Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

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anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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11700k or 5600X/5800X. Wouldn’t OC the 3080 Ti until you have a new CPU as it won’t help!

scottyp123

3,881 posts

56 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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I know the 11 series is much later than mine but the clock speeds looks pretty much identical, what does it do better that mine wont? Not that I don't think it will. Also another quick question if you don't mind, at the minute my case is a micro ATX i think (the middle size one) and everything is pretty cramped up, if I go back to full size ATX will it help with temps etc, I run it with the covers off anyway.

scottyp123

3,881 posts

56 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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I have read that the AMD boards have trouble with VR headsets connecting properly and they have needed to power them from a USB hub instead. Here is one such thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/jvd61a/...

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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scottyp123 said:
I have read that the AMD boards have trouble with VR headsets connecting properly and they have needed to power them from a USB hub instead. Here is one such thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/jvd61a/...
These issues should be resolved now with a AGESA (BIOS) update that came out about 6 months ago. I don't use it much but my VR headset (Rift S) works fine with a Crosshair VIII Hero.

thatsprettyshady

1,824 posts

165 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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scottyp123 said:
I have read that the AMD boards have trouble with VR headsets connecting properly and they have needed to power them from a USB hub instead. Here is one such thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/jvd61a/...
I had the same issue with sim racing wheel/pedals being strange when on my AMD, but the BIOS update fixed these 100%.

oh and to add to the processor discussion, my AMD 5600x running at 4.6ghz is a noticeable performance increase over my 5.0ghz Intel 9700k even with fewer cores so I would imagine the increase over a 8700k will be even larger.

DMN

2,983 posts

139 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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scottyp123 said:
I have read that the AMD boards have trouble with VR headsets connecting properly and they have needed to power them from a USB hub instead. Here is one such thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HPReverb/comments/jvd61a/...
Only really effects the Reverb G2 and as said above a BIOS update should fix it. HP have also now released an updated power cable for the headset which also fixes the problem.

I've had no issues running mine off of my MOBO, but I have a powered USB 3.0 PCI card which I run mouse, keyboard and sound off of. So that helps keep the bandwidth free for the headset. I also updated the BIOS with the fix as well, just to be safe.

I had no problem running a Rift S without the PCI board.

Edited by DMN on Thursday 9th September 10:20

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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anonymous said:
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I'm on 3402. I don't have any issues so I'm not sure if I'll update. The release notes are useless for understanding what these new versions actually do

FourWheelDrift

88,513 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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With Asus I can tell you what the very latest BIOS does, it's an update that turns on all the BIOS settings that Windows 11 demanded, like TPM 2.0 and secure boot if not already turned on by the user (default is off).

mmm-five

11,239 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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anonymous said:
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I've only recently put 4021 on my Asus ROG Strix X570-F motherboard...to try out the resizable BAR function with the 3080Ti...it has been on it's beta BIOS 2812 since I got it in December.

Seems to work fine, and I've seemed to have got a few FPS extra in Far Cry 5 and AC Valhalla, and a little boost in FireStrike benchmark.


scottyp123

3,881 posts

56 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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Without derailing the thread too much, do these look ok. I'm going ATX this time and will get a new case.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08TX5KL5T/ref...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08VH6RM1N/ref...

fair bit cheaper than scan for the same models as well. Will the h50i water cooler still be ok for the CPU as well. Thanks.

FourWheelDrift

88,513 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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MSI Z590-A Pro is part of the group test on here, don't worry it's not the one that fails - https://youtu.be/w594enhi0vs?t=301

Calza

1,994 posts

115 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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Any reason you've went i7 over 5800x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-Processor...

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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Calza said:
Any reason you've went i7 over 5800x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-Processor...
Ryzen 5000 series all day over intel at the reasonable price point. I don't think the H50 cooler will cut the mustard though. Maybe with a 5600X but not a 5800X.

I have a 5600X with a tiny Noctua L9a with PBO enabled I get 11600 all core and 1600 single core on Cinebench R23.

5800x are about the same single core and 14000 multi core.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebe...

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebe...



Edited by stevesingo on Thursday 9th September 23:46

scottyp123

3,881 posts

56 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Calza said:
Any reason you've went i7 over 5800x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-Processor...
Is it not a better buy?

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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scottyp123 said:
Calza said:
Any reason you've went i7 over 5800x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-Processor...
Is it not a better buy?

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i...
That website isn’t that reliable.

https://youtu.be/eurLpliLNSI

Conclusion is 5800X is a smidge ahead in games but they are very, very close. So it’s up to you really.

However the conclusion also says 5800X is better because there’s a far better upgrade path and lower power consumption. 11700k doesn’t do anything better than a 5800X.

Edited by F20CN16 on Friday 10th September 07:38

HM-2

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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scottyp123 said:
Calza said:
Any reason you've went i7 over 5800x?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-5800X-Processor...
Is it not a better buy?

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i...
Userbenchmark uses and algorithm that inherently favours Intel. My 5 year old 6900K apparently matches a typical 3800X if it is to be believed.

mmm-five

11,239 posts

284 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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scottyp123 said:
I too was going for an i7 when I started building my PC (i7-10700K at the time) rather than a Ryzen 7 3800X.

However, when I was asking for suggestions to optimise my build, everyone on the PC builder's own forum were warning me to stay away from Intel...so I did my own research (thanks to YouTube, LinusTechTips, Hardware Unboxed, et al)...and ended up with the just released 5600X (which was as capable as the older 3800X). I eventually went to the 5800X as the 5600X was not available for the deadline I'd set. I even suggested going to the 11th gen instead, but the feedback/reviews said that it was no better than the 10th gen and Intel were basically just incrementing their numbering to appear that they were keeping up.

https://youtu.be/eurLpliLNSI

In 1440p gaming tests...at worst, the 5800X was 4% worse than the 11700K. At best, the 5800X was 22% faster than the 11700k.



This is also whilst using about 50% less power than the i7-11700K for the same tasks. Of course, the i7 may allow more overclocking than the Ryzen, but the auto-boosting of the 5800X I have sorts that out for me mostly.



...even at idle, the intel is a hungry beast...




TLDR
Ignore any power/performance claims Intel make, they're just conniving marketing experts.

Edited by mmm-five on Friday 10th September 12:33

captain_cynic

11,998 posts

95 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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The only reason I'd go Intel is if I were building a VMware home lab. For some reason ESXI and Ryzen don't get along.

My gaming boxen is a Ryzen 5 5600x and RTX 3070. I'm a big believer in getting 80% of the performance for around 50-60% of the price.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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mmm-five said:
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Good post. Just one thing to add. 11700k doesn’t have much overclocking headroom. It’s clocked so high from the factory which explains the power usage at stock. It’s intels answer to getting caught napping by AMD biggrin

130R

6,810 posts

206 months

Saturday 11th September 2021
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anonymous said:
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Well after saying I had no problems I upgraded to 3801 anyway laugh

No disasters so far. Memory running at 3600MHz cl16 ok again, Resize BAR enabled again. Just over 7100 in Cinebench R20 with all stock CPU settings which is where it should be (3900XT).

One weird thing is that the q-code changes to 9E (instead of the usual AA) when you have TPM enabled in the BIOS (which is now the default to support windows 11).