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My understanding is it's soldered/onboard so it's down to whether the stores stock any custom models - they can't "expand" a stock one.
To those comparing SSD speeds keep in mind sequential speeds are mostly meaningless unless you do a lot of video or things that use sequential access.
Random IO is most likely to impact you day to day.
To those comparing SSD speeds keep in mind sequential speeds are mostly meaningless unless you do a lot of video or things that use sequential access.
Random IO is most likely to impact you day to day.
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16. - You can't add more later.
- Memory requirements for Apps and OS just keep going up.
- More memory improves resale values
silentbrown said:
16.
It isn't just the tech spec with Apple, the R&D costs include things like...- You can't add more later.
- Memory requirements for Apps and OS just keep going up.
- More memory improves resale values
When you open the lid with a finger - the base of the laptop doesn't move. ( Try that with ant other make )
I'm sure there are dozens of other things too.
When I compare my 2017 MacBook pro - to my customer issued Dell - you really do notice and appreciate the difference.
It isn't just the tech specs.
Troubleatmill said:
I'm sure there are dozens of other things too.
Oh, certainly, and they cut both ways. Neither's perfect.The Dell is a tad heavier, has a webcam that points up your nose. If you're gaming the i7 versions overheat the voltage regulators and start throttling the CPU speeds. From my experience they're not as well manufactured as Macs either.
On the other hand, XPS memory and SSD are user-upgradeable, you get a full touchscreen, a decent selection of ports (rather than a bag of dongles), and excellent on-site service rather than return to store. Neither has magsafe now
Troubleatmill said:
It isn't just the tech specs.
Of course! In fact, that's rather the point isn't it? If you're not paying for the spec, you have to look at the other things.
OSX is wonderful to use I think, and the trackpads are always leagues ahead of anything else. The screen is always fantastic colour wise even if it isn't touch or 4k. Macs look very professional too, which can sometimes matter depending on where you work. After sales service is generally quite good as long as there's nothing seriously wrong with it. If there is, then it seems to be luck of the draw. They work brilliantly with other Apple devices too.
There are loads of reasons to buy Apple I think, but do they justify the premium? When the premium was several hundred or so, I thought it absolutely was worth it, hence me having two MacBook Pros in a row and an iMac, as well as quite a few iPads.
Now the premium is well over a thousand pounds, I personally find it hard to justify. I just don't have enough money to burn it like that. Plenty of people do though, and that's completely their choice.
wiffmaster said:
Finally! My Macbook Air 2011 is basically dead (top Qwerty row broken, meaning I have to use on-screen-keyboard to type)
New 13" touch bar, but upgraded from 8GB to 16GB RAM. Due to get here on the 31st and can't come quickly enough.
thats probably what I'll be ordering when i come back from my holibobs, hopefully by then some decent reviews will be up online. I love my MacBook air but it struggles a bit with some photography post processing. New 13" touch bar, but upgraded from 8GB to 16GB RAM. Due to get here on the 31st and can't come quickly enough.
Edited by wiffmaster on Sunday 15th July 00:08
thebraketester said:
ecs said:
Been waiting for these for such a long time - my mid-2014 is really showing it's age now.
What have you been waiting for that wasn't in the 2017 MBP TB?Spec of the 2012 machine was i7 2.3, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD and the 1.5GB graphics memory.
Spec of the TB was i7 2.7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD with the AMD 455 chip.
The difference between the 2 when using it for live work within Adobe Creative Suite was negligible. I think the 2017 machine was 0.2 seconds faster to ingest, process and display a Canon 5D4 RAW file when using Capture One. The difference when exporting files and doing processing tasks wasn't that great but I rarely use a laptop to do those tasks. Apart from perception it wasn't a necessary upgrade. I think I've had mine out of its bag 6x in the 14 months I've owned it.
I can imagine these new ones would probably widen this gap a fair bit and make it a worthy update.
ashleyman said:
LeadFarmer said:
If the new ones don't have magsafe, what do they now have?
USB-C. MagSafe was such a great idea.Has anyone tried the magnetic usb C things you can buy that turns it into a "Magsafe"?
WinstonWolf said:
Think my MBP is a 2010 model, it's running High Sierra and it's fine for my uses. Popped an SSD in it a few years ago but it still works admirably for an eight year old laptop. I reckon it's still got a few more years in it yet...
I also have an 11 MBP that is still working pretty well and people on these threads do make me laugh 'My 2014 is getting a bit slow now'. They would be surprised to know that national Newspapers are assembled on 2014-2015 kit! bakerstreet said:
I also have an 11 MBP that is still working pretty well and people on these threads do make me laugh 'My 2014 is getting a bit slow now'. They would be surprised to know that national Newspapers are assembled on 2014-2015 kit!
Indeed, how many tasks are processor bound ?and if you want real speed you don't use a Macbook
ashleyman said:
thebraketester said:
ecs said:
Been waiting for these for such a long time - my mid-2014 is really showing it's age now.
What have you been waiting for that wasn't in the 2017 MBP TB?Spec of the 2012 machine was i7 2.3, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD and the 1.5GB graphics memory.
Spec of the TB was i7 2.7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD with the AMD 455 chip.
The difference between the 2 when using it for live work within Adobe Creative Suite was negligible. I think the 2017 machine was 0.2 seconds faster to ingest, process and display a Canon 5D4 RAW file when using Capture One. The difference when exporting files and doing processing tasks wasn't that great but I rarely use a laptop to do those tasks. Apart from perception it wasn't a necessary upgrade. I think I've had mine out of its bag 6x in the 14 months I've owned it.
I can imagine these new ones would probably widen this gap a fair bit and make it a worthy update.
Using Final Cut on my 2016 MacBook is night and day compared to my old one
Honestly, only on PH 
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