5G. What’s the point?
Discussion
Starjet99 said:
I'd really rather "they" concentrate on getting better 4G coverage before we worry too much about 5G. I live in the countryside (albeit in the south east, so not completely in the sticks) and I frequently don't get a 4G connection out and about, and I struggle with getting even 3G or any connection at all at home!
You should try living in North Devon.Mobile signal is non-existent in many places round here.
Glade said:
... am sure I read that the version we get in the UK to start with wont be the full speed version or at least not what 5G will be able to achieve in the future. Certainly if you buy a handset now it wont be giving you the full beans.
so we'll be hamstrung by being early adopters, again! (in car DAB being a good example of being screwed for being an early adopter IIRC)schmalex said:
Folks. Please help me. What on Earth is the practical point of 5G for use in every day life? Why would I want to pay more for 5G than I currently do for 3G / 4G?
schmalex some years ago said:
Folks. Please help me. What on Earth is the practical point of 4G for use in every day life? Why would I want to pay more for 4G than I currently do for 3G?
schmalex some more years ago said:
Folks. Please help me. What on Earth is the practical point of 3G for use in every day life? Why would I want to pay more for 3G than I currently do for 2G?
Does that help?As has already been stated there are a number of industrial use cases for it, and in medicine and gaming.
The 2 things that I'm most interested in is that the fact that the base stations can communicate with each other and hand your connection between them. This will enable better user experience when travelling on a train for example.
Secondly, the destiny that the stations can handle. Big gatherings at stadiums, festivals etc should get a better more reliable connection.
It will take a long time to roll out to see those benefits though.
The 2 things that I'm most interested in is that the fact that the base stations can communicate with each other and hand your connection between them. This will enable better user experience when travelling on a train for example.
Secondly, the destiny that the stations can handle. Big gatherings at stadiums, festivals etc should get a better more reliable connection.
It will take a long time to roll out to see those benefits though.
Johnspex said:
Starjet99 said:
I'd really rather "they" concentrate on getting better 4G coverage before we worry too much about 5G. I live in the countryside (albeit in the south east, so not completely in the sticks) and I frequently don't get a 4G connection out and about, and I struggle with getting even 3G or any connection at all at home!
You should try living in North Devon.Mobile signal is non-existent in many places round here.
5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
Hoofy said:
sparks_190e said:
5g could replace broadband I've heard. It is really bloody quick.
I'm in SW London and have 2 bars on my phone. I have 1 bar in my gf's flat in SW London. Will this affect 5G speeds?Hopefully you shouldn't need 5G at all.
boyse7en said:
5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
Sub 6GHz 5G goes much further but it's slower and has less capacity. That's what the sticks will have if they can be bothered to install it. I'm in the SW too and the idea of streaming music, or anything, when out and about is flat out laughable. You can't even do it on the prime rail and road routes with 3 or 4g.
These people whose lives operate in the cloud may as well be a different species.
mouseymousey said:
As has already been stated there are a number of industrial use cases for it, and in medicine and gaming.
The 2 things that I'm most interested in is that the fact that the base stations can communicate with each other and hand your connection between them. This will enable better user experience when travelling on a train for example.
Secondly, the destiny that the stations can handle. Big gatherings at stadiums, festivals etc should get a better more reliable connection.
It will take a long time to roll out to see those benefits though.
Handover between cells has been a thing since 2G, not sure about Analogue, even though I used to test the 883 base stations in the factory back when I still had hair.The 2 things that I'm most interested in is that the fact that the base stations can communicate with each other and hand your connection between them. This will enable better user experience when travelling on a train for example.
Secondly, the destiny that the stations can handle. Big gatherings at stadiums, festivals etc should get a better more reliable connection.
It will take a long time to roll out to see those benefits though.
The need for better handing over becomes more prevalent the smaller the cells.
Trains are big metal tubes that travel through the middle of nowhere, it's not surprising you lose signal, but I doubt that is handover.
boyse7en said:
I do live in North Devon and the amount of places I can go and it is Emergency Calls Only, or not even that, is amazing. Friends in the rest of the country don't believe me when I way I didn't get a message because I was out of signal for a whole afternoon or evening - the concept of not having 3G or 4G constantly baffles them.
5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
Yeah, we are pushing ahead with super fast mobile for some areas when large rural areas can’t even get a mobile signal at all. As usual it will be driven by £, providers will roll it out where they can make money off of it, other places can continue to languish in the Stone Age. 5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
schmalex said:
Not really. I see the use of 4G as I can watch HDTV (probably the most bandwidth hungry application) on my mobile devices. I couldn’t do this on 3G / WAP so there is tangible benefit of 4G when it’s available
Did you know you wanted to do this back then?I have about 10Mb/s on my broadband. Which is rubbish, but enough for Netflix, Prime, streaming music, etc. When all I had was dialup, it was fast enough for everything dialup was fast enough for, which was all I wanted to do because it was as there was.
If you add bandwidth, people will come up with ways of taking advantage of it.
otolith said:
schmalex said:
Not really. I see the use of 4G as I can watch HDTV (probably the most bandwidth hungry application) on my mobile devices. I couldn’t do this on 3G / WAP so there is tangible benefit of 4G when it’s available
Did you know you wanted to do this back then?.
schmalex said:
otolith said:
schmalex said:
Not really. I see the use of 4G as I can watch HDTV (probably the most bandwidth hungry application) on my mobile devices. I couldn’t do this on 3G / WAP so there is tangible benefit of 4G when it’s available
Did you know you wanted to do this back then?.
boyse7en said:
Johnspex said:
Starjet99 said:
I'd really rather "they" concentrate on getting better 4G coverage before we worry too much about 5G. I live in the countryside (albeit in the south east, so not completely in the sticks) and I frequently don't get a 4G connection out and about, and I struggle with getting even 3G or any connection at all at home!
You should try living in North Devon.Mobile signal is non-existent in many places round here.
5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
Just off the A39 between Bideford and Hartland.
boyse7en said:
Johnspex said:
Starjet99 said:
I'd really rather "they" concentrate on getting better 4G coverage before we worry too much about 5G. I live in the countryside (albeit in the south east, so not completely in the sticks) and I frequently don't get a 4G connection out and about, and I struggle with getting even 3G or any connection at all at home!
You should try living in North Devon.Mobile signal is non-existent in many places round here.
5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
Just off the A39 between Bideford and Hartland.
Johnspex said:
boyse7en said:
Johnspex said:
Starjet99 said:
I'd really rather "they" concentrate on getting better 4G coverage before we worry too much about 5G. I live in the countryside (albeit in the south east, so not completely in the sticks) and I frequently don't get a 4G connection out and about, and I struggle with getting even 3G or any connection at all at home!
You should try living in North Devon.Mobile signal is non-existent in many places round here.
5G will be even worse with it relatively short range. The chances of any supplier providing antennae throughout remotely populated areas is pretty much zero
Just off the A39 between Bideford and Hartland.
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