Computer shuts down after 7/8 minutes?

Computer shuts down after 7/8 minutes?

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tight fart

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2,907 posts

273 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Any thoughts?
Old Packard Bell desk top, I thought I'd leave it in the garage and use it for diagnostics.
Not started it for around 4 years but I think it was intermittent beforehand.
Once it has shut down it doesn't want to boot, the power light going amber and nothing happens (should go blue)
I've unplugged a few unnecessary bits from the board, card reader cd drive etc, not made any difference.
On the occasion it boots fine, all seems to work fine then it shuts off.

sgrimshaw

7,323 posts

250 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Have you tried hoovering out the case?

Could be overtemp shutting it down.

More likely though is a stuffed PSU.

QuartzDad

2,247 posts

122 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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CPU thermal shutdown? Install a temperature monitoring utility and watch the temps?

tight fart

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2,907 posts

273 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Yes first job was a good vac.
Happy to change the psu as long as its that.
I don't think it will stay on long enough to add another programme.

Mr Pointy

11,218 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Blast the CPU or the PSU with a heat gun on cold to see if you can get it to stay on longer. That might give you a bit of a clue to where the issue lies.

Dogwatch

6,228 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Fan working?

tight fart

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273 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Yes fan works.

maccas99

1,706 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Buy a new one? Oh wait, username....biggrin

FourWheelDrift

88,510 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Take the CPU cooler off, clean the heatsink out thoroughly, use isopropyl alcohol or just a dry tissue to clean the old thermal paste off the CPU, it's probably gone hard and isn't doing anything now and apply new thermal paste to the CPU, put the cooler back on.

blackscooby

301 posts

280 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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FourWheelDrift said:
Take the CPU cooler off, clean the heatsink out thoroughly, use isopropyl alcohol or just a dry tissue to clean the old thermal paste off the CPU, it's probably gone hard and isn't doing anything now and apply new thermal paste to the CPU, put the cooler back on.
I had exactly the same issue with an old AMD. Would run for a period and just shut down.
Took apart, cleaned the heat sink and applied new paste.

Job done.

tight fart

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2,907 posts

273 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Never heard of heat sink paste, tube ordered thanks.

durbster

10,262 posts

222 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Common wisdom is to never use a vacuum in your PC as they generate static electricity which can discharge if you get the nozzle too close to a component. Use a can of compressed air instead.

https://www.pcgamer.com/should-i-vacuum-my-pc-ask-...

Jinx

11,389 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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durbster said:
Common wisdom is to never use a vacuum in your PC as they generate static electricity which can discharge if you get the nozzle too close to a component. Use a can of compressed air instead.

https://www.pcgamer.com/should-i-vacuum-my-pc-ask-...
Or one of these - better for the environment.

tight fart

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Thursday 18th June 2020
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Just cleaned the heat sink past off and given it a good blow job with the air line. wink
It then ran for15 mins by far the longest since trying to bring it back to life.
Hopefully when the new paste arrives it will sort it.



Edited by tight fart on Thursday 18th June 12:00

Jinx

11,389 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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tight fart said:
Just cleaned the heat sink past off and given it a good blow job with the air line. wink
It then ran for15 mins by far the longest since trying to bring it back to life.
Hopefully when the new paste arrives it will sort it.



Edited by tight fart on Thursday 18th June 12:00
Wow - AM2 though so you could drop in a better cheap CPU

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Jinx said:
tight fart said:
Just cleaned the heat sink past off and given it a good blow job with the air line. wink
It then ran for15 mins by far the longest since trying to bring it back to life.
Hopefully when the new paste arrives it will sort it.



Edited by tight fart on Thursday 18th June 12:00
Wow - AM2 though so you could drop in a better cheap CPU
Check your Motherboard and BIOS support it, but I 'upgraded' my old AM2 with an AMD CPU Phenom X4-9500 2.2GHz Socket AM2+ for a massive £5.95 from eBay last October! Managed to get hold of some cheap DDR2 memory, so now running at 7Gb (out of a possible max 8Gb). Also fitted with a cheap 128Gb SSD and it works reasonably well on Win 10!

tight fart

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Thursday 18th June 2020
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S6PNJ said:
Check your Motherboard and BIOS support it, but I 'upgraded' my old AM2 with an AMD CPU Phenom X4-9500 2.2GHz Socket AM2+ for a massive £5.95 from eBay last October! Managed to get hold of some cheap DDR2 memory, so now running at 7Gb (out of a possible max 8Gb). Also fitted with a cheap 128Gb SSD and it works reasonably well on Win 10!
Now that’s just teasing, where do I start to look to upgrade?

S6PNJ

5,182 posts

281 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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On your MB, there should be a make/model - google it and find the manual (assuming you don't already have it) or web support pages. It should tell you within there the fastest processor it will support. Also, whilst on the MB support pages - find the BIOS update and make sure the latest they offer is what is on your machine.

I have 2 old AMD MBs, one is Dell and the other is a 'normal' manufacturer. The Dell won't support Phenom processors but fortunately the other one does, so that's the one that got the upgrades! Previously I was running an AMD X2 64 6400 and a 3200 (or something like that - can't really remember!)

tight fart

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Thursday 18th June 2020
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OK thanks, I believe it's a ASUS M2N-NVM/S, I'll start googling

FourWheelDrift

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284 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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tight fart said:
OK thanks, I believe it's a ASUS M2N-NVM/S, I'll start googling
If so an Athlon 64 X2 would be the most recent and fastest CPU that would fit, but you may need to update the board BIOS using the chip you currently have installed first.

By cheapest in the UK - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_n...

So cheap to experiment.