Nvidia 3000 Series Tonight

[mikef]

I have one on eBay right now (no link, mods) and the bidding has gone past 600 with 2 days to g. I paid less than 700 a year ago

[FourWheelDrift]

Still depends on model and time of auction end for auction items, but people still trying to get over £1000 for a 3070 are mental.

[mikef]

I started my Gigabyte Aorus Master 3070 auction at 200, so the price is driven by bidders. I would agree that asking a grand is taking the mick - there is good availability from UK vendors for much less. I do hope that scalpers are getting stung...

[B_Tank88]

FourWheelDrift said:

It's official, you will need to have your head examined before buying an RTX 3090 Ti.

https://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-3090-ti-retail-conf...

Asus ROG Strix 3090 Ti - €4,577 (£3,829)
Asus Tuf Gaming 3090 Ti - €4,332 (£3,624)

That's crazy. It's genuinely fairly easy to get a 3090 now. The scan drop a couple weeks ago for 3090 they stayed in stock for hours.

On the other hand, I finally got a 3060ti FE at RRP from the last Scan drop! Mission accomplished!

[captain_cynic]

FourWheelDrift said:

And if anyone is still looking for a decent card but don't want to buy new at current prices or turn away at the high prices of low end new "budget" cards, the best value per FPS GPU the GTX 1080 has dropped below £300 2nd hand on Ebay (they were averaging £350-360 late last year.

Recent sold working cards
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 OC - £285
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X - £290
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW2 - £275
GTX 1080 Founders Edition - £260
Palit GameRock Nvidia GTX 1080 - £290

That's crazy. Though at the start of the year I unloaded a 1660 for £200 and a 970 for £70.

A friend of mine was given a box of 1050s by a miner recently. They just aren't making money off the low end cards any more.

[FourWheelDrift]

Scan have some 3080 12GB and 10GB models in stock from £995 - https://www.scan.co.uk/shop/computer-hardware/gpu-...

[halo34]

My current 3080 is on scan for £1200 new (I have fitted a OEM water cooler so its hybrid mind you) so glad I got it as part of a pre build.

[robbiekhan]

Still can't believe I managed to get a Founders 3080 Ti before Xmas at MSRP from Scan. My build and year was complete at that point

Should be me sorted for several years, sold the RTX 2070 Super for £465 so made a chunk of money back too.



Have to say though Gigabyte BIOS updates are a shambles. Rolled back to the December version as the latest is too unstable, also auto voltages for VCCSA and DDR are just whacked, manually set for stable performance in games and Windows but all solid now that it has been faffed with.

[robbiekhan]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Nope it's the new Z690 Gaming X DDR4, I upgraded my system build from a 6700K to 12700KF back in November. It's completely stable and brilliant now, but took a while of faffing with BIOS settings and things to get to that state.

[FourWheelDrift]

RTX 4000 expected in September, flagship GPU rumoured to be 800+W TDP.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-ada-lov...

1000+W PSUs to become the new scalpers favourite.

[Lucas Ayde]

FourWheelDrift said:

RTX 4000 expected in September, flagship GPU rumoured to be 800+W TDP.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-ada-lov...

1000+W PSUs to become the new scalpers favourite.

No thanks. I'm just not about to go purchase a GPU that requires many hundreds of watts of power. Don't want to waste electricity and have to deal with extracting all that heat from my case, uprating my cooling or even my entire case. Not to mention spending on upgrading my PSU (I have a 750W at the moment).

I'm pretty sure NVidia are sensitive to power consumption concerns too as I'm in their 'Geforce Advisory Panel' which is basically a fancy name for a group of people that they regularly send surveys to. The last one had a question about what puts you off buying a GPU which included an option for power consumption.

Given the soaring price of energy plus the likelihood of massive scalping pushing up the price of their next gen of cards, they are going to have to offer sensible (< 300W) options if they want to sell to regular consumers (or even for regular consumers to be able to afford the new GPU proposition). I'm sure some crypto miners might be willing to put up with crazy power consumption if the performance justified it though so they probably could sell a high end beast card like that if the crypto market stays the same as current.

[bloomen]

I seem to recall some states in the US prohibit certain gaming PC sales because of their power consumption. This ain't going to make them too impressed.

I get that this is top end but it's becoming a bit daffy. For that sort of outlay I'd want 8k VR at 120 fps. Which this won't do. So I won't lay out for it.

[Sporky]

bloomen said:

For that sort of outlay I'd want 8k VR at 120 fps. Which this won't do.

It might in the launch event...

[Dave Hedgehog]

bloomen said:

I seem to recall some states in the US prohibit certain gaming PC sales because of their power consumption. This ain't going to make them too impressed.

I get that this is top end but it's becoming a bit daffy. For that sort of outlay I'd want 8k VR at 120 fps. Which this won't do. So I won't lay out for it.

its only for 'production' units, pick n mix / boutique / custom spec systems are exempt

[Dave Hedgehog]

HRL said:

FourWheelDrift said:

It's official, you will need to have your head examined before buying an RTX 3090 Ti.

https://www.eteknix.com/nvidia-3090-ti-retail-conf...

Asus ROG Strix 3090 Ti - €4,577 (£3,829)
Asus Tuf Gaming 3090 Ti - €4,332 (£3,624)

Indeed. A 2% performance increase over my 3090FE that cost £1400, and I considered that too much.

doubly so with the RTX 40xx series coming in September with an apparent big performance hike and power savings due to the smaller die

[Ouroboros]

needed a graphics card just got a 3050 for 269, not best value but wanted something new and cheap.

Cancelled ;(

Edited by Ouroboros on Friday 25th February 22:52

[Lucas Ayde]

Dave Hedgehog said:

doubly so with the RTX 40xx series coming in September with an apparent big performance hike and power savings due to the smaller die

Expecting the next gen of Nvidia cards to be more available or priced more closely to a sensible RRP than the current one is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

The RTX30xx series has never been freely available or priced remotely close to the RRP since launch day. (The only reason I have one now is thanks to their policy of making small amounts of FE cards available under strict selling conditions, and putting in much effort to get one during the absurdly short release windows of new batches).

The RTX40xx situation will almost certainly be worse, especially in view of the generalised inflation that is happening and the fact that buyers have more or less accepted that RRPs have basically become meaningless for GPUs.

[Mr Whippy]

Lucas Ayde said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

doubly so with the RTX 40xx series coming in September with an apparent big performance hike and power savings due to the smaller die

Expecting the next gen of Nvidia cards to be more available or priced more closely to a sensible RRP than the current one is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

The RTX30xx series has never been freely available or priced remotely close to the RRP since launch day. (The only reason I have one now is thanks to their policy of making small amounts of FE cards available under strict selling conditions, and putting in much effort to get one during the absurdly short release windows of new batches).

The RTX40xx situation will almost certainly be worse, especially in view of the generalised inflation that is happening and the fact that buyers have more or less accepted that RRPs have basically become meaningless for GPUs.

Supply and demand sent them up.

Supply and demand will bring them down.

Back in the late 90s and early 00s it was always some earthquake in Asia that saw RAM prices go up, but they came down again.

HDD, SSD, GPU, CPU, blah blah blah… computers depreciate like bricks. Always have.

But suddenly GPUs are a new case, and human behaviour has forever changed when buying a GPU?

Mmmkaay.

[bloomen]

Mr Whippy said:

But suddenly GPUs are a new case, and human behaviour has forever changed when buying a GPU?

Premiums won't last. RRPs certainly will and they're pretty darned beefy compared to previous generations.

Many people will be driven to consoles or game streaming when that picks up. GPUs might become rather more niche in future so they'd better make hay while the sun shines.

[FourWheelDrift]

The leaked info on RTX 4000 - https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-40-ada-lov...