Wireless and Health Issues
Discussion
FM Radio is about 100 times more powerful than Wifi
TV Signals are about 200 times more powerful
GSM Phone about 268 times more powerful
Microwave oven about 100,000 times more powerful
Sunny Day is about 3 Million times more powerful
Perhaps suggest sun block?
http://scienceblogs.com/builtonfacts/2009/09/17/wi...
http://www.alphr.com/technology/1000878/reality-ch...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC55049...
TV Signals are about 200 times more powerful
GSM Phone about 268 times more powerful
Microwave oven about 100,000 times more powerful
Sunny Day is about 3 Million times more powerful
Perhaps suggest sun block?
http://scienceblogs.com/builtonfacts/2009/09/17/wi...
http://www.alphr.com/technology/1000878/reality-ch...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC55049...
Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 9th October 22:18
Sigh. On the other hand, if they believe that WiFi can harm perhaps they will be gullible enough to buy one of these: https://energydots.co.uk
Lord Marylebone said:
Attend the meeting, and when asked if wireless signals have the potential to affect humans physically or mentally, just say that "you have absolutely no idea".
I still think the OP should not attend the meeting, but as it sounds like he's being too nice for his own good then this bit is key. It's absolutely essential to not engage in any kind of dialogue, even just 'no of course wifi doesn't affect people', as you've instantly opened up the possibility that there is something to discuss. Deny all knowledge and just keep saying "I don't know anything about that".MattyB_ said:
I completely agree that I'm in no way qualified to have this conversation. Both the head and a governer have already had meetings, but the parent is insistent on (in his words) "wanting to know what the school are doing to protect his children from wifi signals"
Ultimately, I'm going there as a favour - the school are one of our customers, and I do IT advisory/project work for them, of which installing wifi (years and years ago) was something I oversaw for them, hence it kinda coming back to me.
So it's a single tUltimately, I'm going there as a favour - the school are one of our customers, and I do IT advisory/project work for them, of which installing wifi (years and years ago) was something I oversaw for them, hence it kinda coming back to me.
t of a parent wanting to seem important - the school management are tossers for indulging him.You don't "have to go", you are choosing to go - you accept you are not qualified to take this discussion - frankly you are being your own worst enemy here, you do not have the capability to satisfy this w
kers unsubstantiated concerns and you certainly cannot answer his question "wanting to know what the school are doing to protect his children from wifi signals" - you cannot speak for the school.If you do go, which you shouldn't, tell the t
t you have no idea what the school is doing about it and that you frankly don't care.Or go and enjoy yourself, wear a tin foil hat, insist he turns off his mobile phone and joins you in the middle of the football field to avoid all wifi signals ......... then when out of hearing of everyone else, tell him to foxtrot oscar!
sgrimshaw said:
Or go and enjoy yourself, wear a tin foil hat, insist he turns off his mobile phone and joins you in the middle of the football field to avoid all wifi signals ......... then when out of hearing of everyone else, tell him to foxtrot oscar!
Hand him a note, "Don't say anything, they are listening in, follow me"Look around furtively as you lead him to a toilet.
When you get there turn on all the taps.
Take the note off him and rip it into tiny pieces and flush it down the loo and swear him to secrecy.
Tell him it's a secret conspiracy and you are trying to penetrate the inner sanctum.
String him a story about the secret war on Earth between the lizards and grey aliens.
Tell him his kid is safe providing he doesn't go to University, that is were they swap the doppelgangers for people.
Ask him to play along when you return to the room.
You are really on his side but cannot admit it.
Return to the room and deny everything but wink at him each time.
When he leaves, firmly shake his hand and confess it has been so hard fighting the good fight alone and you're pleased to have a new ally while smiling broadly like a lunatic.
4x4Tyke said:
Hand him a note, "Don't say anything, they are listening in, follow me"
Look around furtively as you lead him to a toilet.
When you get there turn on all the taps.
Take the note off him and rip it into tiny pieces and flush it down the loo and swear him to secrecy.
Tell him it's a secret conspiracy and you are trying to penetrate the inner sanctum.
String him a story about the secret war on Earth between the lizards and grey aliens.
Tell him his kid is safe providing he doesn't go to University, that is were they swap the doppelgangers for people.
Ask him to play along when you return to the room.
You are really on his side but cannot admit it.
Return to the room and deny everything but wink at him each time.
When he leaves, firmly shake his hand and confess it has been so hard fighting the good fight alone and you're pleased to have a new ally while smiling broadly like a lunatic.
Look around furtively as you lead him to a toilet.
When you get there turn on all the taps.
Take the note off him and rip it into tiny pieces and flush it down the loo and swear him to secrecy.
Tell him it's a secret conspiracy and you are trying to penetrate the inner sanctum.
String him a story about the secret war on Earth between the lizards and grey aliens.
Tell him his kid is safe providing he doesn't go to University, that is were they swap the doppelgangers for people.
Ask him to play along when you return to the room.
You are really on his side but cannot admit it.
Return to the room and deny everything but wink at him each time.
When he leaves, firmly shake his hand and confess it has been so hard fighting the good fight alone and you're pleased to have a new ally while smiling broadly like a lunatic.
deckster said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Attend the meeting, and when asked if wireless signals have the potential to affect humans physically or mentally, just say that "you have absolutely no idea".
I still think the OP should not attend the meeting, but as it sounds like he's being too nice for his own good then this bit is key. It's absolutely essential to not engage in any kind of dialogue, even just 'no of course wifi doesn't affect people', as you've instantly opened up the possibility that there is something to discuss. Deny all knowledge and just keep saying "I don't know anything about that".It's is completely ridiculous for an IT technician to be giving health and medical advice.
But it sounds like the OP is being forced to go by his boss, or at least leaned upon.
The school ned to be aware of http://www.hse.gov.uk/radiation/nonionising/emf.ht...
Theee is likely to be no risk to health from correctly worknijg equipment, but odd individuals are kore sensitive.
Theee is likely to be no risk to health from correctly worknijg equipment, but odd individuals are kore sensitive.
He could just go and tell him he is being a dick to his face, the OP is being put in an unfair situation and this should really be answered by elf 'n' safety.
Has the school had an RF exposure assessment? (Think strange person walking around with a funny looking bit of kit, tutting regulary, making notes and generally scaring everyone who sees them).
As others have said, avoid having anything to do with this.
Has the school had an RF exposure assessment? (Think strange person walking around with a funny looking bit of kit, tutting regulary, making notes and generally scaring everyone who sees them).
As others have said, avoid having anything to do with this.
Just to put this one to bed, despite the overwhelming advice not to go, I still went through with it.
TBH, I expected some opinionated, old, cranky bloke with extreme views. In fact, it was just some bloke who wanted the best for his kids. He admitted he didn't care about his exposure, but he'd read (and watched) some YT video's and he was just concerned for his kids health and future. I've got alot of respect for that.
This is what he wanted to show, but ironically, the wireless and 4G was too poor in the meeting room to get a signal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0NEaPTu9oI
So yeah, not as bad as I thought.
MattyB_ said:
he'd read (and watched) some YT video's and he was just concerned for his kids health and future. I've got alot of respect for that.
I'm afraid those kind of people are, in my opinion, the same as the ones that watch Youtube videos and decide not to get their kids vaccinated. Or watch youtube videos of Alex Jones and start to think that Sandy Hook might have been a hoax.I personally treat everything on Youtube as fictitious entertainment. Many don't. They see it as a source of information that is no different to being told something by a doctor, a scientist or a historian.
Quite frightening actually.
I'm not saying the guy you met was a raving nutter, just discussing Youtube in general.
I watched the YT video linked, I agree with his view of use a cable but primarily because it works better than any emf exposure issue associated with wireless devices.
He doesn't provide any solid evidence and most seem to be anecdotal at best. As for 'beating up' the FCC, they have some of the toughest exposure limits, he twisted the advice put in the user guide to make it seem to support his position that RF is dangerous.
I think the jury is still out, we know that there are tissue heating effects or the microwave oven wouldn't work and it is pragmatic to avoid this. The question of whether there is any long term cell damage from continuous low level RF exposure has not yet been answered.
We have been listening to the radio and watching telly for a long time so have been subjected to low level radio and tv broadcast signals for many decades so I would have expected any problems to show by now.
He doesn't provide any solid evidence and most seem to be anecdotal at best. As for 'beating up' the FCC, they have some of the toughest exposure limits, he twisted the advice put in the user guide to make it seem to support his position that RF is dangerous.
I think the jury is still out, we know that there are tissue heating effects or the microwave oven wouldn't work and it is pragmatic to avoid this. The question of whether there is any long term cell damage from continuous low level RF exposure has not yet been answered.
We have been listening to the radio and watching telly for a long time so have been subjected to low level radio and tv broadcast signals for many decades so I would have expected any problems to show by now.
Lord Marylebone said:
Or watch youtube videos of Alex Jones
Whenever I tune into The One Show, I can never decide whether she’s quite cute or a bit of a moose. I probably would, though.Oh wait, that’s not the Alex Jones you meant, is it?
Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Wednesday 17th October 01:33
I don't think TEDx is even a proper TED talk, TEDx gives any crank a platform, case in point;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0FDjFBj8o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0FDjFBj8o
Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 17th October 10:14
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