Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

[Steven_RW]

3080ti was still in stock 43 mins after I was informed it was in stock at scan. Fe. RRP.

They aren't the most attractive card at the moment. Not ideal for mining due to LHR and their performance per £ can't compete at all with the standard 3080.

RW

[Lucas Ayde]

RacerMike said:

mikef said:

adaptive said:

3080ti FE were in stock at scan this morning for MRSP

That would have been useful information this morning

Subscribe on the Telegram channel that was shared earlier in this thread. Had the notifications through this morning and I could get one in my cart fairly easily (I got a 3090 from them a couple of months ago so was only doing this out of interest to see what demand was like now).

Yep, can't be stated often enough that if you are keen to get an RTX3000 series card at the official RRP, the NVidia Founders Edition cards are pretty much your only option. If you want to get one of them, you pretty much NEED to sign up to an alerting service to have a chance at getting one before they are sold out .. the Partsalert Telegram is probably the best one out there.

Not too sure how long 3060Ti/3070/3080 FE cards are staying available for now, but back at the start of the Summer they would be gone within a couple of mins of the drop happening. I'd guess that 3080Ti and 3090 FE cards might stay available longer due to the massive price (£1049 and £1399) which only absolutely minted/dedicated gamers are going to be willing and able to buy. I think the 3080Ti cards are all LHR so that reduces their mining appeal too. There would be a demand for 3090s from miners.

[Lucas Ayde]

mmm-five said:

I got one over a month ago following a post on here, as I'd turned off all my alerts months ago after I decided an RRP 3070 would do for now.

I didn't even go to the site for a couple of hours and they were still available.

Yeah, I would absolutely buy a 3080 FE if I could get one (have a 3070 FE currently) but no way would I pay the extra for the 3080Ti FE. The price is just too high for gaming.

Understandably, Scan are limiting FE purchases to one per customer (which is fair) so looks like I will be sticking with the 3070FE for the forseeable ... To be fair, the 3070 is a great card and I'm very happy to have been able to get it - it's just that I now have a G9 monitor and a 3080 would be needed to game to anything like the potential that the monitor offers.

[scottyp123]

What is the RRP for say a 3080ti? There are plenty of those on overclockers for £1300 upwards. If the RRP is £1000 or something then its hardly worth waiting until its pretty much out of date to bag one to save a relatively small amount.

I keep toying with buying a 3080ti but keep expecting it to come down a bit but the price has seemed pretty static for ages now, I could probably get £300-£400 for my 1080ti if I upgrade as well.

So instead of saying when will the prices come down, what are the chances of not paying less than £1400 in the next 2 months for a 3080ti.

[bloomen]

I think 1300 - 1400 ish is rrp for many third party 3080tis.

That's why you can buy plenty right now. They're mediocre value compared to the much rarer stuff.

[FourWheelDrift]

Scan had the EVGA FTW3 3080 Ti for sale for £1399 recently, went very quickly.



I suspect they would have Zotac Trinity, PNY, MSI Ventus and Gigabyte Gaming & Eagle cards for less than that.

[scottyp123]

bloomen said:

I think 1300 - 1400 ish is rrp for many third party 3080tis.

That's why you can buy plenty right now. They're mediocre value compared to the much rarer stuff.

A couple of people have said they're not worth it but a 3080 is only slightly less and is slower but a 3090 is about £2000 and not that much better from what I can see. The 3080ti looks the pick of the bunch to me.

[bloomen]

It's the 3080 fe that's miles ahead of anything else for grunt for the value.

That skews everyone's perception of all the other offerings.

If they were available I wouldn't consider anything else. Since they're not I'm not considering anything of this generation at all.

[scottyp123]

I don't even know what a founder edition is to be honest, I did think it was a card produced by the actual chip manufacturer and not someone like Pallitt or Zotac. I also remember reading a while ago about FE cards being noisy and hot compared to other makes because they all had a single fan, it was the one to stay away from from what I recall.

[HM-2]

scottyp123 said:

bloomen said:

I think 1300 - 1400 ish is rrp for many third party 3080tis.

That's why you can buy plenty right now. They're mediocre value compared to the much rarer stuff.

A couple of people have said they're not worth it but a 3080 is only slightly less and is slower but a 3090 is about £2000 and not that much better from what I can see. The 3080ti looks the pick of the bunch to me.

For gaming use, the 3080ti is 99% as good as the 3090. It's also pick of the bunch for me, I've had one in my basket at couple of times but upgrading processor and motherboard took priority. I'm a bit picky as I want a big chonky non reference board as the tiny reference ones are going to look silly water blocked in my huge O11D XL.

[scottyp123]

HM-2 said:

scottyp123 said:

bloomen said:

I think 1300 - 1400 ish is rrp for many third party 3080tis.

That's why you can buy plenty right now. They're mediocre value compared to the much rarer stuff.

A couple of people have said they're not worth it but a 3080 is only slightly less and is slower but a 3090 is about £2000 and not that much better from what I can see. The 3080ti looks the pick of the bunch to me.

For gaming use, the 3080ti is 99% as good as the 3090. It's also pick of the bunch for me, I've had one in my basket at couple of times but upgrading processor and motherboard took priority. I'm a bit picky as I want a big chonky non reference board as the tiny reference ones are going to look silly water blocked in my huge O11D XL.

I've kind of got the same issue, I've got an i7 8700k and its clocked to 4.9 and seems to be ok with that. I know the new card won't fit in my case but I was just going to hack the case for now, I run it with all the covers off anyway. If I buy a new case then I might as well buy a new motherboard and if I buy a new one of them then it will need a new processor. So a £1300 card turns into a new £2000+ machine.

[FourWheelDrift]

scottyp123 said:

I don't even know what a founder edition is to be honest, I did think it was a card produced by the actual chip manufacturer and not someone like Pallitt or Zotac. I also remember reading a while ago about FE cards being noisy and hot compared to other makes because they all had a single fan, it was the one to stay away from from what I recall.

Nope, they all have two fans, either both bottom blowing up (3060 ti, 3070) or split one top one bottom like the 3070ti 3080 3080ti and 3090.

The ones here at the top out of stock are the founders edition cards - https://shop.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/?page=...

RTX 3080 comparison, just 2 degree hotter than an MSI Gaming X Trio and better than the Zotac Trinity in gaming. Lowest power consumption and not the loudest either.



(click a few times to get big or save it and view for largest image)

[Stevil]

scottyp123 said:

I don't even know what a founder edition is to be honest, I did think it was a card produced by the actual chip manufacturer and not someone like Pallitt or Zotac. I also remember reading a while ago about FE cards being noisy and hot compared to other makes because they all had a single fan, it was the one to stay away from from what I recall.

Maybe in the past, but not this time around, the founders edition cards are beautifully made and really quiet. Throw in the fact that they are the cheapest ones available too and it's hard to see why if you can get hold of one why you'd buy anything else. Big if there obviously.

[scottyp123]

Stevil said:

scottyp123 said:

I don't even know what a founder edition is to be honest, I did think it was a card produced by the actual chip manufacturer and not someone like Pallitt or Zotac. I also remember reading a while ago about FE cards being noisy and hot compared to other makes because they all had a single fan, it was the one to stay away from from what I recall.

Maybe in the past, but not this time around, the founders edition cards are beautifully made and really quiet. Throw in the fact that they are the cheapest ones available too and it's hard to see why if you can get hold of one why you'd buy anything else. Big if there obviously.

Yes to reply to the quote above I meant the earlier series where the FE cards were the worst of the lot.

So looking at the Nvidia site linked to a 3080ti founders card is £1040 RRP but you can get a Zotac one for £1329 on Amazon, its hardly a vast difference in price in the grand scheme of things.

[Stevil]

scottyp123 said:

Yes to reply to the quote above I meant the earlier series where the FE cards were the worst of the lot.

So looking at the Nvidia site linked to a 3080ti founders card is £1040 RRP but you can get a Zotac one for £1329 on Amazon, its hardly a vast difference in price in the grand scheme of things.

No you're right, but then since the 3090 FE is £1399 and is increasingly available I don't know why you'd go for the Zotac 3080ti instead. I had a Zotac 3090 early on and it sounded like a jumbo jet taking off, luckily bagged a 3090 FE just before Christmas and offloaded the Zotac for what I paid initially and couldn't be happier with it.

[scottyp123]

I cant find a 3090 anywhere though under £1800 and I've been looking for weeks. There is also a gigabyte card on amazon for £1299

Scratch the above, I've dillied and dallied for far too long now so have just purchased this, it should be here tomorrow.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B096KVBBHQ/ref...

My 1080ti is pallitt and its been rock solid at max overclocking since I've had it.

[HRL]

scottyp123 said:

I cant find a 3090 anywhere though under £1800 and I've been looking for weeks. There is also a gigabyte card on amazon for £1299

Scratch the above, I've dillied and dallied for far too long now so have just purchased this, it should be here tomorrow.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B096KVBBHQ/ref...

My 1080ti is pallitt and its been rock solid at max overclocking since I've had it.

That’s unfortunate timing. The 3090FE was in stock for hours on Friday @ £1399.

Had mine since last year and generally it’s whisper quiet.

[scottyp123]

HRL said:

scottyp123 said:

I cant find a 3090 anywhere though under £1800 and I've been looking for weeks. There is also a gigabyte card on amazon for £1299

Scratch the above, I've dillied and dallied for far too long now so have just purchased this, it should be here tomorrow.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B096KVBBHQ/ref...

My 1080ti is pallitt and its been rock solid at max overclocking since I've had it.

That’s unfortunate timing. The 3090FE was in stock for hours on Friday @ £1399.

Had mine since last year and generally it’s whisper quiet.

Where though, who stocks the FE cards, is it only Nvidia? Cant say I've ever looked on their site before someone posted the link earlier. you would think you get PC components from PC specialists like SCAN or Overclockers. I had to drive all the way to stoke to secure my 1080 card a couple of years ago.

[HRL]

scottyp123 said:

Where though, who stocks the FE cards, is it only Nvidia? Cant say I've ever looked on their site before someone posted the link earlier. you would think you get PC components from PC specialists like SCAN or Overclockers. I had to drive all the way to stoke to secure my 1080 card a couple of years ago.

Scan are the only Nvidia FE supplier in the U.K. Drops are usually once every couple of weeks but the more expensive cards tend to hang around for a bit now.

[Lucas Ayde]

scottyp123 said:

I don't even know what a founder edition is to be honest, I did think it was a card produced by the actual chip manufacturer and not someone like Pallitt or Zotac. I also remember reading a while ago about FE cards being noisy and hot compared to other makes because they all had a single fan, it was the one to stay away from from what I recall.

The Founders Edition cards are made by NVidia themselves. They are sold to the public through a single distributor per country, in the UK's case this is Scan. There are restrictions in that there is one FE card per customer - ever - and they do extra checks aimed at stopping scalpers which have lead to people's purchases being rejected.

It used to be that the FE cards were a little bit more expensive than the rest and made in only a limited run. However, with the craziness of this generation it appears that NVidia have decided to keep making them in order to provide a source of cards priced at RRP. The FE card variants are 3060Ti, 3070, 3070Ti, 3080Ti and 3090 - there is no 3060FE. The actual quality of the cards is really good - very good aesthetics, very solid construction, good cooler design .. IMO they are generally a better package than the third party cards except for those who want to do extreme overclocking.

However, there's no way that NVidia can make enough of them to meet demand so you get batches turning up 'at random' about once per month per card. Sometimes you get a drop of 2 or 3 different FE cards on the same day.

Demand for 3080 and lower is super-high and the cards tend to go in minutes. The more expensive 3080Ti and 3090 variants will stick around for sale a bit longer but still will be gone within an hour or two.

The only way you are going to get one is to either write something to monitor Nvidia's site directly (NVidea will put a link up which sends you to Scan when the cards are in stock) or find an alert service that tells you. Partalert is the best one I have found - it's how I got my 3070FE. They have twitter and telegram but telegram tends to be a couple of minutes quicker which makes all the difference. They also have a discord but got so overloaded that they stopped new members a while back. Not sure if that is still in effect.