Locked IPad's

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alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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beanie1983 said:
Try this, it worked for a few iPhones I've had to fix.

Plug into iTunes, press and hold power button and home button down until the iTunes logo and a wire plugging into it appears, your iPad will first turn off and then the Apple logo will appear, keep both buttons pressed and eventually the Apple logo with wire will appear. ITunes will then ask you to update and restore, from here you should be able to set up as new ipad and create a new Apple Id and have a working iPad.

Hope it works for you, it did for a few iPhones I've had to fix


John
DFU mode won’t work unless the original iCloud account has been removed. Same as the poster suggesting a JB - you can’t bypass iCloud lock - simples


CoolHands

18,631 posts

195 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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How do ,ahem, <foreigners> manage to get all our stolen iphones and ipads working then?

beanie1983

327 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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alorotom said:
beanie1983 said:
Try this, it worked for a few iPhones I've had to fix.

Plug into iTunes, press and hold power button and home button down until the iTunes logo and a wire plugging into it appears, your iPad will first turn off and then the Apple logo will appear, keep both buttons pressed and eventually the Apple logo with wire will appear. ITunes will then ask you to update and restore, from here you should be able to set up as new ipad and create a new Apple Id and have a working iPad.

Hope it works for you, it did for a few iPhones I've had to fix


John
DFU mode won’t work unless the original iCloud account has been removed. Same as the poster suggesting a JB - you can’t bypass iCloud lock - simples
It's not dfu mode you go past dfu mode and into full factory reset mode, I've had a few iPhones that are iCloud locked and that's what I did to get the phones back working again.

You do lose everything off the phone but it works again

jesusbuiltmycar

4,537 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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CoolHands said:
How do ,ahem, <foreigners> manage to get all our stolen iphones and ipads working then?
I was curious about this and read some articles online. Apparantly after stealing the phone they contact the owner posing as apple (phishing) to try and get the owner to reveal the password... Obviously if they just have a phone and no other details (e.g. email address) there is not a lot they can do.

13aines

2,153 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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You could try iPhoneIMEI.net

I haven't used their services but couldn't believe that they could remove an iCloud lock.

This review suggests they can though.

https://whytheluckystiff.net/iphoneimei-tested-and...

Edit: Trustpilot reviews not good though... Reading reviews for a few more of these sites i'm not sure they can remove an iCloud lock. I think they make it look like they can and do, lure you in with an initial cheap "from" price, then email you saying they need an additional £65+ to complete the unlock. At this point I suspect people don't continue... They often report Trustpilot reviews so they cannot be read for a while, while they are reviewed. The good reviews are probably "paid" reviews, or reviews for network unlocks? Probably wait until feedback is much too poor, then start up under another name.

Edited by 13aines on Wednesday 17th October 10:25

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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beanie1983 said:
It's not dfu mode you go past dfu mode and into full factory reset mode, I've had a few iPhones that are iCloud locked and that's what I did to get the phones back working again.

You do lose everything off the phone but it works again
bks ... that’s just not true at all - if it was the thefts of iPhones and iPads would not have abated due to the iCloud lock limitations



Durzel

12,266 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Apple will want proof of purchase, it won't matter what you say about the circumstances of how you came to be in possession of them. If it did everyone would do that.

beanie1983

327 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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alorotom said:
beanie1983 said:
It's not dfu mode you go past dfu mode and into full factory reset mode, I've had a few iPhones that are iCloud locked and that's what I did to get the phones back working again.

You do lose everything off the phone but it works again
bks ... that’s just not true at all - if it was the thefts of iPhones and iPads would not have abated due to the iCloud lock limitations
Ok, all I'm saying is that's what I've done In the past to iPhones that have been iCloud locked and it worked.
I'm guessing you know what you are talking about because you have tried the steps I've used in the past and it hasn't worked for you?

beanie1983

327 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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beanie1983 said:
alorotom said:
beanie1983 said:
It's not dfu mode you go past dfu mode and into full factory reset mode, I've had a few iPhones that are iCloud locked and that's what I did to get the phones back working again.

You do lose everything off the phone but it works again
bks ... that’s just not true at all - if it was the thefts of iPhones and iPads would not have abated due to the iCloud lock limitations
Ok, all I'm saying is that's what I've done In the past to iPhones that have been iCloud locked and it worked.
I'm guessing you know what you are talking about because you have tried the steps I've used in the past and it hasn't worked for you?
Steps below from the Apple website - when you set up your new phone create a new Apple Id

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204306 &#128077;

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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beanie1983 said:
Ok, all I'm saying is that's what I've done In the past to iPhones that have been iCloud locked and it worked.
I'm guessing you know what you are talking about because you have tried the steps I've used in the past and it hasn't worked for you?
Since about iOS7 (I think that’s correct) If the device has an associated logged in iCloud account it won’t work for anyone, anywhere period.

All your steps do is reset the device, and as soon as it’s reset and you turn it on, it goes to activate, verifies that it’s already attached to an existing iCloud account and requires that login detail.



audi321

5,184 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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There must be something that can be done because people are still paying good money for icloud locked phones/ipads on ebay (more than just spares money).

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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audi321 said:
There must be something that can be done because people are still paying good money for icloud locked phones/ipads on ebay (more than just spares money).
Invariably it’s people read fallacies like the previous poster who reckon they know how to unblock them and can turn a quick easy profit - most of the devices end up being sold multiple times to suckers in this cycle.

Also there is a reasonable black market for the stripping of blacklisted handsets and combining with other new parts (like a new logic board and other parts that are replaced to overcome the locked element) to make a ‘new’ (or refurbished) handset which then commands top dollar in resale and does work - mainly in the Far East and India

beanie1983

327 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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alorotom said:
audi321 said:
There must be something that can be done because people are still paying good money for icloud locked phones/ipads on ebay (more than just spares money).
Invariably it’s people read fallacies like the previous poster who reckon they know how to unblock them and can turn a quick easy profit - most of the devices end up being sold multiple times to suckers in this cycle.

Also there is a reasonable black market for the stripping of blacklisted handsets and combining with other new parts (like a new logic board and other parts that are replaced to overcome the locked element) to make a ‘new’ (or refurbished) handset which then commands top dollar in resale and does work - mainly in the Far East and India
All I was saying is it worked for me

No harm in trying it, the op's iPads are locked anyway

13aines

2,153 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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beanie1983 said:
alorotom said:
audi321 said:
There must be something that can be done because people are still paying good money for icloud locked phones/ipads on ebay (more than just spares money).
Invariably it’s people read fallacies like the previous poster who reckon they know how to unblock them and can turn a quick easy profit - most of the devices end up being sold multiple times to suckers in this cycle.

Also there is a reasonable black market for the stripping of blacklisted handsets and combining with other new parts (like a new logic board and other parts that are replaced to overcome the locked element) to make a ‘new’ (or refurbished) handset which then commands top dollar in resale and does work - mainly in the Far East and India
All I was saying is it worked for me

No harm in trying it, the op's iPads are locked anyway
You are at cross purposes with the previous poster. You have had success (and so would the OP) with devices where you don't know the passcode required to unlock it, like the 4-digit/6-digit code you enter when you turn the screen on.

The OP later clarified "but without the original owners Apple account that set the iPad up it won't allow any access. ". He is struggling because he cannot sign out of his relatives iCloud account without their password.

In the same way, if I report my phone as lost via another device/my apple account online, it goes into lockdown (and might self-erase if configured) and cannot be unlocked without my password for iCloud. This is called an "iCloud lock" and is much much harder to bypass.

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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geeks said:
Luke. said:
ecsrobin said:
How do you end up with a few iPads lying around that you don’t own?
Wot e sed.
At work?


EDIT - You are up the creek without proof of purchase, if you can provide this you can take it to an Apple store and have a "genius" unlock it, apple achieve this by essentially jailbreaking it then reapplying all the standard firmware etc
That's how we ended up with loads. Big company, lots of company iPad users. After a few years and quite a bit of staff turnover (especially with a few reorganisations and redundancies) you end up with a box useless iPads in the IT department.

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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98elise said:
That's how we ended up with loads. Big company, lots of company iPad users. After a few years and quite a bit of staff turnover (especially with a few reorganisations and redundancies) you end up with a box useless iPads in the IT department.
I’d be introducing a policy where on leaving they deactivate the iCloud account and reset the iPad.

Durzel

12,266 posts

168 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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98elise said:
geeks said:
Luke. said:
ecsrobin said:
How do you end up with a few iPads lying around that you don’t own?
Wot e sed.
At work?


EDIT - You are up the creek without proof of purchase, if you can provide this you can take it to an Apple store and have a "genius" unlock it, apple achieve this by essentially jailbreaking it then reapplying all the standard firmware etc
That's how we ended up with loads. Big company, lots of company iPad users. After a few years and quite a bit of staff turnover (especially with a few reorganisations and redundancies) you end up with a box useless iPads in the IT department.
Why do the staff need access to the iCloud account?

wong

1,288 posts

216 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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ecsrobin said:
I’d be introducing a policy where on leaving they deactivate the iCloud account and reset the iPad.
Why don't the company just keep the invoice. Then they can get Apple to reset them.

Bullitt Five-Oh

876 posts

67 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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wong said:
ecsrobin said:
I’d be introducing a policy where on leaving they deactivate the iCloud account and reset the iPad.
Why don't the company just keep the invoice. Then they can get Apple to reset them.
I'm pretty sure they keep invoices for taxman anyway.

98elise

26,589 posts

161 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Durzel said:
98elise said:
geeks said:
Luke. said:
ecsrobin said:
How do you end up with a few iPads lying around that you don’t own?
Wot e sed.
At work?


EDIT - You are up the creek without proof of purchase, if you can provide this you can take it to an Apple store and have a "genius" unlock it, apple achieve this by essentially jailbreaking it then reapplying all the standard firmware etc
That's how we ended up with loads. Big company, lots of company iPad users. After a few years and quite a bit of staff turnover (especially with a few reorganisations and redundancies) you end up with a box useless iPads in the IT department.
Why do the staff need access to the iCloud account?
No idea as not my area, but when the kit was returned a awful lot of the iPads could not be reused because we did not have the passwords. End users just asume you can reset them so would just return their kit by courier with no account details.

We inherited the iPads/users as part of a TUPE situation so we didn't set the policy up.