Can I fake GPS location?

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V8 WUU

Original Poster:

4,382 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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My Employer wants us to start clocking in and out using a mobile app called "Deputy" which records your GPS location on clocking in.


Is there anyway to make my iPhone location at my works address at say 6am while I am at home in bed wink


Ive used VPN's etc to show myself in a different country for Netflix etc, but is there any way to trick the GPS?


Obviously hypothetically wink ...........

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

72 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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100s of apps will do it with use. Just use google.

OriginalFDM

402 posts

75 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Can’t you give your phone to whoever’s clocking you in at the moment?!

Cold

15,246 posts

90 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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OriginalFDM said:
Can’t you give your phone to whoever’s clocking you in at the moment?!
Didn't Jason Bourne (deliberately) leave his on a train?
(Spy stuff, top secret etc)

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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V8 WUU said:
My Employer wants us to start clocking in and out using a mobile app called "Deputy" which records your GPS location on clocking in.


Is there anyway to make my iPhone location at my works address at say 6am while I am at home in bed wink


Ive used VPN's etc to show myself in a different country for Netflix etc, but is there any way to trick the GPS?


Obviously hypothetically wink ...........
That is the most compelling reason to leave an organisation.

Do you ever see these motivational quotes on LinkedIn?

When did you ever see one that said "Our employees are our most valuable resource - we track their phones to clock in.."?

Get a new (better) job.

V8 WUU

Original Poster:

4,382 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Sorted smile Itools pro has done the job.

Its not just an iPhone app (couldn't find one), but a MacBook app which when you plug iPhone into, you can select a location.

To revert back, looks like I just need to turn iPhone off and back on.


Will clock in as soon as I wake up in the morning, and see what the boss says........

StevieBee

12,882 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Is your pay linked to the hours you work determined by clocking in and out?

Are there contractural and operational reasons for you to be in certain location when you clock in?

If there are, then you need to tread very carefully because if you deliberately falsify the system you can put yourself in very murky legal waters.

NotBenny

3,917 posts

180 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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why not, I dunno, clock in once you get to work? and clock out when you leave? seems pretty easy.

alorotom

11,939 posts

187 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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NotBenny said:
why not, I dunno, clock in once you get to work? and clock out when you leave? seems pretty easy.
Assuming you go there.

jingars

1,094 posts

240 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Given the subject matter of this thread I wonder if there is merit in the OP reviewing (and perhaps cropping) their profile picture, just in case they are providing a little more info online than is prudent?

V8 WUU

Original Poster:

4,382 posts

183 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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StevieBee said:
Is your pay linked to the hours you work determined by clocking in and out?

Are there contractural and operational reasons for you to be in certain location when you clock in?

If there are, then you need to tread very carefully because if you deliberately falsify the system you can put yourself in very murky legal waters.
No I am salaried, so does not relate to my pay, im told its some BS to do with fire regs.....



Butter Face

30,298 posts

160 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Is your phone provided by your work?

I would be hesitant to start messing around with GPS spoofing on a device not owned by you, can’t you just turn it off and pretend you forget to charge it?

V8 WUU

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4,382 posts

183 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Butter Face said:
Is your phone provided by your work?

I would be hesitant to start messing around with GPS spoofing on a device not owned by you, can’t you just turn it off and pretend you forget to charge it?
No its my own personal phone, so pretty sure I can have the GPS set to how I like really.

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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V8 WUU said:
StevieBee said:
Is your pay linked to the hours you work determined by clocking in and out?

Are there contractural and operational reasons for you to be in certain location when you clock in?

If there are, then you need to tread very carefully because if you deliberately falsify the system you can put yourself in very murky legal waters.
No I am salaried, so does not relate to my pay, im told its some BS to do with fire regs.....
If thats the case and with deepest regret i’ll own up to being a fire warden at work. Imagine an actual fire and someone is sent back in to look for you...

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

175 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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V8 WUU said:
StevieBee said:
Is your pay linked to the hours you work determined by clocking in and out?

Are there contractural and operational reasons for you to be in certain location when you clock in?

If there are, then you need to tread very carefully because if you deliberately falsify the system you can put yourself in very murky legal waters.
No I am salaried, so does not relate to my pay, im told its some BS to do with fire regs.....
But are contracted to be in work at 6am?

As for fire regs, well if there going to use the data to see who is in work, are you happy for the fire brigade to go into a burning building to look for you while your home in bed.

To be honest, it sounds like your employer is pissed at paying people who perhaps are not where their claiming to be.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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V8 WUU said:
Butter Face said:
Is your phone provided by your work?

I would be hesitant to start messing around with GPS spoofing on a device not owned by you, can’t you just turn it off and pretend you forget to charge it?
No its my own personal phone, so pretty sure I can have the GPS set to how I like really.
Pretty sure there'e no way an employer can force you to install an app to track your location on your own phone.

Work phone, yes, provided there's some way they can link it to T&Cs.

Just don't install the app.

Spare tyre

9,566 posts

130 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Don’t mess around with stuff like this, pretty quick way to get the boot when caught out

They can’t force you to install it on your phone, but I guess they could make life tricky

OriginalFDM

402 posts

75 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Can’t fathom why you don’t just use the system as it’s intended to be used? Unless you’re wilfully defrauding your employer of course which is something of a slippery slope.

And if it is to do with fire regs then what happens when there’s a fire drill and you’re allegedly in the building when you’re not?

Doesn’t seem like an awful lot of good can come from this on the face of it!

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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V8 WUU said:
No I am salaried, so does not relate to my pay, im told its some BS to do with fire regs.....
What were you actually told, if you bothered to listen, and why are you against it?

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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How much extra are they paying you for the use of your phone and data to help run their company?

Also are you sure that they cannot activate said application remotely to see exactly where you are at any given time?

I would be suggesting that if they want to use a mobile device for company business they need to supply such a device.

I would also mention that as most people put their phone on the desk once at work and we are to in the event of a fire leave all are belongings and quickly evacuate the building it would not be to great at its intended purpose