New DJI Mavic Mini

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thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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One small thing to note that I became aware of yesterday.

When flying hard forwards/back and hard up, you might get a warning of "Aircraft Power Insufficient". Seems to happen mostly in Sport mode. It's as if the drone has worked out what its speed should be based on controller position and actual ground speed and it doesn't have the power to do so.

Not a huge gripe to be honest, just worth mentioning so you know what it is when it happens.

red_slr

17,227 posts

189 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Yeah seen this discussed elsewhere I think its due to sport mode basically allowing the motors to draw more current than the battery can actually deliver. So it gives a warning to advise you to back off a bit. I suspect DJI will maybe pull some throttle out of the sport map at some point by FW update to protect the batteries for the long term.



thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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That makes sense.


Very windy today. Its quite amazing how well not only it fly's in the wind but how stable the video is.... very impressive considering its size.

I also had the altitude warning (or rather limiter) come on which limits it to 150m, flight path for Luton I think.





I think one area where the camera really struggles is low light.

Davie_GLA

6,521 posts

199 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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thebraketester said:
That makes sense.


Very windy today. Its quite amazing how well not only it fly's in the wind but how stable the video is.... very impressive considering its size.

I also had the altitude warning (or rather limiter) come on which limits it to 150m, flight path for Luton I think.





I think one area where the camera really struggles is low light.
All DJI cameras suffered the same. Does the Mini let you record in RAW? I remember having to mess around with the levels post production and when you get the hang of it the results are stunning.

I'll need to dig out some photos and vids to see if it makes me press the button or not smile

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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No raw as of yet.

eltawater

3,114 posts

179 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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thebraketester said:
That makes sense.

I also had the altitude warning (or rather limiter) come on which limits it to 150m, flight path for Luton I think.
The legal altitude from surface is 400ft / 120M.

Drone code reminder:

https://dronesafe.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Dr...

renmure

4,242 posts

224 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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I’m really impressed with this. Huge benefit of living in the countryside with 5 acres of garden surrounded by open fields mean I’ve had about a dozen flights since collecting it 2 days ago, chasing tractors, taking dogs for a walk, taking car photos, trying all the “snapshot” tricks while drinking coffee and ducking rain showers.

I flew it 1850m away to the end of a neighboring field at 2m height and could have kept going but bottled it because I couldn’t see or hear it. I’m no expert but the photo resolution quality is ace and I can’t believe how stable the video is even when the wind picks up.

Lunch time now then I’m off out again to practice some more.

I’m sure the novelty will wear off but at £450ish for the flymore combo that’s ok in contrast to the Mavic 2 Pro I was also looking at. Happy days.

thatsprettyshady

1,824 posts

165 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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I've just got mine home after collecting from the apple store today.

Ive never used a drone before but using the app it was dead simple to set up, had a very short flight indoors just to see how it handles and it's really simple, I switched control layout to Mode 3 as it's what felt the most natural(right stick to "look" and left stick to move/strafe - I think it's hardwired into me from years of playing FPS games.

Downloaded the Mavic Assistant app for my laptop which let me update the firmware without having to wait for charging levels etc.

Looking forward to getting it out tomorrow afternoon!

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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1850m. Impressed. I start getting twitchy around 250m

red_slr

17,227 posts

189 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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1850 is good, looks like most people are getting 1500-1600m.

Also some people are already playing with range extenders and reflectors.

Danny4494

161 posts

97 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Came on pistonheads for some info on winter tires, so far I have bought a super bright torch and now a Mavic mini, admin ban me from the tech section you'll bankrupt me lol

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Danny4494 said:
Came on pistonheads for some info on winter tires, so far I have bought a super bright torch and now a Mavic mini, admin ban me from the tech section you'll bankrupt me lol
laugh


thatsprettyshady

1,824 posts

165 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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I took out my Mavic Mini today for the first time, shot a couple of videos of the first flights.

https://youtu.be/8vJlrNN0zhI - This is the first flight, camera work is pretty jerky but to be honest I was just concentrating on not crashing or losing the bloody thing!

https://youtu.be/N_dgV5YW7YU - Second flight, not much in it really, just a nice little pan around our cars on the way out to a meet this morning.

I have to say I'm very impressed with the performance of this little drone, I have nothing to compare it to as it's my first one but so far it's exceeded my expectations, the video quality is excellent (not sure how much YouTube will compromise this) and the controls and app are very intuitive.

thumbup from me!

Whoozit

3,599 posts

269 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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thebraketester said:
No raw as of yet.
...which is the killer for me. There's no engineering reason that RAW isn't available. I'd use it entirely for stills photography, and losing the extra dynamic range of RAW is a deal breaker.

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Great fun arent they shady?


Had a bit of a scare with mine this afternoon. I put it up in the air to get a sunset photo from my back garden (which I missed anyway). At about 100m I tried to move it around and it just lost connection completely, I couldn't hear it.... no signal.... no visual (oops). We are in a fairly busy residential area, so there must be tons of wifi noise. Fortunately, if the drone loses connection with the remote then the Return to Home function kicks in. About 30 seconds later It was floating back down but had shifted about 10meters backwards.

Anyway.. just worth remembering to make sure your RTH location and return height is set before you fly the drone out of sight.

Danny4494

161 posts

97 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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What's the range situation I don't quite understand certain restrictions etc if someone can clarify

red_slr

17,227 posts

189 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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In the UK we have to abide by lower output power which is 10mW on 2.4 and and 25mW on 5gigs.

I think in the USA they have a limit of 1000mW, I forget their exact numbers though. I doubt the US version is putting out that kind of power but maybe 200mW or something? Someone will know the exact specs.

Disclaimer - Its been a good few years since I was into FPV so the numbers might have changed.

So we get the "CE" version whilst the USA get "FCC" version.

Range tests are slowly appearing now and it looks like out of the box the CE version is good to around 1500m. That's a long, long way and no way you would remain in LOS at that distance. My worry was in noisy environments that might drop to 200m but so far its looking like DJI have done a good job.


Danny4494

161 posts

97 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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red_slr said:
In the UK we have to abide by lower output power which is 10mW on 2.4 and and 25mW on 5gigs.

I think in the USA they have a limit of 1000mW, I forget their exact numbers though. I doubt the US version is putting out that kind of power but maybe 200mW or something? Someone will know the exact specs.

Disclaimer - Its been a good few years since I was into FPV so the numbers might have changed.

So we get the "CE" version whilst the USA get "FCC" version.

Range tests are slowly appearing now and it looks like out of the box the CE version is good to around 1500m. That's a long, long way and no way you would remain in LOS at that distance. My worry was in noisy environments that might drop to 200m but so far its looking like DJI have done a good job.
Wow thanks for that explanation, I was under the impression the CE version couldn't go any further than 500m, but after viewing YouTube videos it seems not, sure I'll find out soon enough my first real drone, my last one was a cheap one from a gadget shop and it just did what it wanted after about 100m, is there a drone regs guide for a user I don't want to be breaking any laws smile ?

ecsrobin

17,114 posts

165 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Danny4494 said:
Wow thanks for that explanation, I was under the impression the CE version couldn't go any further than 500m, but after viewing YouTube videos it seems not, sure I'll find out soon enough my first real drone, my last one was a cheap one from a gadget shop and it just did what it wanted after about 100m, is there a drone regs guide for a user I don't want to be breaking any laws smile ?
https://dronesafe.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Drone-Code_October2019.pdf

red_slr

17,227 posts

189 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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AFAIK there are hard limits in the CE version s/w, I think its mainly altitude though I think its 1200ft AGL. Distance I think is unlimited but the user can dial this down as they see fit.

Google drone code for info on laws.

DJI help part of the way with on screen notifications about airspace but should not be 100% relied upon.