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geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Can you not replace just the nozzle on the P1P then? Do you have to replace the whole hot end? (I ask as they are both labelled 0.4 which I am assuming is the nozzle size?)

Yazza54

18,507 posts

181 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Yeah they come as a hotend assembly or a complete assembly with the heat pad, thermistor and fan. To be fair as they are steel as standard with option to upgrade to hardened it's not like you'll be wearing them out a lot. If at all.

geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Ah ok fair enough. Seems a bit of a faff if you want to change the nozzle size. I like to switch between 0.4, 0.6 and 0.8 depending on what I am printing so that would be a bit of a ballache for me, as it is I just raise the hotend temp, remove nozzle and replace but I also can't print at the speed a P1P can so I guess thats (one of) the trade off.

Yazza54

18,507 posts

181 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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geeks said:
Ah ok fair enough. Seems a bit of a faff if you want to change the nozzle size. I like to switch between 0.4, 0.6 and 0.8 depending on what I am printing so that would be a bit of a ballache for me, as it is I just raise the hotend temp, remove nozzle and replace but I also can't print at the speed a P1P can so I guess thats (one of) the trade off.
I've looked at the different slicer settings in bambu slicer for the various nozzle sizes and determined that there's not really any benefit to larger nozzles, the 0.4 is fast and nicely detailed. The only thing I was tempted to go bigger on was for TPU to reduce nozzle pressure to reduce stringing but I've got that nailed on 0.4 now anyway.

For what it's worth I can swap a complete hot end on my p1p in a minute anyway...

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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I see Cura 5.3.0 is now out - I have 5.2.1 installed on my desktop which is where I do my slicing, but in order to try things out, I also have it on my laptop but without most of my changed settings etc. I thought I'd do a clean install on my laptop so I could transfer my desktop settings across, so I uninstalled V5.2.1, but when I then installed 5.3.0, it 'remembered' my old settings, so knew I have an Ender 5 with a 0.6 nozzle.

How can I do a completely clean install of 5.3.0 without it remembering my settings from old installations?

Dave.

7,360 posts

253 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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There's probably a folder in your appdata folder containing all the settings.

C:/users/***/appdata/roaming

You might need to turn on hidden folders if it's not there.

geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Yazza54 said:
geeks said:
Ah ok fair enough. Seems a bit of a faff if you want to change the nozzle size. I like to switch between 0.4, 0.6 and 0.8 depending on what I am printing so that would be a bit of a ballache for me, as it is I just raise the hotend temp, remove nozzle and replace but I also can't print at the speed a P1P can so I guess thats (one of) the trade off.
I've looked at the different slicer settings in bambu slicer for the various nozzle sizes and determined that there's not really any benefit to larger nozzles, the 0.4 is fast and nicely detailed. The only thing I was tempted to go bigger on was for TPU to reduce nozzle pressure to reduce stringing but I've got that nailed on 0.4 now anyway.

For what it's worth I can swap a complete hot end on my p1p in a minute anyway...
Its not just about speed, though with bigger parts and a bigger nozzle/line width and layer heights the speed differences can be quite surprising, wider line widths are generally stronger.

I am surprised you aren't getting much of a speed uplift looking at nozzle sizes, changing from a 0.45 line width and a 0.28 layer height to a 0.66 line width with a 0.48 layer height gives a massive time saving for me but then I am on an Ender 3 Neo

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Dave. said:
There's probably a folder in your appdata folder containing all the settings.

C:/users/***/appdata/roaming

You might need to turn on hidden folders if it's not there.
Cheers - now deleted - there was a Cura folder in Local as well, so now that's also gone. Should now allow me to do a clean install with no preconfigured bits.

PRTVR

7,101 posts

221 months

Friday 17th March 2023
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Just seen this, using super glue to make prints stronger.
https://youtu.be/AExrJ_Y4t64

jbswagger

734 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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Good evening,

Does anyone have any recommendations for a site to get a first 3d printer. Also what model as well. I try to support small traders so would rather not spend with Amazon.

Edited by jbswagger on Sunday 19th March 06:31

Scabutz

7,600 posts

80 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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I bought my ender 3 and also my gamin laptop from box.co.uk. No complaints with them at all.

Lots of choice for models. I went for the Ender 3 V2. Pretty happy with it to be fair. Worth a scroll back through the thread as lots of other possibilities out there

geeks

9,169 posts

139 months

Saturday 18th March 2023
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I have an Ender 3 Neo that I really can't fault. Comes with CR Touch built in, decent bed size, its a Bowden setup but you can print a carriage to mount the extruder motor onto and its almost direct drive. Mine came direct from Creality buts its well stocked elsewhere. The Prusa MK3 has excellent feedback as well but is a little more upfront. The there is the next up something like a P1P. Really I would say its about budget rather than "beginner" also depends on how much a of tinkerer you are, the P1P is closed source for example, however there are literally endless upgrades for an Ender 3 series printer.

b2hbm

1,291 posts

222 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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I bought a Creality CR6SE from Technology Outlet just over a year ago, a stock printer and it came the next day. No affiliations other than being a customer, when I'm tempted onto the upgrade path I'll look at what they offer again.

https://technologyoutlet.co.uk/

I had no idea how these things worked so I went for one with a self levelling bed to make life easier. It worked out of the box, the only significant thing I did was junk the PLA it came with for what I consider to be a better consumable (eSUN PLA+). That alone improved the print quality.

Yazza54

18,507 posts

181 months

Sunday 19th March 2023
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geeks said:
I have an Ender 3 Neo that I really can't fault. Comes with CR Touch built in, decent bed size, its a Bowden setup but you can print a carriage to mount the extruder motor onto and its almost direct drive. Mine came direct from Creality buts its well stocked elsewhere. The Prusa MK3 has excellent feedback as well but is a little more upfront. The there is the next up something like a P1P. Really I would say its about budget rather than "beginner" also depends on how much a of tinkerer you are, the P1P is closed source for example, however there are literally endless upgrades for an Ender 3 series printer.
I've read a lot of people on Reddit moving away from prusa to bambu lab P1P

I am biased here but my P1P is so good I can't fathom how the X1 is worth another 500 quid or so.

I've only been 3D printing for a few months but so far I have successfully printed PLA, ASA, TPU (95A) and also been playing with ePA-CF this weekend with excellent results after a little tweaking. It's a brilliant machine.

Whether it's worth it to you to spend the extra on a P1P over an Ended entirely depends upon what you want to do with it, are your prints gonna be functional, will you use it much or is it just a curiosity purchase?

I don't think anyone here who's used both would recommend an Ender product over a P1P.

gotoPzero

17,227 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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After a lot of reading I am thinking of going for an Ender-3 S1 Pro. Currently on sale at £349.00

Questions....

You can get it £20 cheaper on Box. Is worth saving £20? I.e to buy from 3rd party in case of any problems?

I want to print in NylonX but I read that it needs purging in a heater first. That I can deal with but is the S1 Pro ok for this material? Everything I have read says it is... but I just wanted to check.

Also, when running does the machine produce any fumes or anything like that? I guess as its melting plastic there will be some plastic smells...

I would also like to print ABS too.

I am mostly printing small parts, roughly the size of say deck of cards, often quite a bit smaller.

Thanks!

Yazza54

18,507 posts

181 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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No visible fumes but there's the odd smell but nothing terrible really.

Remember if you wanna print anything like nylon X i.e. carbon filled you need hardened steel nozzle, metal hotend etc. Yes it's hygroscopic and absorbes moisture, like most plastics do, it's just extra absorbent and therefore needs drying and storing well with dessicant.

For ABS/ASA you are best printing with an enclosure as it can warp and have poor layer adhesion. Print hot and with your fan off, unless you have some overhangs then a bit of fan but not too much.

gotoPzero

17,227 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Thanks one reason I was thinking the pro is its metal head.

I will just need to get a harder nozzle but other than that I think I am ok?

Bullett

10,884 posts

184 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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What are you planning to print?
If it has tiny precise detail then SLA might not be the best choice.

gotoPzero

17,227 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Stuff like this


Yazza54

18,507 posts

181 months

Thursday 23rd March 2023
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Hardened steel gears fitted, easy to do. Did print the extruder gear holder tool to help you tap it out but it came out easily so didn't end up using it.

Zero wear on original stainless gears, will just keep them spare. Still convinced this is overkill but hey ho.

Easy to see why the extruder chewed up TPU for fun on the standard tensioner setting, the extruder spring is very heavy duty, with the tensioner Allen bolt wound all the way in it has around 6mm or so of preload on it. For TPU it literally just needs to be enough to seat the spring as the extruder wheels are knurled and therefore good and grippy as it is. For any hard filaments though I'll continue to use it fully nipped up as I haven't had any clogging issues with anything else like ASA, PLA or PA-CF.






Edited by Yazza54 on Thursday 23 March 10:21