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hstewie said:
hstewie said:Munter said:
No idea. But using ie6 will mess up your life... Move on as fast as you possibly can. Drop any vendor providing something that requires it. Run boy. Run for the hills.
I so hope that's a whoosh on your part and he isn't serious 
Gave me some problems with one pc and would not let windows totally load, kept getting a stop code error.
Fortunately there was an option to roll back in the advanced options so went down that route, strangely after I rolled back to the previous version it updated again on its own and worked with no problems.
Second pc no problems at all with the update and windows is loading quicker.
Fortunately there was an option to roll back in the advanced options so went down that route, strangely after I rolled back to the previous version it updated again on its own and worked with no problems.
Second pc no problems at all with the update and windows is loading quicker.
deckster said:
Funk said:
Never ever let new MS feature updates install when they ask you to, they often create far more issues than they resolve.
This just isn't true and repeating disinformation like this does the internet no favours at all.The wider damage caused by unpatched machines far, far exceeds those rare instances when people are inconvenienced by an update. By allowing your computers to connect to the internet without the latest updates, you are exposing everybody else to the risk that you will be compromised and take part in anything from spam relaying to massive coordinated DDOS botnet attacks.
It's like getting your vaccinations. Yes, there are probably rare instances of adverse effects but overall, the world is better if we all keep ourselves protected.
And if you noticed I mentioned 'feature updates' not 'security updates'. It's the feature updates which seem to break things (and aren't critical to take right away). That said, you should be running decent anti-virus, firewall and anti-malware anyway.
Funk said:
Microsoft's updates have been breaking machines left, right and centre - the advice is to defer; never be one of Microsoft's free beta testers.
Your advice, maybe. The advice is to keep all your machines patched and up-to-date.Funk said:
There are reasons why corporations prevent Windows machines from updating right away...
Indeed there are. And those reasons are generally to do with keeping a consistent system image and controlling when and there devices are updated, rather than in case of borkage.Funk said:
And if you noticed I mentioned 'feature updates' not 'security updates'. It's the feature updates which seem to break things (and aren't critical to take right away).
Right. Because these updates don't ever contain a whole raft of security fixes as well as new features. And subsequent security patches definitely don't depend on you having installed the previous releases.deckster said:
Funk said:
Microsoft's updates have been breaking machines left, right and centre - the advice is to defer; never be one of Microsoft's free beta testers.
Your advice, maybe. The advice is to keep all your machines patched and up-to-date.Funk said:
There are reasons why corporations prevent Windows machines from updating right away...
Indeed there are. And those reasons are generally to do with keeping a consistent system image and controlling when and there devices are updated, rather than in case of borkage.Funk said:
And if you noticed I mentioned 'feature updates' not 'security updates'. It's the feature updates which seem to break things (and aren't critical to take right away).
Right. Because these updates don't ever contain a whole raft of security fixes as well as new features. And subsequent security patches definitely don't depend on you having installed the previous releases.Funk said:
The reality is that deferring Windows feature updates until MS iron out the bugs is a good idea. Unless you enjoy data loss, rebuilding machines from the ground up etc. I'm not saying don't ever install them - I'm saying don't be the field tester for something that has a significant chance of borking your machine.
Your mileage will of course vary, but over the years I've gone through countless Windows updates over many different machines. I have had precisely one complete failure, which it will probably amuse you to learn was a mandatory update to my work laptop that was pre-screened by our IT department .Funk said:
chris390 said:
I did this a couple of days ago.
When done i got a message to choose language which seemed odd. Then got stuck in a loop with no ikons on the screen and no backup options or go back to previous windows working.
No options worked apart from right back to factory settings so all personal files lost , photos etc and all downloads lost.
Laptop started as per new but with even more free crap on it, games etc and some of the new stuff cannot be uninstalled.
As per the link above i would say dont do it.
Never ever do any major update to Windows without having all your files backed up. I'm afraid my sympathy for those with 'lost data' these days is waning - with solutions like Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive or even a cheap portable external hard drive, it's so cheap and easy to do nowadays that there's no excuse for not doing it. When done i got a message to choose language which seemed odd. Then got stuck in a loop with no ikons on the screen and no backup options or go back to previous windows working.
No options worked apart from right back to factory settings so all personal files lost , photos etc and all downloads lost.
Laptop started as per new but with even more free crap on it, games etc and some of the new stuff cannot be uninstalled.
As per the link above i would say dont do it.
You should be backing up regularly by default.
More corporates, in my experience, are applying updates upon release now because the risks that are associated with doing so are now far outnumbered by the risks involved with not doing so.
I personally, with 20+ years IT experience, will update as soon as they come out. I have seen far more problems with non patched systems than newly patched systems.
Just ensure you have adequate backups and update asap would be my advice.
Otherwise next thing you know you're still running IE6 :-)
I personally, with 20+ years IT experience, will update as soon as they come out. I have seen far more problems with non patched systems than newly patched systems.
Just ensure you have adequate backups and update asap would be my advice.
Otherwise next thing you know you're still running IE6 :-)
WinstonWolf said:
techiedave said:
Will this update mess with my ie6 browser settings ?
It'll probably bugger your Alta Vista search engine good and proper.I was recommended to upgrade to Vista a bit ago. Something to do with aero would make my internet experience better.
I've stuck with 2000 but maybe its time to move on
TonyRPH said:
Slightly off topic, but a company I worked for a while back (payday loan type co) - all their emails to customers began with:
Hey <customer name>,
Welcome to ....
etc.
So unprofessional.
But when I mentioned it, I was told I'm an old fart and not 'down with the kids' essentially.
Never mind the fact the many customers were 40's / 50's ...
You are an old fart. This kind of language works better than formal language for online transactions in most industries. Hey <customer name>,
Welcome to ....
etc.
So unprofessional.
But when I mentioned it, I was told I'm an old fart and not 'down with the kids' essentially.
Never mind the fact the many customers were 40's / 50's ...
techiedave said:
WinstonWolf said:
techiedave said:
Will this update mess with my ie6 browser settings ?
It'll probably bugger your Alta Vista search engine good and proper.I was recommended to upgrade to Vista a bit ago. Something to do with aero would make my internet experience better.
I've stuck with 2000 but maybe its time to move on
motco said:
If you have a floppy drive I can lend you a copy of Windows 3.1 (IIRC), Paradox, and perhaps a late DOS version too.
Cheers m8 Sort of like a back up you mean ?
One of the big problems I have with the upgrade to Vista is thats its a DVD and my tray thing doesn't work with it. I was told the tray thing might be dirty and to blow into it really hard.
I did this a few times and let me tell you it nearly finished me off I had to sit down afterwards.
Made no difference I can hear the disc thing spinning but then nothing happens. I rang the bloke up at the market stall I bought the vista thing from but he wasn't very helpful. Said I had to put it in the DVD drawer and it will start up. I knew he was fobbing me off as I cant see what putting a DVD in under the telly is going to do for my PC.
Anyway it turns out I have a CD player in the PC and some PC's now have a DVD instead. So I would like to take you up on your very kind voffer and actually ask a favour. Do you have a copy of vista on a floppy ? I know its a big ask
techiedave said:
motco said:
If you have a floppy drive I can lend you a copy of Windows 3.1 (IIRC), Paradox, and perhaps a late DOS version too.
Cheers m8 Sort of like a back up you mean ?
One of the big problems I have with the upgrade to Vista is thats its a DVD and my tray thing doesn't work with it. I was told the tray thing might be dirty and to blow into it really hard.
I did this a few times and let me tell you it nearly finished me off I had to sit down afterwards.
Made no difference I can hear the disc thing spinning but then nothing happens. I rang the bloke up at the market stall I bought the vista thing from but he wasn't very helpful. Said I had to put it in the DVD drawer and it will start up. I knew he was fobbing me off as I cant see what putting a DVD in under the telly is going to do for my PC.
Anyway it turns out I have a CD player in the PC and some PC's now have a DVD instead. So I would like to take you up on your very kind voffer and actually ask a favour. Do you have a copy of vista on a floppy ? I know its a big ask
BJG1 said:
You are an old fart. This kind of language works better than formal language for online transactions in most industries.
"Hey" is recent American nonsense and will wind a great many people up. Use "Hi" if you must in such an email. Though "Hello" is better as even "Hi" has US origins, but has become acceptable here. Not everyone has been indoctrinated by trash US tv shows.zarjaz1991 said:
"Hey" is recent American nonsense and will wind a great many people up. Use "Hi" if you must in such an email. Though "Hello" is better as even "Hi" has US origins, but has become acceptable here. Not everyone has been indoctrinated by trash US tv shows.
The majority of MS's English speaking clients will be American/Canadian and it's pointless localising messages like this - a waste of time and money.Gassing Station | Computers, Gadgets & Stuff | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff