Windows 10 to be retired in 2025
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Well, so much for all that money spent on hardware & software upgrades!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57443598?at_...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57443598?at_...
Windows 11 or Windows Sun Valley are the possible names.
New name(s) same old bloat and spyware, and the good old updates and fixes every few days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMHgM_hTzlw&t=...
Beginning to look a lot like Linux
New name(s) same old bloat and spyware, and the good old updates and fixes every few days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMHgM_hTzlw&t=...
Beginning to look a lot like Linux
That it might be, my Win10 laptop did a load of updates and deleted or reset the power settings so it ends up sleeping and you can't bring it out of sleep forcing a reboot.
It is this sort of behaviour that a) pisses me off and causes problems b) haven't had this with
Apple so it less about the actual OS but the peripheral issues causing user problems and annoyance.
It is this sort of behaviour that a) pisses me off and causes problems b) haven't had this with
Apple so it less about the actual OS but the peripheral issues causing user problems and annoyance.
anonymous said:
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Win 10 may be the best OS MS has ever put out, but Mac OS is still ahead in terms of stability and usability. My Win 10 work laptop will crash / freeze / have applications stop responding several times a week. Finding settings takes ages (but I’m more of a Mac user). By contrast, my Macs just work, faultlessly, all the time.And I still dread Windows Patch Days!
gottans said:
That it might be, my Win10 laptop did a load of updates and deleted or reset the power settings so it ends up sleeping and you can't bring it out of sleep forcing a reboot.
It is this sort of behaviour that a) pisses me off and causes problems b) haven't had this with
Apple so it less about the actual OS but the peripheral issues causing user problems and annoyance.
The Windows vs Apple argument is a bit unfair though.It is this sort of behaviour that a) pisses me off and causes problems b) haven't had this with
Apple so it less about the actual OS but the peripheral issues causing user problems and annoyance.
Apple control all the hardware their OS runs on, Microsoft doesn't, that is usually where a lot of issues come from, both with reliability, constant updates, sudden incompatibilities etc.
Some of the bloatware is down to that also.
I have used Widows computers for over 20 years and windows 10 is most definetly the best version i get very little trouble with it
The occasional update will slow things down a bit but seems to be quickly resloved.
Having said that i have a had a couple of cheaper laptops running win 10 and found them slow and unreliable
Personally i think many problems people may encounter with win 10 may be down to cheap budget laptops
A good desktop computer or higher end laptop will have no problem running win 10
The occasional update will slow things down a bit but seems to be quickly resloved.
Having said that i have a had a couple of cheaper laptops running win 10 and found them slow and unreliable
Personally i think many problems people may encounter with win 10 may be down to cheap budget laptops
A good desktop computer or higher end laptop will have no problem running win 10
FourWheelDrift said:
nickv said:
Personally i think many problems people may encounter with win 10 may be down to cheap budget laptops
Packed full of pre-installed bloatware that is never updated and runs into problems with Windows updates.Windows 10 is great, Windows 11 will also be great I'm sure.
What I don't understand is that there will be a huge outcry about changes to the Start Menu. It's like the last 0.00000001% of the work, why don't they just let the user choose from 10 options for how they ask for a program to open. Everything else is pretty much unobtrusive and uncontroversial.
I really like the fullscreen start menu that's there now, I like that I can build a list of programs, folders, files that I use a lot and leave the rest to rot in the full list until I need it. I'd like to be able to scroll down and have it show me recent documents, all apps that sort of thing, but it's no big deal.
I'd also like to be able to create start groups, so I can sit down to do a particular task, click one button and have it open a series of apps and files on a new Virtual Desktop. I'd like to be able to force apps to open with bespoke Virtual Desktop settings, so they always go on a particualr desktop, or can show on all desktops etc.
But really I'm not that bothered and just here for the Start Menu Wars.
What I don't understand is that there will be a huge outcry about changes to the Start Menu. It's like the last 0.00000001% of the work, why don't they just let the user choose from 10 options for how they ask for a program to open. Everything else is pretty much unobtrusive and uncontroversial.
I really like the fullscreen start menu that's there now, I like that I can build a list of programs, folders, files that I use a lot and leave the rest to rot in the full list until I need it. I'd like to be able to scroll down and have it show me recent documents, all apps that sort of thing, but it's no big deal.
I'd also like to be able to create start groups, so I can sit down to do a particular task, click one button and have it open a series of apps and files on a new Virtual Desktop. I'd like to be able to force apps to open with bespoke Virtual Desktop settings, so they always go on a particualr desktop, or can show on all desktops etc.
But really I'm not that bothered and just here for the Start Menu Wars.
gottans said:
I'd still rather use a Mac, my Win10 work laptop is a right PITA.
As I opened this thread I wondered how long it would before somebody would mention they use a Mac... Post #2.I had to use XP & 8 for work and now have to use Windows 10 for work, which consists of opening a few websites and a load of bespoke software.. it does that fine.
My home machines are Dell XPS Ubuntu and a LG Chromebase which has been converted to Elementary OS.
Windows 10 will be stable on a decent machine with the right drivers and bloatware removed. Stripped so much rubbish off the missus Win 10 machine when I got with her. Works so much better now.
AJB88 said:
gottans said:
I'd still rather use a Mac, my Win10 work laptop is a right PITA.
As I opened this thread I wondered how long it would before somebody would mention they use a Mac... Post #2.I had to use XP & 8 for work and now have to use Windows 10 for work, which consists of opening a few websites and a load of bespoke software.. it does that fine.
My home machines are Dell XPS Ubuntu and a LG Chromebase which has been converted to Elementary OS.
Windows 10 will be stable on a decent machine with the right drivers and bloatware removed. Stripped so much rubbish off the missus Win 10 machine when I got with her. Works so much better now.
Evolved said:
It should be no surprise that people draw the comparison as it is the only real viable alternative. Groaning aside, Apple have got the whole package nailed down so tight that it is just a better platform to buy into, if the user isn’t a tech savvy computer geek, and even if so, the UX is just better thought out.
Do agree, I had a 2010 MBP for about a year that I got cheap, I switched in 8GB RAM and a SSD and it worked well, sold it for the same price I paid as it was no longer getting OS updates. I did miss the tinkering of the Linux terminal though so switched back once I sold the MBP. Right now unless the user needs specific software, ChromeOS is probably the best platform for most users especially older, I've got my sister and mum on ChromeOS now just as they cant break much.
Magnum 475 said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Win 10 may be the best OS MS has ever put out, but Mac OS is still ahead in terms of stability and usability. My Win 10 work laptop will crash / freeze / have applications stop responding several times a week. Finding settings takes ages (but I’m more of a Mac user). By contrast, my Macs just work, faultlessly, all the time.And I still dread Windows Patch Days!
How hard is it to preserve a few WINDOWS settings before an update? It isn't but MS just don't give a s
t about users.New version of Windows is just same s
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