the phone was new?

Would you expect a PowerBook G3 to be as fast as a new MacBook Pro?

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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chow pan toon said:
I think you've answered your own question.

From Apple's point of view it makes perfect sense to underspec the battery and then provide a "fix" after, ooh, about 2 years that makes it seem like your phone is too slow to cope with normal work, rather than your battery is knackered. Hardly a surprise to see people defending them, Apple fans are different.
I’m not an Apple fan and I don’t condemn Apple either. I have an iPhone SE and plan to get a Sony XZ1 Compact next.

I do see the sense in this, although I don’t entirely agree with it and I don’t think it’s right to expect a phone that’s from a few generations ago to be as “snappy” as the latest model

audi321

5,156 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
audi321 said:
My 6 was dying and after IOS11 it became almost unusable. I put a new battery in and it was much better, but still not what you would call snappy.

If they had slowed my machine down to protect my ailing battery, why didn't they speed it back up again when the new one was fitted?

The point is, why is Apple slowing my machine down without giving me a) warning they are doing it and b) the option to opt out?

Yes, I bought an X after that and fell into their trap lol.
Because the latest os demands more resources than the os that was around when the phone was new?

Would you expect a PowerBook G3 to be as fast as a new MacBook Pro?
No because one is 15 years older than the other. We're talking 2 or 3 years here!