New MacBook Pros

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bitchstewie

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51,206 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Anyone else getting one after the long wait?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/apples-new...

AndrewEH1

4,917 posts

153 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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bhstewie said:
Anyone else getting one after the long wait?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/apples-new...
My 2012 MBP is showing it's age, so if the new improved keyboard isn't a hot broken mess that it was on the last gen I might pick one up

...still wish it had mag-safe charging and more ports

qube_TA

8,402 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Half tempted as my 2016 model isn't quite as quick as I'd like and I don't like using the desktop for gigs.

Glad to see new Minis are finally on their way, but very interested in the new Mac Pro for next year.


Silverbullet767

10,704 posts

206 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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I have a 2014 macbook pro, the MGXC2B/A. It has magsafe and loads of sockets, if I were to replace it with something new I wouldn't even look at apple anymore, no magsafe is a backwards step, never mind the removal of every bloody port but 1. Previous to that I had a 2008 macbook pro that did me proud, magsafe + loads of connections.

Who knows what the hell they were thinking removing the lot.

Phunk

1,976 posts

171 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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If you check every box, it goes up to £6200 redface

IIIRestorerIII

842 posts

228 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Will wait for more feedback on the latest keyboards. I was replacing my 2012 model in January and opted for a second hand 2015 with the older keyboard for now. 16GB memory runs at around 70% according to the brilliant iStats app and that's mostly down to Chrome.

New one specced with 32GB of memory comes in around £3k. I really need to finish my studies and start bringing some money in first. Thanks for the heads up though.

leglessAlex

5,448 posts

141 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Phunk said:
If you check every box, it goes up to £6200 redface
It's about £1500 more expensive than the Dell XPS with 32GB, i9 and 1TB storage. Okay, there has often been an Apple tax, but that's hard to swallow.

Still, it's good that they've done it. Was Apple actually worried I wonder? It's not like them to update out of the blue like this. Their computers in general seem to be getting a bit of a hammering on youtube recently for being out of date and too expensive.

CrouchingWayne

686 posts

176 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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leglessAlex said:
It's about £1500 more expensive than the Dell XPS with 32GB, i9 and 1TB storage. Okay, there has often been an Apple tax, but that's hard to swallow.

Still, it's good that they've done it. Was Apple actually worried I wonder? It's not like them to update out of the blue like this. Their computers in general seem to be getting a bit of a hammering on youtube recently for being out of date and too expensive.
I was thinking the same, when I was looking at laptops relatively recently for the other half Windows based competitors were equaling or surpassing Apple in almost every stat, yet still undercutting them price wise.

Edited by CrouchingWayne on Thursday 12th July 21:17

qube_TA

8,402 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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leglessAlex said:
Phunk said:
If you check every box, it goes up to £6200 redface
It's about £1500 more expensive than the Dell XPS with 32GB, i9 and 1TB storage. Okay, there has often been an Apple tax, but that's hard to swallow.

Still, it's good that they've done it. Was Apple actually worried I wonder? It's not like them to update out of the blue like this. Their computers in general seem to be getting a bit of a hammering on youtube recently for being out of date and too expensive.
Ticking all the boxes means it comes with a 4TB PCIe Enterprise class SSD drive in it,

Essentially one of these https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4tb-intel-dc-p4500...



leglessAlex

5,448 posts

141 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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qube_TA said:
leglessAlex said:
Phunk said:
If you check every box, it goes up to £6200 redface
It's about £1500 more expensive than the Dell XPS with 32GB, i9 and 1TB storage. Okay, there has often been an Apple tax, but that's hard to swallow.

Still, it's good that they've done it. Was Apple actually worried I wonder? It's not like them to update out of the blue like this. Their computers in general seem to be getting a bit of a hammering on youtube recently for being out of date and too expensive.
Ticking all the boxes means it comes with a 4TB PCIe Enterprise class SSD drive in it,

Essentially one of these https://www.scan.co.uk/products/4tb-intel-dc-p4500...
Yeah, I phrased that badly, I meant it was that much more than the similarly specced XPS.

New 15" XPS with i9, 32GB RAM, 4k screen and 1TB storage: £2,599

New MacBook Pro with i9, 32GB RAM and 1TB of storage: £3,689

Ok, so £1,100 or so, not £1,500. That changes to £1,400 difference though when you change the processor on both models to an i7.

I get that there are no shortage of people out there with money, and that Apple products have never been cheap. I also welcome the fact that for once Apple laptops have a processor in them that isn't about to be outdated in a couple of months. They'll probably have a better battery life too (for lightweight tasks), and the trackpad will be unquestionably better to use.

I get there are positives. But £1,100-1,400 more than the equivalent Windows based machine? I really like using OSX, but that's a tough pill to swallow. Even if it wasn't, and I know it's not very PH of me to say this, but I just couldn't afford that. I've been loyal to Apple for a long time, but I'm being priced out. Maybe Apple just doesn't care? I'm not sure I'm alone in that situation though...

okenemem

1,358 posts

194 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Phunk said:
If you check every box, it goes up to £6200 redface
ridiculous

Ynox

1,704 posts

179 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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Sweet spot is probably a mid range with 512gb SSD and 32gb RAM.

Annoyingly I refreshed my work machine back in December last year (went for a MacBook pro with 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD).

I'd be interested in seeing how the battery life / weight / heat is on these. They may end up being awesome machines if they've fixed a lot of the problems that the usual mobile workstation like machines have (think Lenovo P series etc with a huge power supply etc).

I saw they _finally_ have a 13" quad core too. That's tempting for a new personal machine, although at 1750 quid or so I'm not sure!

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Nope - I don't see why I should line Apple's pockets when I can buy something equally as good for significantly less.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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I bought my kids a 2015 13" Macbook Pro with i5, 8Gb and 128Gb SSD. The Macbooks have been trouble free despite being used several hours a day every day by teenagers and I've had no complaints about performance, battery life, or reliability.

Same spec (but newer versions of same chips) is about £1250, so another £250 over what I paid, which isn't that bad. However I'd want to double the RAM and the SSD to 16Gb and 256Gb (most of their stuff is on onedrive or streams, but they could do with a bit more room for software), and that really pushes the price up. Seriously considering pushing them back to Windows now...

I did want to get them a 15" but that price jump is something else, don't remember it being that much of a jump back in 2015?


Durzel

12,265 posts

168 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Going to see what the keyboards are like before making any kind of decision.

They're apparently quieter, but the fundamental design is unchanged.....

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Think my MBP is a 2010 model, it's running High Sierra and it's fine for my uses. Popped an SSD in it a few years ago but it still works admirably for an eight year old laptop. I reckon it's still got a few more years in it yet...

leglessAlex

5,448 posts

141 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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tankplanker said:
I did want to get them a 15" but that price jump is something else, don't remember it being that much of a jump back in 2015?
If the site I found was correct, the 13" and 15" were £999 and £1599 respectively in 2015.

That is about the same as the latest 13" and 15" at £1749 and £2349. You can get the non-touchbar one for a fair whack cheaper of course, but it's not really a like for like comparison seeimg as there is no non-touchbar 15".

ecs

1,228 posts

170 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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Been waiting for these for such a long time - my mid-2014 is really showing it's age now.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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ecs said:
Been waiting for these for such a long time - my mid-2014 is really showing it's age now.
Has it got an SSD? If not it's a worthwhile upgrade. Mine's four years older and it's still spot on for what I do.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

279 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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leglessAlex said:
If the site I found was correct, the 13" and 15" were £999 and £1599 respectively in 2015.

That is about the same as the latest 13" and 15" at £1749 and £2349. You can get the non-touchbar one for a fair whack cheaper of course, but it's not really a like for like comparison seeimg as there is no non-touchbar 15".
Depends if you want the touchbar? I wouldn't so would not pay for it on the 13" at that price differential.