5G. What’s the point?
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5G has a lower range and penetration through solid objects so needs about 20-30 times more masts. It'll cost an absolute fortune for any of the providers to roll out and at a time where many are still paying off their 4G investment. This is why we are only seeing availability in major towns and cities.
On the plus side, it has lower latency than 4G so is great for autonomous cars talking to each other, and other such applications. It also is better at finding you in a busy place, so all those times in a stadium with no signal will improve massively. Large data transfer speeds will render some fixed line services a bit pointless.
It's an evolution and if we don't enable it then in a few years everyone will be moaning about slow speeds and other countries being ahead of us.
On the plus side, it has lower latency than 4G so is great for autonomous cars talking to each other, and other such applications. It also is better at finding you in a busy place, so all those times in a stadium with no signal will improve massively. Large data transfer speeds will render some fixed line services a bit pointless.
It's an evolution and if we don't enable it then in a few years everyone will be moaning about slow speeds and other countries being ahead of us.
Apparently 5G will be imposed on all of the population to give the Lizard Overlords full control over our everyday thoughts, desires, deeds, activities and consumption.
Mind control is inevitable, as the next stage is chip implants in our brains to keep us subjugated.
Tin foil hats will be banned, and the chemtrails will be ramped up prior to selective extermination of surplus populations to ensure stability and balance throughout the whole of the flat earth.
Have you noticed how many trees are being felled in the urban environment recently? That is because foliage can blank out 5G signals and reduce their efficiency.
If you don't believe me, just look.
If they'll let you.
Mind control is inevitable, as the next stage is chip implants in our brains to keep us subjugated.
Tin foil hats will be banned, and the chemtrails will be ramped up prior to selective extermination of surplus populations to ensure stability and balance throughout the whole of the flat earth.
Have you noticed how many trees are being felled in the urban environment recently? That is because foliage can blank out 5G signals and reduce their efficiency.
If you don't believe me, just look.
If they'll let you.
Edited by glenrobbo on Wednesday 19th February 23:58
Stuff like this guy who couldn't get back into his rental car because of no signal makes me wonder - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/18...
A world where you're not allowed to blink without 5G had better have 100% coverage no matter where you go.
On top of that it's clear that security is never a priority and gaping holes are left unpatched for years, or never discovered at all. That slackness and vulnerability reaches a whole new level of corrosiveness and danger if all these IoT plans happen.
The average person is wide open enough as it is.
A world where you're not allowed to blink without 5G had better have 100% coverage no matter where you go.
On top of that it's clear that security is never a priority and gaping holes are left unpatched for years, or never discovered at all. That slackness and vulnerability reaches a whole new level of corrosiveness and danger if all these IoT plans happen.
The average person is wide open enough as it is.
glenrobbo said:
Apparently 5G will be imposed on all of the population to give the Lizard Overlords full control over our everyday thoughts, desires, deeds, activities and consumption.
Mind control is inevitable, as the next stage is chip implants in our brains to keep us subjugated.
Tin foil hats will be banned, and the chemtrails will be ramped up prior to selective extermination of surplus populations to ensure stability and balance throughout the whole of the flat earth.
Have you noticed how many trees are being felled in the urban environment recently? That is because foliage can blank out 5G signals and reduce their efficiency.
If you don't believe me, just look.
If they'll let you.
It started in Wuhan a few weeks ago. Mind control is inevitable, as the next stage is chip implants in our brains to keep us subjugated.
Tin foil hats will be banned, and the chemtrails will be ramped up prior to selective extermination of surplus populations to ensure stability and balance throughout the whole of the flat earth.
Have you noticed how many trees are being felled in the urban environment recently? That is because foliage can blank out 5G signals and reduce their efficiency.
If you don't believe me, just look.
If they'll let you.
Edited by glenrobbo on Wednesday 19th February 23:58
There are many use cases.
Many can be solved with 4G.
Some do need 5G.
For example, a major auto manufacturer is building a state of the art factory using 5G as part of the backbone. They have a private 5G licence (Germany). 4G doesn't have enough bandwidth for the data they want to move about and WIFI will not work at the density that they are using.
Many can be solved with 4G.
Some do need 5G.
For example, a major auto manufacturer is building a state of the art factory using 5G as part of the backbone. They have a private 5G licence (Germany). 4G doesn't have enough bandwidth for the data they want to move about and WIFI will not work at the density that they are using.
Sssshhhh! You're not supposed to have noticed.
Some people don't use much data, rarely download or stream stuff. Others do. 5G will be faster, so they will appreciate that.
It's like whinging that the Merc C200 you have does everything you need, so why are they making a C63?
You may not want or need a C63 but some others will want one.
It's like whinging that the Merc C200 you have does everything you need, so why are they making a C63?
You may not want or need a C63 but some others will want one.
glenrobbo said:
Apparently 5G will be imposed on all of the population to give the Lizard Overlords full control over our everyday thoughts, desires, deeds, activities and consumption.
Mind control is inevitable, as the next stage is chip implants in our brains to keep us subjugated.
Tin foil hats will be banned, and the chemtrails will be ramped up prior to selective extermination of surplus populations to ensure stability and balance throughout the whole of the flat earth.
Have you noticed how many trees are being felled in the urban environment recently? That is because foliage can blank out 5G signals and reduce their efficiency.
If you don't believe me, just look.
If they'll let you.
Here you go: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mind-co...Mind control is inevitable, as the next stage is chip implants in our brains to keep us subjugated.
Tin foil hats will be banned, and the chemtrails will be ramped up prior to selective extermination of surplus populations to ensure stability and balance throughout the whole of the flat earth.
Have you noticed how many trees are being felled in the urban environment recently? That is because foliage can blank out 5G signals and reduce their efficiency.
If you don't believe me, just look.
If they'll let you.
Edited by glenrobbo on Wednesday 19th February 23:58
https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/1053072081009/5G%20Ra...
But we're very fortunate that Huawei has all the equipment ready to go, for much less cost than anyone else
To the average midde-aged gammon taking potato pics on his £59 android phone won't see the benefit of 5G in the way they probably aren't seeing the benefits of 4G anyway.
As mentioned above, the noticeable benefit of 5G will be its ability to handle high density at high speed.
But I do agree with some of the comments that 4G was never properly rolled out here anyway. Case in point - i did a couple of years work on and off in Oslo, and it was staggering how well the 4G worked...everywhere. Overground, underground, at high speed. NIBYism has also played a big part. Where I live, the super affluent area has poor mobile reception....because the residents keep blocking the planning application for cell towers. But they also complain about the poor signal.
As mentioned above, the noticeable benefit of 5G will be its ability to handle high density at high speed.
But I do agree with some of the comments that 4G was never properly rolled out here anyway. Case in point - i did a couple of years work on and off in Oslo, and it was staggering how well the 4G worked...everywhere. Overground, underground, at high speed. NIBYism has also played a big part. Where I live, the super affluent area has poor mobile reception....because the residents keep blocking the planning application for cell towers. But they also complain about the poor signal.
Baldchap said:
What's the point of a 56k modem? What's the point of ISDN? What's the point of broadband? What's the point of fibre?
Fact is, data transfers will continue to grow in size and 5g will facilitate it.
^ThisFact is, data transfers will continue to grow in size and 5g will facilitate it.
Furthermore, it will eventually push broadband providers to up their game/speed/price to compete
devnull said:
As mentioned above, the noticeable benefit of 5G will be its ability to handle high density at high speed.
Indeed. Many of the use cases that industrial firms are looking at are not to do with personal devices. It's about speed, latency, and capacity.Industrial IoT / Controls and Automation / Edge Analytics / Device to Device communications, etc
schmalex said:
I’m not sure I believe that. When I worked for Ericsson 10 years or so ago, we were bleating on about the IOT and connected everything with 4G.
The point of cars changing traffic lights and fridges ordering more milk was supposed to be a big USP then, with sub 10ms pings etc.
Frankly, it was all b
ks.
Why will 5G be any different?
From my phone, I can stream HDTV at 25 / 30mbps. I have a ping of 8 - 10ms. What would I do with more?
I’m not sure I believe that. When I worked for Ericsson The point of cars changing traffic lights and fridges ordering more milk was supposed to be a big USP then, with sub 10ms pings etc.
Frankly, it was all b
ks. Why will 5G be any different?
From my phone, I can stream HDTV at 25 / 30mbps. I have a ping of 8 - 10ms. What would I do with more?
Frankly, it was all b
ks. Why will 5G be any different?
People will find uses once the technology is there. Things are invented and advanced for their potential a lot of the time. The things they say it is used for are generall a red herring to what the company is actually working on so as not to give the game away to their competition.
Who would have thought that when Alexander Graham Bell and John Logie Baird ( allegedly) invented the things they did it would have led to you streaming realistic colour pictures and soundon a gadget that is not plugged in to anything, and is the size of a Packet of those delicious health giving Lucky Strikes.
bolidemichael said:
I have the option of upgrading our business sim to 5G. However, I don't know how widely available it is - does anyone have it in London, to report?
Still very limted, even in Londonhttps://www.speedtest.net/ookla-5g-map
I think that Eastbourne is now online too.
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