EE to reintroduce roaming charges across Europe

EE to reintroduce roaming charges across Europe

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megaphone

10,719 posts

251 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Remember, free roaming in Europe only came in because of EU laws, the telcos resisted it for years. The UK government could introduce their own laws if they want, and may well do so if the telcos take the piss.

And the European roaming zone isn't just EU, it includes non eu countries like Norway, not sure why UK can't be part of it, other than greed.

Customers can take their UK allowances to
Austria, Azores, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Canary Islands, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, French Guyana, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guadeloupe, Guernsey, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Isle of Man, Italy, Jersey, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madeira, Malta, Martinique, Mayotte, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Reunion Islands, Romania, San Marino, Saint Martin (French), Saint Barthelemy, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Vatican City (Italy)


Edited by megaphone on Thursday 24th June 17:48

Driver101

14,376 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Bad move by EE. If the other operators don't do the same then they are going to lose customers. My money is on they'll all do the same.

We were told before Brexit that this wouldn't happen. Now it has. Great.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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megaphone said:
Remember, free roaming in Europe only came in because of EU laws, the telcos resisted it for years. The UK government could introduce their own laws if they want, and may well do so if the telcos take the piss.

And the European roaming zone isn't just EU, it includes non eu countries like Norway, not sure why UK can't be part of it, other than greed.

Customers can take their UK allowances to
Austria, Azores, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Canary Islands, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, French Guyana, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guadeloupe, Guernsey, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Isle of Man, Italy, Jersey, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Madeira, Malta, Martinique, Mayotte, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Reunion Islands, Romania, San Marino, Saint Martin (French), Saint Barthelemy, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and Vatican City (Italy)


Edited by megaphone on Thursday 24th June 17:48
Three spearheaded the idea (for the UK market, and predating the EU directive) and it goes all the way to Australia

Cellphone pricing has always been smoke and mirrors and a bit scammy though. Be interesting to see how other operator's react, unless incoming calls are essential (most people are just using data these days it seems?) then most people can just grab a local/traveler SIM, like we did before.

tangerine_sedge

4,760 posts

218 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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I assume this has been triggered by the foreign networks charging for roaming access? To be honest, if this is the case, then I'm surprised it's so cheap.

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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tangerine_sedge said:
I assume this has been triggered by the foreign networks charging for roaming access? To be honest, if this is the case, then I'm surprised it's so cheap.
Most networks cover many territories so it's actually the same co most of the time and have reciprocal partnership agreements in place for where they don't.

It really doesn't cost much, telecoms can make out everything's like calling Iran in 1987 but the gigs up. Data's cheap.

joshleb

1,544 posts

144 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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It was nice whilst it lasted being able to go see my parents in Jersey and not have to dish out the old Jersey phone and simcard again.

I'm only on a rolling sim with EE, this is tempting me to look elsewhere. Had a look at their contracted monthly sim packages, so expensive now!

Mr Pointy

11,209 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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untakenname said:
The Three network has had free roaming in most the EU for over a decade now so just get a payg sim when abroad.
Three have also introduced a data cap of 12GB, although at present they aren't also charging a sum per day:
https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/24/o2_reintrod...

Funk

26,266 posts

209 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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DodgyGeezer said:
My understanding was it only affected new customers?
New and upgrading... So unless you stay on the same package forever (terrible value) then they'll get you when you upgrade your phone...

RacerMike

4,198 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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If only we could vote to be in some sort of unified zone that would prevent UK operators doing stuff like this! Imagine how good that would be? Maybe they could also allow British fishermen to sell their fish there due to them being within the same economic and legislatory area too. It would be like a union that was Europe wide.

theboss

6,910 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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RacerMike said:
If only we could vote to be in some sort of unified zone that would prevent UK operators doing stuff like this! Imagine how good that would be? Maybe they could also allow British fishermen to sell their fish there due to them being within the same economic and legislatory area too. It would be like a union that was Europe wide.
We could vote and we did. Get over it.

gaseous clay

12,373 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Funk said:
DodgyGeezer said:
My understanding was it only affected new customers?
New and upgrading... So unless you stay on the same package forever (terrible value) then they'll get you when you upgrade your phone...
Yet another reason why SIM only is the way to go, there's nothing massively cheaper than my SIM only deal at the moment so I'm happy to let it run until such time as there is.

Condi

Original Poster:

17,168 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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gaseous clay said:
Yet another reason why SIM only is the way to go, there's nothing massively cheaper than my SIM only deal at the moment so I'm happy to let it run until such time as there is.
Interesting that it is only for new customers. I'm on some very old contract with EE which has better terms than the new ones, and thanks to some error when it was created, it's quite a cheap contract.

As you were, no panic. hehe

gaseous clay

12,373 posts

237 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Condi said:
gaseous clay said:
Yet another reason why SIM only is the way to go, there's nothing massively cheaper than my SIM only deal at the moment so I'm happy to let it run until such time as there is.
Interesting that it is only for new customers. I'm on some very old contract with EE which has better terms than the new ones, and thanks to some error when it was created, it's quite a cheap contract.

As you were, no panic. hehe
Haha yeah, my missus stayed on Everyday 50 for about 10 years back in the day hehe

I imagine if they changed terms for existing customers they'd be able to cancel?

Teddy Lop

8,294 posts

67 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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gaseous clay said:
Yet another reason why SIM only is the way to go, there's nothing massively cheaper than my SIM only deal at the moment so I'm happy to let it run until such time as there is.
If more people went SIM only + cash handset we'd all have the telecoms on their toes.

But that might make people actually think about whether they need the appldung GTRXi XHD sport XV enough to pay a grand for it.

PF62

3,610 posts

173 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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Condi said:
Suspect that this will not be a very popular move, especially when other operators are (at the moment) not doing the same.
They are!

Vodafone were the first to charge for EU roaming when they introduced their 'Basics' plans last year that don't include EU roaming, and if you wanted EU roaming then you have to sign up for one of the significantly more expensive standard plans.

RacerMike

4,198 posts

211 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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theboss said:
RacerMike said:
If only we could vote to be in some sort of unified zone that would prevent UK operators doing stuff like this! Imagine how good that would be? Maybe they could also allow British fishermen to sell their fish there due to them being within the same economic and legislatory area too. It would be like a union that was Europe wide.
We could vote and we did. Get over it.
Think a whoosh parrot might be needed there. I don’t need to get over anything. I’m with Three. It does bring a degree of satisfaction to say a massive ‘told you so’ to so many leave voters though. It’s about the only positive there is as I’m standing in yet another immigration queue or filling in the details for yet another shipping carnet.

markiii

3,603 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th June 2021
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roaming charges are so small as to be irrelevant in the grand scheme of way to leave though

colin79666

1,816 posts

113 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Not surprised with this move. If you are a regular visitor to the continent you could always get a dual sim phone and run your data through the local sim.

People always praise three, yes they were ahead of the legislation but it wasn’t full eu at first. Three roam at home is mostly where they have a sister network or the law forces it.

At least we aren’t going back to calls costing a pound a minute to receive!

theboss

6,910 posts

219 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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RacerMike said:
theboss said:
RacerMike said:
If only we could vote to be in some sort of unified zone that would prevent UK operators doing stuff like this! Imagine how good that would be? Maybe they could also allow British fishermen to sell their fish there due to them being within the same economic and legislatory area too. It would be like a union that was Europe wide.
We could vote and we did. Get over it.
Think a whoosh parrot might be needed there. I don’t need to get over anything. I’m with Three. It does bring a degree of satisfaction to say a massive ‘told you so’ to so many leave voters though. It’s about the only positive there is as I’m standing in yet another immigration queue or filling in the details for yet another shipping carnet.
I suspect most leave voters couldn't give a toss.

I haven't ever considered using EE because their roaming charges were ridiculous. So I guess I won't be switching my business to them any time soon.

Magnum 475

3,529 posts

132 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Driver101 said:
Bad move by EE. If the other operators don't do the same then they are going to lose customers. My money is on they'll all do the same.

We were told before Brexit that this wouldn't happen. Now it has. Great.
And those who said it were accused of being "Project Fear". Welcome to "Project Reality".