Apple October event, new iPad/Mac Mini/ MacBook Air/iMac
Discussion
TheJimi said:
It borders on pointlessly powerful, given the limitations of iOS, in my opinion.
It's absolutely crying out for MacOS.
Still a cracking bit of kit, mind.
A proper file manager and it would be close.It's absolutely crying out for MacOS.
Still a cracking bit of kit, mind.
Perfect opportunity for them to come up with something better than the OSX Finder.
TheJimi said:
Actually, yes. I agree.
You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
I don't think they will ever do that, it would break the "walled garden" model which tightly controls exactly what different apps are able to interchange with each other.You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
I’ve got a 7 year old 27” iMac that’s used mainly for email, Excel and light photo editing and photo storage via Ligjtroom.
I currently back up to a 1TB Time Capsule.
The Mac needs replacing as it’s getting very slow and I really don’t need the size any more so it would be great to have something more portable/compact.
What would be the best replacement option for the above out of a new iPad Pro or MB Air? Or is that one of those questions that only I can answer?
Cheers!
I currently back up to a 1TB Time Capsule.
The Mac needs replacing as it’s getting very slow and I really don’t need the size any more so it would be great to have something more portable/compact.
What would be the best replacement option for the above out of a new iPad Pro or MB Air? Or is that one of those questions that only I can answer?
Cheers!
kev1974 said:
TheJimi said:
Actually, yes. I agree.
You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
I don't think they will ever do that, it would break the "walled garden" model which tightly controls exactly what different apps are able to interchange with each other.You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
AB said:
I'd say if you're only going to have one device then the Macbook is the way forward.
I couldn't just have an iPad, I see it more as a complementary device.
That was my thinking so good to have confirmed, thanks.I couldn't just have an iPad, I see it more as a complementary device.
Mrs G has an iPad mini which we’ll probably upgrade to a full size one at some stage too.
TheJimi said:
Actually, yes. I agree.
You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
Everything is moving to the cloud. My Mac files are there, so they are also on my iPad. MY work stuff is on OneDrive for business, other than very secure stuff and that too will move to the cloud once clients understand that it is at least as secure as corporate servers. You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
Zod said:
TheJimi said:
Actually, yes. I agree.
You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
Everything is moving to the cloud. My Mac files are there, so they are also on my iPad. MY work stuff is on OneDrive for business, other than very secure stuff and that too will move to the cloud once clients understand that it is at least as secure as corporate servers. You wouldn't even need to ditch iOS. Just give it proper file management. That's the single biggest thing holding it back, IMO - well, for me anyway.
AB said:
I'd say if you're only going to have one device then the Macbook is the way forward.
I couldn't just have an iPad, I see it more as a complementary device.
I'd agree with this, but depending on the spec of the iMac than maybe a 13" TouchBar Pro would be the better replacement? I couldn't just have an iPad, I see it more as a complementary device.
Either way, something that runs full Mac OS is the best bet.
HorneyMX5 said:
I do a fair bit of photography and bits of trackday video. Lots of raw files and 4K video is not cloud friendly from a cost perspective.
Depends what you define as “cloud” buying storage from Apple and the like then no but creating your own cloud with a NAS then yes. Apple are on a crusade to move people away from device storage and to make everything wireless. Upsetting a lot of people along the way but I guess within about five years we will just see it all as normal.
craigjm said:
HorneyMX5 said:
I do a fair bit of photography and bits of trackday video. Lots of raw files and 4K video is not cloud friendly from a cost perspective.
Depends what you define as “cloud” buying storage from Apple and the like then no but creating your own cloud with a NAS then yes. Apple are on a crusade to move people away from device storage and to make everything wireless. Upsetting a lot of people along the way but I guess within about five years we will just see it all as normal.
Apple love locked down ecosystems, since that's how they make more money, starting all the way from original iPod and forcing users to use crapTunes with no logic in file structure. Locked down ecosystems eliminate user confusion and make things simple and "user friendly" to an average laymen who don't want to care about folders and files they want to have their s
t there hence why they don't mind overpaying for it knowing they won't suffer same pain as with e.g. Windows and also to similar extent Android.Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Is that why they offer 1TB storage on their iPads?
They might well offer it but how many people will buy it? They know full well the vast majority of people will be willing to buy the smallest storage and then use the free cloud they get and be enticed then into extending it. craigjm said:
Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Is that why they offer 1TB storage on their iPads?
They might well offer it but how many people will buy it? They know full well the vast majority of people will be willing to buy the smallest storage and then use the free cloud they get and be enticed then into extending it. Bullitt Five-Oh said:
craigjm said:
HorneyMX5 said:
I do a fair bit of photography and bits of trackday video. Lots of raw files and 4K video is not cloud friendly from a cost perspective.
Depends what you define as “cloud” buying storage from Apple and the like then no but creating your own cloud with a NAS then yes. Apple are on a crusade to move people away from device storage and to make everything wireless. Upsetting a lot of people along the way but I guess within about five years we will just see it all as normal.
Is it really a business decision? Or is it more to do with the company's philosophy?
TheJimi said:
I'm trying to work out how a locked down operating system equals more money being made.
Is it really a business decision? Or is it more to do with the company's philosophy?
It's more about sandboxing - making it difficult for any compromised App or Program to gain access to any other part of the machine. Is it really a business decision? Or is it more to do with the company's philosophy?
To be fair, it's worked very well for them, given the number of iOS devices and the relatively few security compromises they have had.
The question is whether they can or will implement something closer to MacOS, which has both Sandboxing and access to the file system.
TheJimi said:
Yeah, I know how sandboxing works, I'm just trying to work out how, as Bullit suggests, the concept makes Apple money.
The results are arguably a more reliable and secure device. Happier customers, more sales.But they are limited, critics will cry. Perhaps, but they've sold over 2 Billion of them. A big part of that success is relative reliability.
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